Normandy's Issue With America's Sweetheart: Taylor Swift - Comments

I have to say, I love Taylor Swift. I think she has a sweet voice. So, let me rephrase - I love her songs. I don't know much about her, though, to be the judge of that.
This made me laugh, too, because based off what I've heard of her, this seems pretty accurate.

@ ladyschrei
She is, I read an interview with her in Vogue a couple of months ago and that's just the kind of character she loves to play. Utter psychos.

@ Queen Obscene
I've seen Charlize in a few movies before, she looked good in SW as well :)

@ ladyschrei
It's actually pretty good. Chris Hemsworth and Charlize Theron manage to carry Kristen Stewart's peformance between them. And it has dwarves, which is always good.

@ Queen Obscene
I never bothered to see it because of all the bad reviews. Though I'll probably watch the second one since I love Hemsworth. Haha!

@ ladyschrei
Really? Then I've been reading misleading articles. Ah well, it's not like there's going to be anything I care about going on in the sequal - I only watched the first one for Charlize Theron anyway.

@ Queen Obscene
She wasn't fired because she slept with the director. The news leaked of her being cut from the sequel before that even happened, from my understanding. People didn't WANT to see the movie because of her. Not a lot of people like Stewart. In my opinion, she isn't that great of an actress, and a lot of others agree. It has nothing to do with fans of Robert's being angry.

I never even liked Taylor Swift. I always knew her lyrics were childish and not that good. Plus I never thought she was that attractive. But that's just money over talent for you.

@ ladyschrei
They cut her from the sequal so completely that her character isn't even going to be played by someone else. Which is bullshit - pretty much everyone shags someone they shoudn't in their early 20s. She shouldn't be punished like this for it just because teenage girls who love Robert Pattinson (is that his name?) are angry.

@ladyschrei
What's also been done before is the bashing a girl for taking your dude card; so I can't quite say that's an original idea either. They're both old tricks. One's empowering, one's just angry and a bit cruel. So see? They've both been used, now haven't they? You asked how many songs were "like that" and I just gave you a few examples to support that there are in fact songs that do take the high road after a break up.

"Cutesy song about how you made it better?" Er...sorry, but what? Those song aren't about how someone else made it better,like the girl who "stole" the guy, is that what you're saying or am I just misreading? I honestly do apologize if I am, I really just don't quite understand what you meant with that statement is all. It's just how they toughed through it and got over it. Yeah, there's anger, but they're not going to be childish and petty about it. Christ, I've spend enough of my life around people who want to do that, why would I want to deal with any more of it? I personally hate the drama of idiot couples breaking up and the hate that comes towards the third party involved. If it was real love there never should have been a third party to worry about because the person you're with wouldn't think twice about cheating if they were truly serious and worth it. I'd just like to hear about someone surpassing those who wronged them rather than dragging it out with vicious, childish songs.

@ LettersToNormandy
Because it's been done so many times before.

And no, I will admit those songs are all good as well. But it's been done. That's not what people really see anymore. If someone took my boyfriend (if I was ever to have one LOL) then yeah, I'd probably say some not nice things, or if someone broke my heart. I'm not gonna be all "OKay LOL here's some cutesy song about how you made me better." Instead, I'd be all ,"Here's a not-so-cutesy song about how I want to hit you with my truck."

@ladyschrei
....Again, I'm not saying she has to be happy about it. I'm just saying instead of hearing a girl sulking about how their boyfriend left them for another girl and pinning it all on said girl, why not tell us how you're better off with one someone who didn't even care about enough to stay with you when another girl walked by?

Ah, actually there are songs like that, and quite frankly they can be catchy and good. Try "Since U Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson, "So What" By Pink, "Fighter" by Christina Aguilera, "Irreplacable" by Beyonce (come on, you can't tell me 'to the left to the left' isn't catchy and just downright awesome), and sweet lord we can't forget "I Will Survive." ALL good songs that send out a positive message about breakups and empower you. Those are great songs, and quite frankly I'd be hard pressed to find someone who said they didn't enjoy at least one of those.

@ LettersToNormandy
I'm not exactly sure which movie director it was she slept with. It was from Snow White, was it not? She didn't lose her movie role over that. If you're referencing her being taken from the sequel, it was because she didn't bring anyone into the film at all. Most who saw Snow White was for Hemsworth.

How many songs are there like that, though? "OMFG MY BOYFRIEND LEFT ME MY LIFE IS NOW GREAT." I'm not saying there aren't a lot of songs bashing boyfriend stealers, because there are, but still. Like I said, it all goes in demand of what people want to hear.

And no, not all guys who go around sleeping with a bunch of girls are considered Gods. In some cases yes, they are. Not in all.

To each their own though. I personally could not care less. If she wants to bash someone on her album, go right ahead. She's the one making the money from it. If people don't want to hear it, they don't have to. It's all personal choice :)

@ladyschrei Bashing a girl for her sexual life is wrong. I'm sorry but it is. Men get forgiven so easily for things like that, again, if a guy cheats, "oh, it's his nature, he got bored, he can't help that." But a girl? As Queen Obscene says take the Kristen Stewart situation. She's getting all the blame for it, all the lights and cameras and utterances of "slut" and "whore." And the director, who is married with small children and who of the two of them really should have thought of those little kids he produced before thinking with his second head gets five minutes in the spot light and then nothing. He gets to keep his position as director of a film while she loses her movie role when they were both apart of the impulsive, reckless situation. It isn't right that women get torn into for acting on the same impulses males do all the time. How is that even fair?

I don't want singing about "happiness" that he left her. God no. But it'd be nice to hear a song about how she might be better off without him, and how she doesn't need a guy in her life to be happy, rather than bashing the girl who "took" him. It does take two to tango so the girl isn't fully to blame.

I like (some) of Taylor's stuff. Ronan is easily one of the sweetest songs I've heard. But tbh I can't respect her for bashing another girl like that on an album; especially when it does promote to her younger fans that it's okay to bash the hell out of each other for things like that. No. We don't do that to men who've had copious women in their beds, or stolen someone's girl. Hell, we admire their prowess. It's a societal issue, and it's just all around laced with double standards. Men who sleep around: Studs. Women who sleep around: Whores. Because that's totally fair and what I want MY children to grow up learning.

I apologize. But anyone who bashes another person for their sexual life doesn't get my respect. People are worth more than their body parts and what they do with them.

Even though I like Taylor Swift, this made me laugh (because it was funny, not because I'm disagreeing or anything). I actually thought the same thing when reading her lyrics, but to me, they're just too damn catchy.

And I agree with ladyschrei, I think that some teenagers want songs like this because they're popular. Just me, though.
I'll always like Taylor Swift as an artist. (:

I think it really depends. Can it be proven this is how she actually handles bad relationships, or is she writing them because they're popular and what teenagers want?

I'd rather listen to a Taylor Swift song singing about her bad breakup and "slut shaming" then sometihng along the lines of: "I'm so happy my boyfriend left me for another girl, they're so great, the world is all rainbows and puppies and we're all just cool and la dee da." No. That's not how a breakup song or album goes lol.

I'll always love Taylor though, no matter what, so.

Wowsers. I loved this and I completely agree with everything you've said.

I don't pay anywhere near enough attention to Taylor Swift to know anything about any of this but I agree with you completely.

Hell, I've been feeling sorry for Kristen Stewart lately (beause a 22 year old woman cheating on her boyfriend is clearly way worse than a married man betraying the mother of his children) and my only prior interest in before had been routinely mocking her expressionless excuse for acting.

And frankly I think we need to stop calling it slut-shaming.

omg, i agree so hard. this is my biggest issue with her.

My apologies, but I didn't call her "All American." I called her the golden child of the U.S. because the country is run an raised on the fact that those attributes are what make you "perfect." I am by no means saying she IS. Because she very sincerely isn't. It's what the media throws at us time and time again; these ridiculous blonde haired, blue eyed six foot tall women who we're supposed to idolize. How often do we get much beyond that stereo type? How often do we get a Native American role model? Doesn't really happen much because the media is so biased all they want to throw in the public's faces are skinny blonde girls who are devoted to god, ect. We don't really advertise other colors, we don't really advertise other religions aside from Christianity. I don't believe this is right; it's what society wants us to believe is. Have you looked at how superficial (albeit fat) most of the American population is? It's because of pop culture and what the media likes to show us because the majority of the time no one wants to think for themselves. If you didn't notice, anything complimenting the girl in this blog was sarcastic. I genuinely don't hold her a good person, or a good role model. I just don't want to see another generation growing up to believe that slut-shamming and the likes of are okay. We're supposed to be past that, but with girls like this whose popularity spreads so far and wide it won't go away. Because she supports the twisted beliefs of America that the only girls worth your time wear non-revealing clothing, say their bed-time prayers every night, and don't do anything that might be considered "immoral". I take issue with that. Especially when the male sex can get away with doing whatever they like sans consequences anyways. It's throwing us back to our stereotyped gender-roles.