Fifteen Year Old Girl Stabs, Strangles, and Slits the Throat of a Nine Year Old Girl.

  • panhead4life93

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    @ Diligence
    True. Don't excecute her (that was a poor choice of words) but don't let her get by with murder. Put her in jail or something like you'd do with anyone else. I have mental disorders and I don't kill people.
    July 9th, 2013 at 11:32pm
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    @ panhead4life93
    Well I wasn't saying that she shouldn't have been put in jail or something of the sort, she couldn't avoid getting put in jail either way. She's not getting by with murder, didn't they give her a sentence and carry it out? I wouldn't think she's enjoying herself or anything.
    I'm not sure what you mean by your last statement, what does that have to do with this? (I don't mean to sound rude but what's the comparison for?)
    July 9th, 2013 at 11:37pm
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    @ Diligence
    Because I have mental disorders and don't go kill people. She kills people. So I mean, does she have a disorder or is she just horrible?
    July 9th, 2013 at 11:40pm
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    @ panhead4life93
    I feel that you should only compare yourself to her if you and she had the same disorder [not that it's justified], and i'm not sure if she does have a disorder at all, I haven't done the research on it.

    Oops, edit.
    July 9th, 2013 at 11:44pm
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    @ Diligence
    I have a ton of disorders. OCD, depression, EDNOS, Bipolar, Multiple personality disorder, PTSD, etc. I would list all of them, but the list would be too long.
    July 9th, 2013 at 11:51pm
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    @ panhead4life93
    That being said, did you look up whether not this girl had any of those disorders? I don't know if the argument you're trying to get through unless it's certain she has one of those disorders and all that. But I mean, it still doesn't justify killing, so I understand.
    July 10th, 2013 at 12:04am
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    @ panhead4life93
    But if her crime was motivated by mental illness, don't you think it would be better to rehabilitate her instead of throwing her in jail? If she gets thrown in jail, because of her age, she will most likely get released. I'm not sure if she was tried as an adult but if she wasn't, then her sentence will be more lenient as a minor. Minors can't get sentenced to death in the U.S, it's considered cruel and inhumane punishment to sentence a minor to death. Most likely, she'll serve a few years in jail and later be released. With that in mind, do you still think it's a good idea to simply throw her in jail without any help?

    This is one of the reasons there is so much crime in the U.S (where this happened). Many people are driven by mental illness into doing it but instead of helping people with their illness, we throw them in jail and expect jail to magically fix them when American jails are designed to create monsters and not fix anyone. People with mental illnesses that drove them to commit the crime, be it murder or something else, should serve out their sentence in a psychiatric hospital. A place where they will get help, where they will get medication and go through therapy. A place where they'll learn how to cope with their illness and how to not let their illness take over.

    Mental illness has a tendency to take over the person if they don't control it. For example, I have depression and anxiety. Before I got medicated, my depression would take over. I would hurt myself without knowing what I was doing until after the fact. I couldn't control what I was doing. I'm just thankful I took it out on myself and not another person. But you see, people lose control sometimes because of their mental illnesses and instead of throwing them in jail to later be released without help, wouldn't it be better for us to let them serve their sentence in a psychiatric hospital so when they're let out, they hopefully won't be a repeat offender?

    It's not justifying the murder or saying she should get off "easy". She deserves to be punished for the murder, but she can serve our her punishment in a place that can also help her because trust me, psychiatric hospitals are no walk in the park. But then again, like I said, I know little to nothing about the case and this is all just speculation. ^^'
    July 10th, 2013 at 01:18am
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    panhead4life93:
    @ Alex; periphery.
    I have some mental problems but I don't kill people.
    No disrespect, but that's probably because your mental problems aren't the same as the mental problems that cause someone to kill.

    [Just realised this is late, but I stand my my point.]
    July 10th, 2013 at 02:26am
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    I think she's ill. She needs a lot of help and probably some jail time.
    July 10th, 2013 at 03:37am
  • panhead4life93

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    @ Airi.
    Yeah. I looked her up and read an article on her and it didn't really say specifically but it sounds like she was disturbed or something. I mean, no one sane or even half sane would do that. here's the article if anyone's interested.

    By the way, (this is to anybody) I have a contest about mental disorders.
    July 10th, 2013 at 12:09pm
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    @ panhead4life93
    You're right up there with Iraq and Afghanistan supporting the death penalty carried out on minors. It's also against the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, which says minors cannot be given a death penalty.

    You have every right to think what you do, but you are standing against most of the world who believes child execution is wrong. A month or so ago a fifteen year old girl was executed in another country for being raped and a fourteen year old boy was executed for 'blasphemy'. I consider those crimes to be morally repugnant and, while the US kinda eats it as far as criminal justice goes already, I really don't want to join the ranks of countries that kill children.

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    Also, I too have several mental disorders and have never killed anyone. But I also know my experience with my personal mental disorders does not mean I know everything about another's mental illnesses or how it effects them. I'm curious as to how yours also you to do so?
    July 10th, 2013 at 06:18pm
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    @ dru is taken apart.
    Someone was killed for being raped?
    July 10th, 2013 at 06:24pm
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    That is so horribly messed up. You have to be mentally ill to kill somebody, an innocent little girl, just so you would know what it felt like to kill somebody. Having thoughts like that isn't normal.. I just think she needs some professional help, and I hope she's getting it.
    July 23rd, 2013 at 09:22pm
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    pinheadfaygot:
    I know that those things don't require you to not have mental disorders. I'm not stupid. I have a fucking cousin who tried to kill her mother and brother, and she had no mental issues. Never diagnosed! She just has no morals.

    And I also don't think she should go to a mental institution then be let out instead of going to freaking prison. I've known people who have had needed to go to institutions for "mental" help, were released, and it did absolutely nothing. For all you know, she could be let out and then go kill someone else. Murder deserves prison. If this nine year old girl were your friend, or your sister, or your relative, would you be okay with the fifteen year old girl getting no punishment besides being sent somewhere for "help" and then released? I highly doubt that. She may need help, but a murder does deserve punishment.

    I feel bad for the victim, not the murderer. File.
    She can go to a mental institution and not be released. It would be like prison, but she would be provided with the help and medicine she needs instead of killing more people in prison. Because despite what this country obviously thinks of their criminals, they are people. Yes, some of them have done some really terrible things and deserve to rot in there. But most of them are just people who made some mistakes, and the only difference between us and them is that they got caught.

    That's why people who are mentally ill and kill people are put into institutions, not prisons. And also, the reason people started mentioning that you don't have to be poor to be mentally ill is because you mentioned you doubted her insanity simply because of her appearance. Mental illness is a genetic thing, and does not discriminate against class. It is very possible that she has a perfect life, but because her brain has a chemical imbalance, she does things like kill little girls for fun.

    PLEASE do not think that I am excusing this in any way, shape, or form. What this girl did was disgusting, and no matter what it is--mental illness or otherwise--she should not be released into the general public because she is obviously a very unstable human being. I have a little sister who is almost five, she is one of the most beautiful things in the world to me, and if anyone ever did to her what happened here, I would die. However, from that same point of view, I can honestly say that if the girl was clinically insane, I would want her to go to an institution for the rest of her life, not be foisted onto a bunch of potential victims in a prison where no one cares for the inmates' well being.
    July 26th, 2013 at 04:03am