Dom/Fertile: Who? What? Where? Why? HOW? - Comments

@ Brian Haner Jr
Which is why I actually said I have no idea if I came up with idea or not, I never actually claimed I created the idea, just that I was never sure where the idea came from. Please read what I wrote. I also never told people to credit me for the idea either, they just started doing it. It would be great though if you could post some links to older dom/fertile ideas to see if any of the stories is where I got the idea from.

@ dandygrrrl
Creating your own personal style is different though. They claim you created the entire "World" of Dom/Fertiles, which is just incorrect. I never read MCR stuff on LF, which is probably why I was all "what?" when I stumbled upon it here and everyone was acting like they'd never seen it before. And on here, they probably hadn't. I'm not trying to come across as a killjoy either, or a bitch, I'm just befuddled by it all.

Back in 05' I was reading SPN Dom/Fertile, and before even that, FF7 Dom/Fertile. The concept, the main plot point, has been around for a very long time. You were probably just the first person posting MCR fiction with that context on mibba.

@ ShotToRemember
Me neither lol. Mind I read you I read this and decided to set a dom/fertile vampire fiction in space. With space pirates lol. I really don't know why people read my stuff lol *facepalm*

@ dandygrrrl
really? wow that would be crazy if you did come up with it! and don't apologize, it's a great idea for like... a few stories.. I just don't get why everyone went along with it haha:) thanks for your input!

@ Brian Haner Jr
Really, I actually have no idea if I fully came up with the idea or not. Red darkness was on Livejournal though as well, round about 2007 I think it first went up. I do feel I should say sorry though as for some reason people have just roled with the idea, because I know I'm a frigging bad writer but it's just basically something I have fun with.

I actually have no idea if I came up with the idea or not. I did start it has a Lord Of The Rings au, or the vampires were elves, and that was back in about 2005. It was called The Warrior And The Seer, and it was on some sight under the name Nothing D'Lion Court. It was on some Yahoo message bored. I hope no one can find it because it was really bad.
I'm also the first to admit my writing is really frigging bad and I have no idea why so many people roled with the idea, but meh I find it fun to write in the au but yeah I get the annoyance when you're looking for vampire stories that aren't dom/fertile.

@ ShotToRemember
Not a problem.

@ Brian Haner Jr
interesssstttingg.. here I thought people had cracked the mystery for me hahaXD thanks for telling me!

I really don't understand why everyone claims the Dom/Fertile concept was created by that "Red Darkness" writer. It wasn't. The Dom/Fertile concept had been around on Livejournal for years before she wrote her piece.

@ ShotToRemember @ ptvjaime dom!frank is just the best!! :)

@ ptvjaime
I like dom!frank:) Dom!frank is my favoriteXD and thank you haha!

I'll hunt through my subscription list. I think it literally has every dom/fertile on Mibba on it. Oy vey. I myself haven't written Frerard because no one likes Dom!Frank but I plan on it this year. :)

@ ptvjaime
that'd be really nice if you could rec some stuff, actually:) I don't read all that many pairs, though, just mcr ones and then maybe, like, preciado and phan.. if you can think of any that'd be fantastic^_^

Oh, no. The way I read it seemed worse. My bad. ^.^ Red Darkness was where it came from, yes. Most of it's Frerard just because that's like... A super popular pairing. Always will be. It also came up that way on Google most likely because Frerard was the first. Weird though, I know a lot of people link to at least the author in their summary. It's easy to find a bad selection, believe me. Depending on what type of pairing you read, I could recommend some good ones. Dom/fertile died down for a bit but the original author has returned from parts unknown and I know I've been inspired to pick it up again, so I'm sure there are others as well.

@ ptvjaime
you're getting the wrong idea. I don't hate Dom/fertile-- if you saw my list of subscriptions you'd know that's true. i was mainly just lost about where the hell it came from. I didn't know it was "born on mibba" as you said, and I'd never heard of Red Darkness. You should understand that I'm simply coming from a place of "why the hell does it exist" and the act that I didn't know that worked me up a little bit. and no, you're right, vampire stories in general aren't original at all, but from what I've read of dom/fertile, it's even worse. maybe I've just gotten a bad selection? I don't know. every single one I've read has generally the same plot line as the others and I simply didn't understand why. I'm sorry if my rant offended you a little, but it wasn't supposed to be offensive:/

Wow. Just wow. Okay. I actually write it. And to be perfectly honest, how are you going to research about a concept that was born on Mibba beyond, I don't know, reading Red Darkness? And actually, if you'd read the original, you'd know a very large amount of authors, including myself, didn't subscribe to most of the ideas presented in that story. I think it's nice to write about a world where the vampires are in complete and utter control over the humans, and finally the humans get what they deserve for treating vampires like crap. And besides, there's just not many ways to make a vampire story original in the first place. I've read hundreds upon hundreds of vampire novels, but let's face it: most of them have the exact same weaknesses as all the others, and a good deal of the aristocratic ones act the same way while the teenage vampires (like the Lost Boys) act the same way. But no one seems to care that so many of these novels are just complete rip-offs of Dracula.

@ ShotToRemember
The dom/fertile thing annoys me too hence I don't read it in fan fiction. 90% of the time, the author has no idea what the hell they're trying to write about. Research. It's called research.

@ Join the Masquerade
Totally. Original vampire shit is my favorite, but there really aren't much fiction written about them anymore, sadly. It's good to know it's not just in the MCR fandom, though. I was really bothered. When I tried to google it, the first couple things that popped up were "dom/fertile frerard" and instantly I was annoyed. Actually, I'm pretty annoyed by dom/fertile in general, if you couldn't tell-_- Thanks for reading and commenting, by the way:) It's nice to know I'm not the only one who feels this way haha

@ deeg83
Hmm, never heard of Red Darkness. You're totally right though: every high school au is pretty much just like the others, as are the dom/fertiles. I just have less of a problem with the high school au's because it doesn't seem COMPLETELY random in my mind haha. And yeah, I know what you mean about Frank being a whiney bitch. I think a lot of people see that he's short and has big eyes and make him out to be some sort of puppy-character. Personally I prefer him to be dominant..... but I don't think there's any way (at least at this point in my life) I'll abandon Frerard... it's just too important to me (which is pretty sad but I'm choosing not to think about how miserable that may make my life out to be). Anyhow, thanks for reading and commenting, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's a little annoyedXD

Im pretty sure the first Dom/Fertile fic is the orignal Red Darkness. Then everyone decided to jump on the bandwagon. I loved Red Darkness and Im currently reading the rewrite but I do agree there are just too many. And in my opinion once you've read one you've kinda read them all. I loved the idea at the start because it was something different, something I hadn't read before.
Its the same with highschool au fics- theres very little originality these days. And im also going off frerards because 9 times out of 10 Frank is a whiney bitch and i just dont see him like that. :)

I have seen them in other fandoms, too. They're always present in the Placebo fandom with various pairings and in the Loki fandom, too.

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just like you might as well write a story with your own twist on vampires.

I'd rather see a story about classic vampires as opposed to one where the author has just made shit up and gone "yeah, these are my version of vampires" because if you change them from the legends/myths then they aren't vampires anymore; they're a new breed of monster. Reminds me of Twilight and just ugh with that.

I hardly ever read MCR stories anymore. I prefer reading Gerard/OFC fics and omg, they are SO HARD to find amongst all the Frerard, which yes, half of which is dom/fertile.