Incest in Writing

What do you think of incest in writing, writing incest, and reading incest?

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?

*For the record, this thread is to discuss consensual incestuous relationships, not rape stories or molestation stories.

**Be mindful of Mibba's rules on bashing and insulting. This is NOT a place to bash or insult those who read or write incest, nor is it a place to bash or insult those who don't.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I've written it. I've read it. I don't think anything except sexualized child pornography should be censured from literature.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
Yes. Siblings. Cousins. Any situation where it's not an authority figure/child figure. I abhor father/daughter or anything of the sort. Which, to me, is the same as my views in real life. I support consensual adult incest in RL, but not between an authority figure/child figure.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
I like it. I actually have always wanted to write a Rockett where they're cousins. I started it once, but lost interest. Maybe I'll try that again.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
Same as above. It's easier if I don't know the band well to separate the characters from canon, however.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I've written it. I've read a couple of other incest stories. I'm not into the ones that are all about sex. I'm more interested in how the incestuous affair affects each character involved and what they personally think about it. I'm not really into the sexual part of it.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
Siblings, but like I said, if it's all just sex I won't read it. I want to read about the relationship and not just smut. I only write sibling emotional incest. I like exploring their mindset and how their consensual love for each other affects their ability to have other romantic relationships even if they're not having sex.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
I've never read anything like that. Not against it, I've just never come across one yet. I don't see why it would be a big issue.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
I haven't read any story like that either. I suppose I'd have no problem with it. It's fiction. People are allowed to explore what they want.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I can't stand it. I find it, even when its cousins, disgusting. I tried to read it once but it was very awkward to read.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
No. I've only written about incest once and it was in the backdrop of the story and that was weird enough to write.

I did not answer the last two because I don't read fanfiction.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I personally think it's a little awkward, so I don't read it. I don't think people that read it or write it are gross, though; it's their imagination, and creativity shouldn't be censored by something so petty as incest in my opinion. I just think it's a little awkward for me.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
I don't read or write about incest.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)
I actually might read that; it might be a little less awkward for me knowing that the two aren't actually related in real life.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
I wouldn't be able to separate the fact that they're related in RL, I don't think. So I probably wouldn't read it because I think it would be awkward.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I read Jane Austen novels, so the idea of cousins falling in love and getting married is nothing new to me. I don't really mind it. However, I'm not a huge fan of incest in general. I can't say I have extremely strong feelings about it, however, incest with very, very closely related family members, such as between siblings or between father/daughter makes me feel a bit ill, to be honest. Siblings, less so, but father/daughter? God, no. It almost feels like the adult is controlling and almost abusive, really. That's what I get out of it, anyways.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
I don't write incest, but if I did, I think I'd be interested in writing about the emotional causes and the reasons a person would do something society considered so taboo. And like I mentioned before, I read period books about cousins who get married and such.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
I've never heard of something like this before. I don't like fanfiction much in general, so I'm going to have to say this doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. I don't believe that these people would have the same relationship if they were related. Would Gerard Way date/marry Lyn-Z if she was his sister? No, he wouldn't.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
As I've said, I don't read much fanfiction, but I would still find this awkward. I can see how it would have merrits over the previous question, but really? No. If I was famous, and someone was writing a fanfic about me fucking my sister, I'd be disgusted and pissed off as hell even if they said she wasn't my sister and blah blah blah. This would just be my reaction, of course. I pity any famous person to ever stumble across Mibba, to be honest. Yeah, it's fanfiction and it's not real and it's the author's prerogative and they can fuck with famous people's lives just for teh lolz because it's the internet, but please. Have a little sensitivity sometimes.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I support people's right to write it, but I would never write it myself. It's just not my style. I write about topics that I enjoy writing about, and incest just isn't one of them. I don't feel like I'm at the right level as a writer to even consider writing about incest. It's such a sensitive topic, and I feel like I couldn't handle it well.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
No. I'll read anything as long as it's well-written.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
That's fine if the author can pull it off.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
Same as above.

bandits.:

No. If I was famous, and someone was writing a fanfic about me fucking my sister, I'd be disgusted and pissed off as hell even if they said she wasn't my sister and blah blah blah. This would just be my reaction, of course. I pity any famous person to ever stumble across Mibba, to be honest. Yeah, it's fanfiction and it's not real and it's the author's prerogative and they can fuck with famous people's lives just for teh lolz because it's the internet, but please. Have a little sensitivity sometimes.

I've heard a lot of people say they would be really embarassed if said famous person stumbled across their writings.

And other people saying to me (to make me feel bad about writing something, generally) what if said person stumbled across your fic.

It's sort of the same thing here. "Having sensitivity" and it's just lol-worthy to do so. I never write anything I'm ashamed of. No, I'm not going to walk up to Ryan Ross and shove my fic in his face, but if he stumbled across it I wouldn't be ashamed.

Same goes for the Way brothers (whom I've slashed together).

If you're ashamed of writing something, you probably shouldn't be writing it in the first place, no?

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?

I'm not bothered really. I think fanfiction when it concerns...real people (as opposed to characters) can come off as a bit awkward. But otherwise...I see no problem with it.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?

The only experience I've had is by writing Waycest and even then, it was experimental so...yeah.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)

A little odd but if they can pull it off, kudos! If not...then it's just rubbish, aye?

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?

I think it would make it less awkward, yeah? Hmm...

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I like it when it explores the minds and emotions of the two people involved in the incestuous relationship; though the physical part of it also intriges me, but I'm mostly concerned with how they manage to either keep it as a secret or tell the world about it; their reactions, thoughts, difficulties.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
as stated before, I prefer emotional incest; though not flowery writing that makes it all look as if everything is alright with the world.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)
If it works for the author and it comes out fluently and really nicely done and real, then I like it; though sometimes it can be hideous to read because of the very cliched stories that make everything too easy for the characters.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
It's really hard to shake off the image of, let's say the Way brothers, having a relationship when in real life they are related, but when done correctly, it is something rather interesting to read.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
Well, I'm mostly interested in the kind of incest that we're not talking about on this thread, like the rape or molestation/authority figure kind, so... I'm definitely not interested in promoting or eroticizing it, though. It's just something that deeply disturbs me and something that I try to comprehend and come to terms with through my writing. I do think that consensual incest stories of the kind Dru is talking about are really interesting, though. I don't think that your opinion on consensual incest in fiction/fanfiction needs to mirror your opinion on consensual incest in real life, necessarily. Unless the story you're reading is really opinionated or preachy, you could still be interested in the characters' mindsets and the complicated dynamics of the relationship in a story about an incestuous relationship despite being against the idea (at least if you're minimally open-minded!). I'll admit that the thought of real-life incest, between siblings especially, makes me a little uneasy, but I'll also admit that I couldn't tell you why. I mean, studies on morality have basically found that no one has a good reason why it's wrong for two consenting, adult siblings to have sex, provided neither of them are being harmed in any way and they're using protection, etc. etc. It's just a taboo perpetuated by society, and I think it will loosen its hold over time. I certainly don't mind reading about it... I like reading about complex issues, disturbing issues, and incest can certainly fall into that category.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
I haven't read any in a long time, but that's only because I haven't read much of anything online lately. I think I would shy away from anything that made the relationship seem too easy... If the story is set in our society, then I think it needs to explore the realities of what an incestuous relationship would be like; the realities of how the characters would feel, all while avoiding some of the cliches I remember from Waycest.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)
I like those stories; I've never made much of a distinction in my mind between fanfiction and original fiction, so to me the characters being not actually related in real life doesn't matter very much.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
I think it's kind of hard to forget that two people are actually related in real life, but again, I'm used to blurring the lines between fanfiction and fiction, and I really like it that way. So it certainly wouldn't bother me. :]

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dru's name is alice.:

I've heard a lot of people say they would be really embarassed if said famous person stumbled across their writings.

And other people saying to me (to make me feel bad about writing something, generally) what if said person stumbled across your fic.

It's sort of the same thing here. "Having sensitivity" and it's just lol-worthy to do so. I never write anything I'm ashamed of. No, I'm not going to walk up to Ryan Ross and shove my fic in his face, but if he stumbled across it I wouldn't be ashamed.

Same goes for the Way brothers (whom I've slashed together).

If you're ashamed of writing something, you probably shouldn't be writing it in the first place, no?

I agree, completely.

I should also elaborate on the "have a little sensitivity" bit. I just think it's a bit ridiculous sometimes when people throw two brothers into a relationship, and don't bother to think about the consequences. I think incest isn't something to be taken lightly, and in the hands of the right author, it can be written well. But I've come across some terrible fics which have kind of put me off the whole thing, to be honest.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I don't mind it at all. Authority figure/child, as Dru put it, is a little weird to me though unless it's an abusive fic or something like that. I think that if handled tastefully, then it can be really deep and moving and great. Oh, and I love historical romances where their cousins or the like.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
I don't really read it or write it. I think I've had a character who was in love with her cousin but that's about it.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
Same as other types. I don't have a problem with it as long as it's well done, but it's not the first thing that I'd decide to read.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
Same as above.

I think incest in both fanfiction and OF is an artistic expression, like any writing. I guess I treat it as such. I've never actiually read any incest, as far as I know... I'm not a big fan of AU stories, unless the link to the normal reality... I'm not sure why, though. I guess I think "Well, why couldn't you make your own characters?" I don't know... And personally, if the author made them un-related, I'd view that the same way as I'd view any regular story. It's an expression.

Apparently, I don't have very strong feelings on this

Cheye13:

I'm not a big fan of AU stories, unless the link to the normal reality... I'm not sure why, though. I guess I think "Well, why couldn't you make your own characters?"

I just wanted to comment on this.
Any fanfiction author, when writing properly, creates their own characters, despite the genre.
They are characters based on and inspired by people in real life (or stories, depending on fandom). But they are our own characters.
AU is the same. We are still creating our own characters based and inspired by people.
The reason I don't write original characters is because they mean absolutely nothing to me and I don't know any writers that set about to write about a character that means nothing to them, AU or not.

I think that incest can be a pretty interesting thing. There's a lot of complex emotions behind it and if an author can explore that, then kudos to them.

Unfortunately, though, most of the incest stories I've stumbled upon hasn't really been about "incest" but more about two siblings in a band having sex with each other. And, for me, it's kind of senseless. Senseless to waste such an interesting topic and just make it about sex, to throw away the emotional aspect of it or simply ignore it.

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
I don't mind it. I read it regularly and write it. I have no problem with it. It's life, it's been known to occur. Original and fanfic alike, I don't mind it whatsoever. I enjoy reading it because it's different.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
I'll read anything except parent/child or anything similar to that (grandparent/grandchild, step-parent/stepchild, etc.). I don't like that, especially if the younger one is a minor. I prefer sibling/sibling. I've read all different types and write one basic type of it. I love when there's a storyline where it's not established that they're okay with it, I like when it's wrong and they know it but they can't help it, so to say, and the story goes through the acceptance of it. Thought processes and romance and everything else. I haven't actually written one with a well-done plot like that, and most of the ones I read aren't like that. A lot of them are simple plots where things happen fast and/or it's an established relationship before the story begins.

...I'm not a fan of Waycest though. I just don't want MCR fiction, in general.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
It doesn't appeal to me. I never like where characters are related in the story but not irl.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
This is the type of style I write, so I obviously don't mind it. It even makes it easier to write, because there are fewer strings attached to worry about (since it's not *actual* incest in the story, even though the characters remain the same). I don't ever forget that the characters are related, but I've read so much of it in fanfiction already that I'm used to it. I can seperate the two fine, but I also have no problem with blurring the lines into fiction.

My current fic is written this way; the characters do not know each other from the start and have never met before in their lives, they initially despise one another and have very opposite lives (family and otherwise), but they end up together. It's like creating two new characters, because honestly, if I changed their names, it would come across the same. It's just that I like to be in the fandom.

Andreas Hudec.:

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
This is the type of style I write, so I obviously don't mind it.

I was pretty sure "Star of David" was like this, but I don't know the band well enough to remember and I didn't want to make an ass outta myself.

dru was always alice:

I was pretty sure "Star of David" was like this, but I don't know the band well enough to remember and I didn't want to make an ass outta myself.

Yes, Dru, that's how it's done. The twins are, well, twins, in real life. In the story, like I mentioned up there, they don't know each other and have never met and come from quite different backgrounds.