Marijuana

dru is a wild thing.:

You act like there's no choice but developing an addiction if you use a substance. Is that just how I'm reading it?

Saying that you have a choice to not develop an addiction is like saying that you have a choice to not let the tar in cigarette smoke damage your lung cells. Not everybody who smokes gets lung cancer - true, but this is not because they willed themselves into not being sick, it's because of other (environmental, genetic, etc) factors.

THC is not used to treat cancer - it doesn't cure any kind of cancer, it's used to help people manage their symptoms because it decreases nausea and increases appetite. But people who have advanced cancer or AIDS who get prescribed marijuana don't have headaches and are not just slightly queasy - they're in horrific amounts of pain - for long periods of time - and quite simply nothing else works.

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I know it doesn't cure cancer, it helps chemo patients with the horrible side effects of chemotherapy, like naseua, lack of appetitite, etc.

And I know what doesn't have a choice to get an addiction, but since marijuana can only be habitually addictive and not physically addictive, I think I dodged that bullet (and so did every other stoner.)

Marijuana smoke has been shown to help cancer patients with their appetite, but a study I posted earlier demonstrated that it was only due to the placebo effect.

THC is valid treatment in other areas, though, such as mild, non-addictive pain medication. That doesn't necessitate smoking the drug; having a regulated pill form enables more control over dosage and doesn't have the same nasty side effects as smoking.

I've smoked it numerous times but I always got my boyfriend to pay for it. :3
It's not really a big deal. I could do with or without it, it just makes things more interesting.

kizzman:

Marijuana smoke has been shown to help cancer patients with their appetite, but a study I posted earlier demonstrated that it was only due to the placebo effect.

I don't see why marijuana wouldn't give the munchies to cancer patients, since it gives them to most other people when they start smoking.

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THC is valid treatment in other areas, though, such as mild, non-addictive pain medication. That doesn't necessitate smoking the drug; having a regulated pill form enables more control over dosage and doesn't have the same nasty side effects as smoking.

I agree that there are much healthier ways to get the medicine. (You can also ingest it, use lotion, use balm, etc. ) I acknowledge the risks from the smoking part of smoking marijuana, but I do believe it is my right to choose to take it into my body that way. If I can smoke cigarettes, which kill over 400,00 people per year I should be allowed to smoke marijuana, which has never reportedly killed anyone.

I just believe that once you reach a certain age, you should be allowed to decide what potentially dangerous substances you should be allowed to use recreationally.

TARDIS.:

I've smoked it numerous times but I always got my boyfriend to pay for it. :3
It's not really a big deal. I could do with or without it, it just makes things more interesting.

Age: 16

This is what I meant when I brought up the age issue earlier.

for dru's sins.:

I agree that there are much healthier ways to get the medicine. (You can also ingest it, use lotion, use balm, etc. )

That makes THC (not marijuana as a whole) a viable medical treatment, but it's not congruent with the current "medical marijuana" initiative, which, let's be honest, is only a front for a legalization agenda.

for dru's sins.:

I acknowledge the risks from the smoking part of smoking marijuana, but I do believe it is my right to choose to take it into my body that way. If I can smoke cigarettes, which kill over 400,00 people per year I should be allowed to smoke marijuana, which has never reportedly killed anyone.

I just believe that once you reach a certain age, you should be allowed to decide what potentially dangerous substances you should be allowed to use recreationally.

Fair enough, though I'd hope that responsible usage would be required by law. I'm also partial to the idea that substances like PCP and meth would remain illegal.

I think that making any "drug" illegal just creates an underground market for it. I think responsible usage of any "drug" should be law and anyone who is caught using irresponsibly should be given treatment, not jail time.

Soo you believe that all drugs can be used responsibly?

@ kizzman
I believe most people who use "drugs" will not abuse them. I believe those who do should get help. So, yes, I believe they all can. And for those who can't use them responsibly, they clearly need help.

I know people who have used cocaine responsibly.

@ for dru's sins.
You have no idea how much I agree with and relate to this. When my mom was still around, she had cancer and was very sensitive to a lot of her medication to the point that she couldn't take it any more (she almost died off 3mg of Dilaudid, aka hydromorphone). I finally convinced her to get her medical license and me and her smoked weed out of my vaporizer every day for the last two years of her life. It helped her immensely. Was it some magical "cure"? Obviously not because she's dead, duh. But it alleviated a ton of her pain, she was able to work up an appetite and actually keep the food down, she could sleep peacefully through the night, etc etc etc. It also helped her a lot mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. The positive change in her personality was amazing. Also, after a couple months of vaping (not smoking) and eating edibles (not smoking), she went to her doctor and several of the tumors on her lungs had actually shrunk and the cancer spread at a drastically slower pace. So if someone has any qualms with recreational use--that's fine, whatever, but--and while I realize this is all 100% anecdotal evidence--anyone who says that weed has no medical benefits is full of it.

(btw, I just reread the post of yours that I was replying to and it was the one on the previous page where you mentioned something about MS and cancer patients. I didn't realize it was on the previous page and it was almost a week old, so my bad. xD)

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Anyway, I smoke bud all the time. xD The first time I smoked it was when I was 11 because of my friend's older cousin, and I've basically been a daily smoker since I was 13. I do it alone because it's fun and helps me write. I do it with friends again because it's fun and it's a social thing. I do it at night to help me sleep. I love weed. xD Doesn't mean I think everyone should smoke it though, or do it all the time. It's definitely been the downfall, or the catalyst to the downfall, of a lot of my friends, unfortunately. :/

I've only done it 3 times, and the last time I did, I got really freaked out and hallucinated a lot, it was horrible. I don't really know what happened, it could have been laced or I could have just had too much. I don't know if I'd do it again... meh.

dru is the man.:

It's stupid to pretend it cures everything, but it's also just as silly to pretend that it doesn't have some medicinal purposes. I personally have used it to cure nausaeu and headaches.

It's really hard for me to watch people with MS and cancer talk about how much it has helped them because I know how much people say they're full of shit and I truly don't believe they are. If THC didn't help cure things, the pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be trying to come up with their own synthetic version to make cancer meds with.

THC doesn't "cure" anything, though. It doesn't cure cancer, glaucoma, MS or any of the other diseases that warrants a medical marijuana prescription. They use it because it alleviates their symptoms, not because it cures them.

Old post is old. I hate it when I don't get taken to the last page of a thread.

I used to smoke at least once a week, it was my escape from depression, and not only that, but I have so many more friends. I got caught by my mom & I quit about 2 months ago. Should I start smoking again? I want to I just don't know if I should.

hahanaomi:

I used to smoke at least once a week, it was my escape from depression, and not only that, but I have so many more friends. I got caught by my mom & I quit about 2 months ago. Should I start smoking again? I want to I just don't know if I should.

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I've only tried marijuana once. If I'm remembering correctly, it was back in my freshman year of high school and I did it with my then best friend and two of her cousins. One of her cousins tried to teach us how to smoke it "correctly" since neither of us had done it before and I'm pretty sure they didn't teach us right considering we both started choking and coughing. As far as I know, that's not supposed to happen. So I'm guessing I just had some bad 'teachers'.

With how hectic things have gotten in life for me recently, I've put some consideration into trying it again (perhaps in a different form than smoking) just to see if it'll help relax me when things get too rough to deal with. I guess I'm just getting desperate for some way to cope with all this and I've had a lot of people suggest turning to marijuana. Most everyone I know in my city uses marijuana in some form and knows where to get it so it wouldn't be too hard to find someone to teach me and tell me where to get it safely.

The big problem though is that my mom's husband is a recovering alcoholic and drug addict, so I don't want to accidently cause him to relapse if he smells the smoke on me. I know he and my mother wouldn't care if I'm doing it as long as I'm still being "productive" in life and not getting caught but I don't want to take the chance on leading him to relapse. There's that problem and the fact my girlfriend doesn't want me smoking it at all, so I don't want to upset her either. I don't know, I've just been putting a lot of thought into it lately. I don't know how serious I am about it though, but I guess it wouldn't be a good idea until I manage to move out of my parents house anyway.

@ Airi.
Coughing/choking is very common for beginning smokers just 'cause you aren't used to it yet.

I've done it about six times, however I've watch it destroy most of my friends and sister.
I know it affects everyone differently, but watching it rule someone's life is scary.
My sister is the epitome of wake and bake.

I smoke when I get the chance. I love it myself. I don't feel that it's a gateway drug, to me it depends on the person. But I prefer it over drinking, which I don't do.

@ awake my soul;
The only way I think it really is a gateway drug is that people smoke it and go 'oh, all the horrible terrible things they said marijuana would do to me in school are bullshit, maybe they lied about other things too' and try it. I doubt I would have tried shrooms if I wasn't smoking pot, 'cause I wouldn't have had the opportunity, but I also don't think its a bad thing. I won't do things that aren't natural.

If people didn't lie, it wouldn't be an issue. But God forbid we admit pot isn't actually horrible for you, the paper companies just didn't want competition.

@ dru is screaming.
You're right. As long as it's natural it's good to me. It's when one adds chemicals to things that they become bad. But one thing I have noticed is when people smoke a LOT of weed they become very forgetful, my uncle is an example. Hell even I forget shit but it's not that bad.