Nihlism

The Unknown:

If the person is so depressed as to thinking there is no meaning (and wishing him- or herself dead because of that) they are most likely "troubled"... Or raging with hormones. Lol.

Anywho, I also agree to the fact that there's always a choice to how you live. If I remember correctly, you worded it, "Have mad fun" xD

I don't think there's a meaning but I didn't come to that belief through depression, and I certainly don't wish myself dead because of it. Why would I? Life's the only thing I've got, why would I want to poof myself into non-existence?

Dustfinger.:

The Unknown:

If the person is so depressed as to thinking there is no meaning (and wishing him- or herself dead because of that) they are most likely "troubled"... Or raging with hormones. Lol.

Anywho, I also agree to the fact that there's always a choice to how you live. If I remember correctly, you worded it, "Have mad fun" xD

I don't think there's a meaning but I didn't come to that belief through depression, and I certainly don't wish myself dead because of it. Why would I? Life's the only thing I've got, why would I want to poof myself into non-existence?

But if "life is the only thing you have" doesn't that mean that life is very precious and meaningful to you?

Dustfinger.:

The Unknown:

If the person is so depressed as to thinking there is no meaning (and wishing him- or herself dead because of that) they are most likely "troubled"... Or raging with hormones. Lol.

Anywho, I also agree to the fact that there's always a choice to how you live. If I remember correctly, you worded it, "Have mad fun" xD

I don't think there's a meaning but I didn't come to that belief through depression, and I certainly don't wish myself dead because of it. Why would I? Life's the only thing I've got, why would I want to poof myself into non-existence?

I never said you did. Besides, in my post (only two posts above the one you quoted), I stated that Nihilists (or, if you want to be specific: 'People who think things are meaningless') do not have to be, and many are not, depressed. The post you quoted was just a simple agreement to the person above me.

Kafka (Jeez I hope I spelt that right): I think there are some objects/people/places/etc that Nihilists don't realize hold meaning to them. I don't know whether that applies to their "belief" (which really isn't the correct word to use, just the best word I know to describe it with at the moment) or not. If so, then no one is really a Nihilist.

My little side note: What I thought Nihilism was for a while, was 'Something that is based off the "Big Picture". Ie: Life.' It wasn't until after certain events that I really couldn't define the thought at all. (Honestly, I still can't define it in a proper way. Instead I use that old way of thinking. I know, how evolved) xD

kafka.:

I don't think there's a meaning but I didn't come to that belief through depression, and I certainly don't wish myself dead because of it. Why would I? Life's the only thing I've got, why would I want to poof myself into non-existence?

But if "life is the only thing you have" doesn't that mean that life is very precious and meaningful to you?Yes, that's what I was saying, that Nihlism doesn't have to be depressing.

The Unknown:

I never said you did. Besides, in my post (only two posts above the one you quoted), I stated that Nihilists (or, if you want to be specific: 'People who think things are meaningless') do not have to be, and many are not, depressed. The post you quoted was just a simple agreement to the person above me.

Sorry. I have a habit of not looking at usernames when I'm reading a thread so I don't know who's already said what.

Haha, no worries. I do the same thing.

In a weird way, nihilism does make sense. I mean, the universe could simply cease to be and then... nothing happens. It's hard to explain what I'm trying to get at, so I'll just leave it at that. But in the end, even if you believe that everything is meaningless, it doesn't mean you can't be happy.

I'm going to make a really shitty analogy now and say that it could be just like eating a chocolate; we don't need to and yet we do. We're not starving, it won't make us healthier, and yet we eat it. So someone could think there's no reason to live and yet they keep on living. It doesn't really have to be depressing, the problem is when you're already depressed and start having nihilistic thoughts.

... I said it was a shitty analogy. :shifty But what exactly is nihilism? The belief that nothing means anything or that everything is meaningless to you? I find the difference in those statements really important.

Im a nihilist and have been for a while , anyone who dissmisses it as whiney teenage angst is to enthusiastic about life , personally I think it's rather beautiful and majestic being allowed an end.

I do agree that Nihilism is viewed as an excuse to not live out life to it's fullest.
To be honest, life sucks and then you die.
But if you view it that way, then what is the point of even living? To go day by day, hoping that death comes and takes you for this nonsensical world?
How sad and depressing.
I think Nihilism was simply created as a philosophy that is afraid of living.

How does nothing have meaning when you pass through life and look around you?
If I misunderstand, then please tell me so.

But anyway, those who are Nihilists, I am actually astonished. I do actually believe that you guys' are brave. No sarcasm or anything here. I do. To wake up everyday and not find meaning or magic in the world or in simply you're room, I think that some guts.

I couldn't do it. To live in this world, I have to have faith that this world isn't just a long road that leads me to death. It's tough not to have some kind of hope that everything is not pure bullshit. I have to, if not, I would be dead already.

Dustfinger.:

kafka.:

I don't think there's a meaning but I didn't come to that belief through depression, and I certainly don't wish myself dead because of it. Why would I? Life's the only thing I've got, why would I want to poof myself into non-existence?

But if "life is the only thing you have" doesn't that mean that life is very precious and meaningful to you?

But if life is meaningful to you that means that you're not a nihilist, as nihilists believe that nothing is meaningful.

Okay, how do I explain this?
My life is meaningful to me, right now but when I die, that's it, my life is gone and so is the meaning. There's no greater meaning to life. Even if there is, that meaning itself will die with the Universe in some 100 trillion years.
That's how I see it. If that made sense.

Dustfinger.:

Okay, how do I explain this?
My life is meaningful to me, right now but when I die, that's it, my life is gone and so is the meaning. There's no greater meaning to life. Even if there is, that meaning itself will die with the Universe in some 100 trillion years.
That's how I see it. If that made sense.

It did make sense, but you're still not a Nihilist.

moxie;:

I do agree that Nihilism is viewed as an excuse to not live out life to it's fullest.
To be honest, life sucks and then you die.
But if you view it that way, then what is the point of even living? To go day by day, hoping that death comes and takes you for this nonsensical world?
How sad and depressing.
I think Nihilism was simply created as a philosophy that is afraid of living.

That's not nihlism. Nihlism is that you understand that life has no meaning, it doesn't mean that they want it to stop.

I, myself, look at life in a nihlistic way. There is no meaning and any meaning that is gained will be lost in a year, a decade, a millenia after I kick the bucket. That's comforting.

I find a lot of humour in it as well. Humans! So concerned with pointless and stupid tasks, it fills their life up with tax invoices, teeth brushing, socks, Sudoku, crosswords, cholesterol, swine flu, calanders, romcoms and a myriad of tedious, pointless things that are only of use to preoccupy that glint of light between conception and death.

I find it pretty funny. But maybe, I'm a crappy nihlist. I prefer to laugh at the inanity of existance than be all serious about it. Seriousness, for me, can be anything and mean anything. Sillyness will always only be silly. Sillyness is truthful. I like sillyness. Everything is silly. Seriousness, well...being serious about stupid things...does that make you any more noble than someone who is silly about serious things?

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How does nothing have meaning when you pass through life and look around you?
If I misunderstand, then please tell me so.

Life is meaningless. Nothing would occur if I was never born or if I died today or in ten thousand years. It would still be bloody tedious and meaningless. And inadvertantly hilerious, of course.

Life is pointless, yes. But pointlessness is funny. Pointlessness is a good thing. However, I am still going to acknowledge the daftness of it.

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But anyway, those who are Nihilists, I am actually astonished. I do actually believe that you guys' are brave. No sarcasm or anything here. I do. To wake up everyday and not find meaning or magic in the world or in simply you're room, I think that some guts.

Pointlessness has a certain charm about it. Think about all those weird little folly things that posh people in times gone by used: all those little trinkets and boxes and tables that were relatively pointless.

I think the world has magic. But magic is pointless.

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I couldn't do it. To live in this world, I have to have faith that this world isn't just a long road that leads me to death. It's tough not to have some kind of hope that everything is not pure bullshit. I have to, if not, I would be dead already.

Oh, I dunno.

I do think you are somewhat mixing up depression and nihlism.

There is a bit of overlap but life is a pointless joke to me.

But the thing is, I like jokes.

So...pfft?

kafka.:

Dustfinger.:

Okay, how do I explain this?
My life is meaningful to me, right now but when I die, that's it, my life is gone and so is the meaning. There's no greater meaning to life. Even if there is, that meaning itself will die with the Universe in some 100 trillion years.
That's how I see it. If that made sense.

It did make sense, but you're still not a Nihilist.

What exactly is a Nihlist then?
I believe there is no point or greater meaning to life and there's nothing after death. I don't see how I can believe that but just because I'm not depressed about it, I'm not a Nihlist.

I have been for a few years and will be a nihilist for all my life.

No one gives a shit about you, and we're all pretty worthless at the end of the day. We love out of fear, not goodness.

moxie;:

I do agree that Nihilism is viewed as an excuse to not live out life to it's fullest.
To be honest, life sucks and then you die.
But if you view it that way, then what is the point of even living? To go day by day, hoping that death comes and takes you for this nonsensical world?
How sad and depressing.
I think Nihilism was simply created as a philosophy that is afraid of living.

How does nothing have meaning when you pass through life and look around you?
If I misunderstand, then please tell me so.

But anyway, those who are Nihilists, I am actually astonished. I do actually believe that you guys' are brave. No sarcasm or anything here. I do. To wake up everyday and not find meaning or magic in the world or in simply you're room, I think that some guts.

I couldn't do it. To live in this world, I have to have faith that this world isn't just a long road that leads me to death. It's tough not to have some kind of hope that everything is not pure bullshit. I have to, if not, I would be dead already.

To me, life is worth living a whole lot more because I don't think there's anything afterwards. I dunno, maybe that's just my own reasoning. But yeah...

robert smith:

moxie;:

I do agree that Nihilism is viewed as an excuse to not live out life to it's fullest.
To be honest, life sucks and then you die.
But if you view it that way, then what is the point of even living? To go day by day, hoping that death comes and takes you for this nonsensical world?
How sad and depressing.
I think Nihilism was simply created as a philosophy that is afraid of living.

How does nothing have meaning when you pass through life and look around you?
If I misunderstand, then please tell me so.

But anyway, those who are Nihilists, I am actually astonished. I do actually believe that you guys' are brave. No sarcasm or anything here. I do. To wake up everyday and not find meaning or magic in the world or in simply you're room, I think that some guts.

I couldn't do it. To live in this world, I have to have faith that this world isn't just a long road that leads me to death. It's tough not to have some kind of hope that everything is not pure bullshit. I have to, if not, I would be dead already.

To me, life is worth living a whole lot more because I don't think there's anything afterwards. I dunno, maybe that's just my own reasoning. But yeah...

Atheism and nihilism are not synonims.
You can be an atheist and still think your life is meaningful in itself.

kafka.:

Atheism and nihilism are not synonims.
You can be an atheist and still think your life is meaningful in itself.

I live life the way I want to live it, based on the fact that I think there are no concequences. I don't necessarily live my life to the fullest - I worded that badly - but rather, I just live how I want to.

^ That's more egoism than nihlism

^ See. I dunno. I think that to me, living life is like having a dream - you know it's not real, but you still enjoy it while you have it, type thing.
I dunno.

I'm a nihilist, most definitely. People think it's depressing; I think it's the truth. When you think about it, everything really doesn't matter.
Unless you're changing the world, destroying it or maybe making a great change, you're going down in history as some person without a name.
Adolf Hitler, (not saying I agree with him...), theres a man who's ALWAYS going to be remembered. Because he actually did something.
& Obama, he's going to be remembered quite well too.

I guess what I'm saying is that you're not going to get anywhere, unless you take yourself there. Otherwise, everything you do is completely stupid and pointless.