The Contradiction Of Abortion - Comments

This journal has to be the most biased, unintelligent thing I have read since I have been on here. You're galavanting about the fact that you think abortion is wrong and everything else but you took a yellow journalism stance about it. Honestly, I am also pro-life but even I understand that some women do not have a choice in the matter of should they get an abortion or not.

For example, a woman who has been sexually assaulted and impregnated as a resulting factor should not have to carry around that reminder for the nine months following afterward. Along with a woman who isn't even able to carry a baby to full term due to health issues, they should have a right to make their own choice on whether to terminate the pregnancy or not.

Getting an abortion isn't flowers and stepping stones for the women who chose to do it like you make it out to be. You act as if those women who have gone through with their pregnancy terminations did it with no remorse and out of pure selfishness. What ever decision that woman makes will be stuck with her for the rest of her life and I highly doubt people use the "clump of cells" excuse to make it easier on themselves. Technically, that's all it is after a one to two month span. It hasn't formed anything that would consider it to even be a person yet.

I do agree with your argument on the NC law. It's one big contradiction.

The only reason people call it a clump of cells is because they don’t want to fact the fact that abortion is wrong.

Well firslty, it does start as a clump of cells, and secondly, it's wrong according to you. So there, I suppose.

But at thirteen weeks and under, it is just a bundle of cells that potentially a baby could emerge from. It is not life, it is potential life. It has no neurological functioning and therefore is not conscious nor can feel pain. Additionally, before thirteen weeks is the highest risk of miscarriage throughout the entire pregnancy.

As for me, could I get an abortion? Well, the only reason I would ever get pregnant is through rape. And Christ on a bike, I would not be able to cope with even the thought of something growing inside me. Pregnancy is such a sickening thought. Even the concept is making my skin crawl. I know if abortions were illegal, I'd find a way to do it myself and frankly from what I know of my own mind, I'd probably just end up topping myself. Solved two problems at once.

Abortion is a very sensitive topic. I'd like to say "to each their own" when it comes to abortion, but it is not that simple. It is the women's choice to abort or not. I personally do not agree with abortion being used as a contraceptive measure, however, if a women is impregnated against her will then it is only up to her to decide the fate of the zygote she is carrying.

Some people do not see a fetus as a human and others do. I think a growing baby is in fact a human and should not be killed. But, it all depends on the circumstance it was created. I am pro-choice, but I lean more towards pro-life.

Dumb pro-lifers wanna push their feelings on society.
waah, here come the moral police. Always here to defend the unborn but when it's actually born- eh, who cares what happens.
If you think a clump of cells is equal to that of a baby then I question your intelligence.
Did you get someone to type this for you?
As the Human Torch always says- FLAME ON!!!!

Airi

I bow down to you. I agree with you 110%.

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And if the woman can't handle carrying the fetus to term? Should she still be forced to do so? Not every woman who is raped can handle the idea of carrying around such a reminder to term. There are a lot of females out there who would sooner kill themselves than be forced to carry their rapist's fetus. Like I said in my last comment, please don't treat abortion so black and white because it is not that simple. Also, think of the woman's mental state. She may not be able to handle carrying that fetus to term. Rape victims have been tortured enough, must we further torture them by forcing them to carry the fetus to term?

I'd also like to point out that sex does not equal consent to pregnancy. On top of that, it takes two to conceive a fetus. Don't pin all the blame on the woman, that's not fair in the least. It's not just the female's responsibility to prevent pregnancy and not just her fault should the precautions fail. I'll also ask you what I asked the author of this journal.... If most abortions are performed before the fetus is viable, before it is capable of life, why is it murder? Murder is the taking of life. How can abortion be murder if it is done before the fetus is viable?

Whoops. I deleted a couple words. I meant: "The woman who killed the mother shouldn't be charged with the murder of the fetus."

I dont agree with abortion, personally. To me, its like putting an innocent person up on death row for a crime they did not commit. Its feels like that. I can appreciate the fact that perhaps the female has gone through rape, but what fault is that of the child, if you get what I mean? The child didn't decide how his mother conceived, or in what circumstances. If the child had a choice, it would not let it happen, so why punish them for the mistakes of others. If living with the burden of having your rapists child is too much, theres always the option of adoption. Theres many who cannot get pregnant, and that child which could have been put down, could be there reason to live again. It's a chance one has to be willing to take.

Second, I just do not understand accidental pregancy's and then abortions. Okay, so condoms break, things happen, I can understand that but why should another life suffer, if you coudn't keep it together. Keep those legs tightly closed, and if you cant then bear the consequences of a child. Do not abort/murder so that your life can be easier. Thats selfish.

Ultimately people have the choice, but to me murder can never be justified. No matter what. Just because its their body, their life, their choice, it doesn't mean they can do anything with it. With that lodgic, anyone can get about doing whatever they like without consequences.

It's in their bodies not ours, so we shouldn't be the ones to make their decisions or actions. I do agree with you and Mary Lewis on the NC law, though.

See but here's the thing, not everyone who is pro-choice agrees with those laws. Perhaps I misinterpreted your journal, but the way you worded it made it sound like you think all pro-choice people agree with such legislation and that is simply not true. There are many pro-choice people, and even pro-life, that disagree with such laws simply because they are contradictory in a very big manner. I will agree though that Ethan's Law is very contradictory, it doesn't make much sense when you really think about it.

On that note, saying a fetus is "ripped out" of the woman is not accurate. That is a very erroneous and misleading description of abortion. Personally, I am pro-choice and don't view abortion as murder. I don't believe in taking a woman's reproductive rights away from her, which is exactly what making abortion illegal will do. A woman should have a choice when it comes to her reproductive rights. No woman should be reduced to being an incubator and forced against her will to carry a fetus to term. If you don't want to have an abortion, then don't have one. But you shouldn't think you have any right or reason to force your choice upon another woman. A woman deserves to have a choice on whether or not to carry a fetus to term. If she doesn't wish to, she shouldn't be forced to. Forcing a woman to carry a fetus to term is reducing women to nothing but human incubators and taking their rights from them. It lowers the dignity of women.

Abortion is not a black and white issue, there are a lot of factors that go into it. What if contraception fails? Should the female be forced to carry the fetus even if she took proper precautions to prevent it? Should a rape victim be forced to carry the fetus to term? If so, why? Why should a rape victim be further tortured by being forced to carry the fetus of the man who violated and tortured her? Not all rape victims seek abortion if they end up pregnant, but those that do deserve the right to have an abortion if they want one. Should a mother who will die from birth be allowed an abortion?

Making abortion illegal also creates a new set of problems. Women won't stop having abortions even if they're illegal. The only difference is desperate enough women will put their life at risk to terminate the pregnancy. They'll resort to "back-alley abortions". They'll get abortions done in non-sterile environments and put themselves at a risk of dying. Making abortion murder and thus illegal creates an entirely new, and worse, set of problems. Would you rather women get abortions in a sterile environment or risk their life in a non-sterile environment?

We also have, what about if the fetus isn't viable? A fetus becomes viable at about 24 weeks I believe it is, meaning it is capable of life at 24 weeks. Before 24 weeks, it isn't capable of life. It cannot survive outside the woman. If it isn't capable of life, why is it murder? Murder if the taking of life but before 24 weeks, there is no life to take. So how can it be murder if the fetus is not viable and thus does not have a life to take? Most abortions are performed before 24 weeks, before the fetus is capable of life.

Abortion isn't as simple as you're making it out to be.

A rape victim should never be forced to keep a child against her will. Not only has that woman then been raped, which I can't even comprehend the emotional damage that must do, but then to force them to keep a child is awful. I could never demand that a rape victim has to go through the physical changes her body will go through and give birth when she doesn't want to.

No mother should ever have her fetus' life value above her own. A bundle of cells that has no awareness shouldn't matter if it means that the mother will die. Furthermore, did you know that a dying (and I'm talking 100%, no way it's going to survive) fetus is still considered an abortion even though an abortion would only spare both the mother and the fetus pain? If I was pregnant I would get an abortion in that circumstance to stop the pain my child would feel for the few moments it was alive and I wouldn't feel bad for a moment.

You are right about one thing though. The NC law is very contradictory. The person who killed the mother shouldn't be charged with murder. This law isn't indicative of the rest of the country. True, in a perfect world there word be no abortions, but it isn't a perfect world and we have to protect women's rights.

It's fine if YOU don't support abortion, but I don't think you ought to make that choice for anyone else.

I'm typically pro-life to an extent. I think it comes with my empathetic nature, and I see moreover of the possibility of what that child could be. However, I think any anti-abortion law should also give concession and rights to women. As contradictory as it sounds, I think the potential child/fetus and the mother need to be thought of in this legislation. However, I think in an idealistic world I would rather the supposed unwanted child to be adopted by a loving family that cannot conceive or in similar situations.

And, not to be rude, but could you cite your source for Roe v. Wade being fake? I really don't believe that at all. It just seems so outlandish.