Thank you :)
February 16th, 2010 at 06:19pm
Thank you for this. :)
- Sheepy:
- ^Leviticus 20:13 is generally the most-used quote for this that I've seen.
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
But I've seen people on here say that quote has been taken out of context/was only meant to apply to a certain people/something else I've forgotten. And from this site I found a place saying that "To the Jews an abomination was not a law, not something evil like rape or murder forbidden by the Ten Commandments. It was a common behavior by non-Jews that Jews thought was displeasing to God. Jesus and Paul both said the holiness code in Leviticus does not pertain to Christian believers."
Same site also pointing out that the Bible mentions homosexuality a grand total of about seven times? Within the thousands upon thousands of verses, and the large portions of verses that we now pretty much ignore completely (Like the remainder of Lev. 20)...and yet some people still use it as an excuse to be intolerant.
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Also, the lovely lovely people of the Westboro Baptist Church, in response to the question "Doesn't it say God loves everyone?", say that it never says that in the Bible, and when it does it means to say that 'God loves his people', and not that 'God loves every single person in the universe'. Of course, it's the WBC, so take with as much salt as you like, but it's just a view that some infinitesimally small amount of people have in regards to that idea I felt like pointing out.
Do keep in mind that the Church remains 100 years behind everything. That's why it has survived as long as it has. I'm sure in the next 100 years the Church will accept same sex marriage. It's just the Church doesn't rush into things, especially when there is an insane amount of outside influence. They don't make decisions in a day.
- DaPrincipessa:
- Please, don't talk about things you know nothing about. Yes, in Bible it says God loves everyone. But it also says, that homosexuals should be killed. Do you understand it now?
I am Christian, and I thing gay-marriage and adoption should be legalized.
But some Christians don't.
We all know, that Bible we have now isn't the same, as it was written two thousand years ago. Some things changed, some writers added their own thoughts etc. As for me, I believe that part of killing gays was added, since God loves everybody through all Bible, and wants to kill gays in one part only.
But some Christians don't think so.
And one more thing. Don't generalize. In the same way, that you said: "All Christians hate gays." I could say: "All Americans are obese." Which isn't true, of course.
All of the discrimination comes from prejudice and all of the prejudice comes form generalizing.
So.. Just get your facts straight.
That can be taken pretty offensively. Some decisions do come with time, but did you ever think that it's not because they're behind, but that it's just their beliefs about things?
- solitary poetryan:
- Do keep in mind that the Church remains 100 years behind everything. That's why it has survived as long as it has. I'm sure in the next 100 years the Church will accept same sex marriage. It's just the Church doesn't rush into things, especially when there is an insane amount of outside influence. They don't make decisions in a day.
Oh yeah, I jumped for joy. Literally jumped for joy.
- pierrot the clown.:
- Prop. 8 was just declared unconstitutional.
“… Proposition 8 was premised on the belief that same-sex couples simply are not as good as opposite-sex couples. Whether that belief is based on moral disapproval of homosexuality, animus towards gays and lesbians or simply a belief that a relationship between a man and a woman is inherently better than a relationship between two men or two women, this belief is not a proper basis on which to legislate. The arguments surrounding Proposition 8 raise a question similar to that addressed in Lawrence v. Texas, when the Court asked whether a majority of citizens could use the power of the state to enforce profound and deep convictions accepted as ethical and moral principles through the criminal code. The question here is whether California voters can enforce those same principles through regulation of marriage licenses. They cannot. California’s obligation is to treat its citizens equally, not to mandate its own moral code. Moral disapproval, without any other asserted state interest, has never been a rational basis for legislation. Tradition alone cannot support legislation.” - Judge Vaughn Walker.
So what exactly happened about that? I heard from my girlfriend gays can get married now...that's true right? When did this happen?
- Filistata:
- So all of that being said, I'm overjoyed that Prop 8 has been overturned. It's about damn time. :3