Christian Convert is Threatened By Her Muslim Parents - Comments

poor girl

[b]MCRJunkiie[/b] really? Here I am thinking that I knew better because most of my family is Muslim.
Any religion (though especially in the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam) that refers to one, omnipotent God can be said to worship the same god as any other.

Actually they do.

Jews and Christians worship the same God, however Muslims do not.

wow. people these days.

idk im not muslim..and I donnt study the religin so Im not quite qalified for my openion.. but eather way someone should be ashamed who ever is lying that is

okay, well clearly there's someone in this story that is lying.....no way a father would kill his own daughter......especially any MUSLIM.

Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God, but they interpret His words differently. It's so sad when you hear of things like this.

*Shakes head*
people wonder why I think religion is evil...

*agreeing with Spanx* (if I misspelled your name, I'm sorry)
honor killing does only have something to do with one's culture, not the religion.

Also, just another thought, since most of what I wanted to write down has already been mentioned, Arabic, Syriac (the language that Jesus spoke in his time), and Hebrew all have the same roots in their name for God, "Allah", "Alaha", and "Eloh" ("Islam" Hesham A. Hassaballa and Kabir Helminski)
So, the idea of monotheism being shared by these three religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) and each being similar to each other in many ways, is it so bad for people to convert from one to another? I understand that there's a lot of differences between each of them, but couldn't we live by our similarities instead of our differences?

I agree with Mystical Madness.
I am a Muslim myself. And honor killing has something to do with your culture. It doesn't mean that every Muslim family will react like that. I haven't seen or heard something like that in where i live. But yes, it depends on the place you live and the traditions of the place.
And I don't think her converting to Christanity is a really big deal. Things like that happen. And i respect her choice. But also find it unnecessary.

This is quite an interesting story. One might want to believe she is lying and might be seeking attention. Some might also think, "Oh, she is only 17, she doesn't fully understand." Personally, religion is a very high matter. It is the choice to believe in something. If she just wanted attention, wouldn't she try doing something lower and about something that isn't so big?


I would most certainly hope it is because she REALLY does believe in the Christian faith and not some kind of scandal just to tick off her parents. Yes, it was stupid to post stuff on facebook but, maybe her parents don't use the site and she needed a way to talk to other people about her thoughts? I know thats how I use it sometimes. I mean, just because she is a teenager doesn't mean she is stupid and can't understand a religion. Just because she is 17 doesn't mean she just looking for attention.

Most of us would know that I am sure. Yes, there are the sobby attention lookers who lie about stupid crap but, I don't think someone would go far enough to make others believe she coverted just to grab some attention.

I also agree with [b]Rosalia[/b] a bit. Yes, she should have a counsler of a sort. It would help her talk this all out and know what she is doing. And she should be kept from her parents, seeing how they have threatened to kill her. She should also be kept away from the pastor and his wife as well. This is only because she only met him on facebook. She doesn't know him perfectly well so it might just put her into more danger.

Also, I have heard of muslims converting to christian at a young age and it may be that they are confused about their faith or decisions but, I also think that if you are intelligent enough to want to believe in something other than what you were brought up to believe in, then you do have a right to believe in what you want. I do think she is old enough to make that decision. I mean, seriously, who wants to be told what to think even at age 17? or how about age 15? or 13? Yes, they should know right from wrong but, a decision that has to do with something like religion, they have a right to believe in what they want. EVERYONE should be respected for their choices, even if they are thought to be too young to understand. Us teenagers can be smarter than we seem to be sometimes....

I fully agree with [b]paper heart[/b].

I just wanna add that just because her parents reacted that way, doesn't mean that's how the entire Muslim population reacts. They're her parents, they want what's best for her. And, for her to blow off a faith they brought her up with since day 1, could really hurt a parent.

Think about it, if your son or daughter wanted to convert, or wanted to become religious, some of you (not all of you) will have different reactions, and/or feel the same way.

What I just said does NOT apply to everyone.

I think it's funny that someone down there said something about it being against Muslim religion to convert. When you convert, you are no longer held to the obligations of that religion, and are therefore exempt from them.

Honor Killings are real, but they usually don't pertain to religion. Perhaps that's because all those who seriously believe in the Islamic religion still live in the Middle East where it's legal to do so and wouldn't convert for fear of death. So, you know, America doesn't hear about it and really shouldn't care because it has nothing to do with their country.

Oh, and uh, thought you should know something, author person. "Allah" isn't the "Muslim God." It's the Muslim word [i]for[/i] God.

btw Id like to add, it is possible some people do practise honour killings
I wont deny if people have lost thier lives.
All Im saying is that it is not anywhere in the religion of Islam.
Yes there may be those saying they are Muslim and carrying out these killings.
Thats their personality and what they've been taught of the religion, by someone else who may have twisted it due to extremist ways.
If you read the Quran fully you will see that it is a sin to pass judgement and kill another human being.
Ergo these killings are not an act of Islam.
Just thought I'd clear that up.

missand I wouldnt assume things about a religion you dont know about.
its offensive and rather daft.

"Anyone who, after accepting Faith in Allah, utters Unbelief - except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in faith - but such as open their breatss ot unbelief - on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful penalty."
(Quran, 16:106)

someone quoted that above and Id like to clarify it rly.
This is completly correct, however note, it says the disbeliever will feel the wrath of God.
Not the wrath of humans.
Many time sit is written that we humans have no place to judge each other, and to try and place a judgement about someone in a matter that doesnt concern humans eg a human and thier faith in God, is wrong.
Sure if its a matter like stealing from another human then yes humans have the right to intervene and judge.
It is stated also that harming any human is against the word of God, unless it is in self defense.
Such as when the media porpogated the idea of Jihad, rather ridiculous rly because jihad is when a fight is launched upon a muslim and they have to retailiate or face being opressed, supressed, killed, lose their family etc. Its self defense.
Note how ppl are quick to forget the Crusades. Buts that a different matter.

Now honour killing, trust me no such thing as that exists in Islam. Idk about othe rreligions but I doubt it, as it suggests killing another human, which is against the word of God.
Yes Muslims believe that a disbeliever ought to be punsihed, the same way a strong Jew or Christian would feel a disbeliever of their faith ought to be punished.
Its natural insticnt if you feel the path you're on is correct and one of your own kin takes a different path.
I know someone will say "oh what about ppl that have converted from Christianity to Islam etc" no offensive in England 5 out of 10 ppl call themselves Christian because their great grandparents were, although they themselves will say they're not sure wether they believe in God etc. So in finding their path they might find a different religion like Buddishm, Islam, Judasim etc suits them better, and they are able to be accepted into it as their parents arent that strong believers in Christianity either. However if the parents were strong believers I do believe the person would face alot of resistance then.

Yes it is quite possible her parents did get angry and may be did threaten her. Who knows?
Yes It is against the religion to convert, as it is in any religion. Yes the religion will say non believers go to hell, what religion wont? But God choses that, nowhere does it say the humans chose it. Infact it doesnt say non believers, it says believers who then stopped believing. Tbh im not sure if this girl can even be classed as that as she may have never believed in it in the first place.
Ofc she can chose what religion she likes, but her parents reaction to it cant be used to represent Islam. Thats daft.
Its like saying terrorism is the face of Islam. Its not. Its people who have taken the complete wrong meaning of the Quran, and twisted it for their own sick gain.
Like The Ira bomings and the Catholic/ Protestant fued in Ireland.
Much the same concept rly.
Tbh tho, she lied and ran away. Enough reason for any parent to get angry. She didnt even have guts to say it to their face. As a parent itd hurt you to think you raised your child on the right path, and they found a different path but whats worse didnt even consider to discuss it with you.
Again thats between the girl and her parents.
There are extremists in every religion this is true.
There are bad people in every religion. This is also true.
However it is wrong to look at thier actions and then sterotype the religion they represent by thier actions.
I notice how nowadays we dont hear any heartwarming stories about any religions anymore, even though every day people preform brave tasks and help others through the help of their strong believe in their religion. Be it Christianity, Islam, Judasim etc.

I have probably missed out a big chunk of what I meant to say, and I hope no one was offended by this comment.
I just feel its high time people stop basing their views of religions from what the media portray.

she's not old enough to make her own decisions so this is a very hard subject. on one hand, as an american (or resident of america) she has a natural born right to believe in what ever religion. BUT, I don't believe she is old enough to understand that. yea she's 17, close enough but I know countless people that believed that you don't really understand the religion you believe in until you are much older.

a therapist is much needed for her in my opinion, not to sway her into something else but to allow her to clear her mind and to keep her away from both the parents and this minister and his wife.

"Bary claims that because she was raised as a Muslim and converted to a Christian, Allah (The Muslim god) commands that she must be killed, and that it is a great honor to do so. Such and honor is called "Honor Killing"."
I believe you're a bit confused there. An honour killing has more relation to fertility and comitting adultery than it has to do with becoming an apostate. Also, honour killings are a more cultural crime than they are religious.
And yes, while it is true that the apostate receives death sentence in Islam, it is also like that in Christianity. Can you imagine her coming from a strict Christian background and becoming an apostate? A lot of comments have been going on the net about Islam being a cult and how it orders for this with punishment by stoning. However, it is biased to single out Islam as the only religion that does this, considering Christianity also orders for the death of an apostate (although the majority of these crimes are perpetrated by misguided Muslims).

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. (Deuteronomy 13:6-9)

Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)

"Anyone who, after accepting Faith in Allah, utters Unbelief - except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in faith - but such as open their breatss ot unbelief - on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful penalty."
(Quran, 16:106)

"O ye who believe! If any from among you turn back from his faith, soon Allah will produce a people whom He will love as they will love Him - lowly will the Believers, Mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the Way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault."
(Quran, 5:54)

I think people calling her an attention seek is a little harsh.

UnFlappaBelle: Being a Cheerleader and being a Converted Christian are two different things; please don't assume it's anyway the same.

Missand: "She's old enough to make her own decisions."
^I agree with you 100%. I wish others felt the way, as well.