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  • SeventhSanctuary

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    @ ComatoseChemicalDaze
    I always get mixed comments on posts like these, but hey people will side and believe what they want. Being raised with different background, and in different places around the world changes people's prospective on things and opinions crash. I'm glad you see me eye to eye on this though. Nice to know I'm not the only person who thinks this, though I'm always open for opinions.
    March 19th, 2013 at 05:59am
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    @ like_taking_diamonds
    You contradict yourself like 5 times. I have family whom deal with rape victims and do their best to make sure that the bastards get locked up for as long as possible. It was their idea to put me into those classes. For me to know how to defend myself and get out of certain situations if I'm ever caught by myself.

    The part about that is completely up to you, and has nothing to do with putting it on the victim. I've learned that by being confident in my ability to fight and escape attacks I won't become a victim of rape in the first place. Assault sounds a lot nicer than rape, and I'd rather be going to court for an assault charge than sitting in the room with the man/woman who raped me.

    I get your opinion, and you're welcome to believe as you wish. If you think my input on this sucks, than so be it. I'm just going off of my own personal experience, and how I've been raised to deal with the hell hole of society we live in today.
    March 19th, 2013 at 05:56am
  • HardlyPlastic

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    The solution to stopping rape is to educate and stop the way of thinking that rapists have. I mean really, people shouldn't have to walk around with a group of friends or carry pepper spray or know self-defense. It's about putting the blame on the culprit and not the victim. I don't even think you realize that by saying people need to educate and empower themselves, take self-defense lessons, go places with people, you're putting it on the victim. That's just stupid. Most rape is committed by people you know. That'a statistical fact. Rape won't go away just because people know how to protect themselves because that doesn't solve the problem. That doesn't target the real issue. The real issue is the people who commit rape. It is never a victims fault.

    (Sorry for the rant, it's just a topic that I've learned a lot about in a few of my sociology courses and it's a really touchy subject with me. I hope you understand that a lot of what I've said is personal opinion and I'm not looking for an argument, just stating my side.)
    March 19th, 2013 at 05:45am
  • DeathDefyingHatter

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    I agree with you 100%. I never go anywhere without someone and I don't let any of my female friends be alone if I can help it. You are absolutely right about it being prevented. If you take all of the precautions then what do you have to worry about. You can't trust strangers. You could be vulnerable at any moment. Thanks for putting this up. Hopefully it inspires.
    March 19th, 2013 at 05:14am
  • Daughter Monster

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    @ SeventhSanctuary

    Right?? And even when it is a woman; sometimes the people in charge won't fucking help you because they don't like you. Nobody helped me out because the person in charge placed herself above my family. People bitch so much about sexual harassment and rape, but they can't put their money where their mouth is sometimes.
    March 19th, 2013 at 03:54am
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    @ Usako
    I get what you're saying. I will admit that I haven't done quiet as much as I probably could be doing, but I speak better through my art than actual words so its hard for me to branch out sometimes. I tip my hat to those that against all odds and harsh elements go out to bring awareness to it, and I tip my hat to the one that isn't afraid to speak out against those in power.

    I feel almost pity for those that claim they want change, that they post and report so much for it, but never outside of their own little homes do they actually do anything to make the change occur. At least there are people who know the facts, that know all sides and are trying to fix the problem.
    March 19th, 2013 at 03:05am
  • SeventhSanctuary

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    @ ladyschrei
    The stupid posts I meant by people only taking one side and just nailing the case without any actual knowledge of what it is. Otherwise the posts don't really bother me if the facts are straight.

    I pointed it out a few times that rape won't just vanish, but hiding behind a computer won't make it die down either. Street smarts is literally what has saved my life a million times, what has kept me out of danger. Simple facts, listen to your gut, don't accept open drinks at clubs and parties unless you are the one getting it yourself, know how to defend yourself and all available exists.

    Rape is at a high, yes, and because it is extremely active people should learn to defend themselves instead of just screaming. I have a gun licences, I always carry a pocket knife with me, and I know how to defend myself with just my bare hands. If you are in a group the chances of you being attacked drop, if you know how to defend yourself the chances also drop. Rape won't just vanish that I know, its been around for god knows how long. Used to be a common thing even that no one carried about, it was just life.

    If things change because people take responsibility, become proactive, it will eventually become that rare thing that barely exists but everyone knows. It's not a sad truth, its a sick truth, and not taking action now and just saying "well that's life" is why its still happening. We've created a society to where woman are seen as weaker to men once again, we've created a society that can't see past their own noses. Step up and prove to them that you are not afraid, prove to them that it is time to change.
    March 19th, 2013 at 02:56am
  • ladyschrei

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    While I agree that protecting yourself is important, there shouldn't be a need to take self-defense classes or walk in large groups. People should be free to walk out their doors without fear of being sexually assaulted, but the sad truth is, that's not going to happen.

    Talking about rape online doesn't make it a "stupid post", unless I'm misunderstanding what you meant there.

    And rape doesn't go away that easy. It's not just going to disappear because you have street smarts. It's not only outside are people attacked sexually. It happens at parties, when someone breaks into your home, your significant other can rape you. It doesn't have to be some random person, it can be anyone. It won't disappear that easily just because you take a martial arts class or walk the street with others. It's sad, but it's the truth.
    March 19th, 2013 at 02:21am
  • Usako

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    Nobody is denying and ignoring the human trafficking or the fact that men can also be raped. If somebody is, they extremely uneducated on the matter to begin with. Heck, just a few days before my vacation, there were protesters on my campus bringing more awareness to human trafficking and modern day slavery. I thought it was pretty admirable because it was freezing outside, but they still managed to get and pull in quite a lot of people.

    And to be honest, passive activism also irritates the day lights out of me, but there are people doing things about it. My friend gave quite a few of the media outlets a piece of her mind for glamorizing the rapists the way they did. Small things like that are just as important as going out to protests and things like that. Not everyone is an irritating passive activist.
    March 19th, 2013 at 02:18am
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    @ Miss Vampire Is Dead
    Yeah, my friend whom was "sexually harassed" (my ass the bitch stuck her hand down his pants and grabbed his shit) got nothing out of it except cops basically laughing in his face and a 500ft restraining order against the chick. That pissed me royally off when he told me that's all they'd give him for closure.
    March 19th, 2013 at 02:13am
  • SeventhSanctuary

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    @ Usako
    I know, and what I meant by its never going away, was the fact of the black market sex slaves. No country has successfully closed black market trade, thus human trafficking and all that.

    I heard about the craze about the two boys, and honestly what can we do? Sitting behind computer screens, preaching god knows what, isn't going to change the fact those sick fucks got a get out of jail free card.

    The point of this wasn't to slap people in the face and say "hey you're wrong, its never going to stop." No, the point of this was to point out two major things; 1 that men can also be the victim not just woman, and 2 to take matters into your own hands and learn to be ready for anything even if it never happens. I've never been in a situation where I've needed to physically defend myself, still hasn't stopped me from taking self defense, mixed martial arts, and wrestling.

    I get what you're saying, hope this helped you understand my point.
    March 19th, 2013 at 02:10am
  • Daughter Monster

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    I agree with you on how people seem to think it's just girls that get raped, because it is NOT true. I get so pissed off about that; and in the end I kind of think that guys end up being bigger victims because society is making it seem like if you are male and you get raped, you are a complete and total pussy. Gotta love society...
    March 19th, 2013 at 02:05am
  • Usako

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    I think the reason it is a hot topic is because of the recent sentencing for those two boys in Ohio, and how the media has portrayed both the victim and the rapists. I mean, have you seen how they have spun the story? I'm not a hardcore feminist like some, and even I know that is wrong. They are saying that the victim ruined those two boys lives, and that she robbed them of promising careers and futures. Excuse me? Not to mention, they only got a slap on the wrist for it. One got suspended to juvenile detention for two years, and the other received a minimum of one year. People do much less (EG, Internet Piracy) and get ten times worse than that.

    While it is important to be smart, it's also important to not place the blame on the victim of rape. In the end, it's the rapist's fault and only the rapist's fault. Saying that "it's never going away", isn't going to help anything either. It's extremely idealistic to want rape eliminated from the world, but at the very least let it be a crime that is punished accordingly and not some sort of laughing stock.
    March 19th, 2013 at 01:49am