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  • Jewel Nicole

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    ayanasioux:
    Well... for what I'm talking about, I know it's because they don't understand but I won't say that anymore.
    You can't know that they don't understand unless they say so, because, like I've mentioned, they could just disagree with what you're saying. y'know?
    December 5th, 2010 at 04:34am
  • Ayana Sioux

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    Yeah but I'm strongly convinced with this one instance I'm talking about, they don't understand. It comes out clear when I read their comments. It would be like me trying to understand what it's like to be in prison. I could see it on TV or imagine what it's like but until I'm actually there I'll probably never fully understand. I don't think topics like that has anything to do with disagreeing but just plain out experiencing and understanding.

    But I'll try not to say it anymore.
    December 6th, 2010 at 11:56pm
  • lovecraft

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    ^They're not trying to sensor you, just stop you from being rude.

    For instance, saying "Eugh, you'll never understand this, I think you're incapable," is different from saying "I'm not sure you're understanding what I mean," because miscommunication IS a big problem with the internet.
    December 7th, 2010 at 02:14am
  • Matt Smith

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    ayanasioux:
    Yeah but I'm strongly convinced with this one instance I'm talking about, they don't understand. It comes out clear when I read their comments. It would be like me trying to understand what it's like to be in prison. I could see it on TV or imagine what it's like but until I'm actually there I'll probably never fully understand. I don't think topics like that has anything to do with disagreeing but just plain out experiencing and understanding.

    But I'll try not to say it anymore.
    The thing is, there's a difference from saying 'haha, you'll never understand' and 'I don't think you understand this issue in the same way as I do because I actually have personal experience of it, which you just don't have. Some of the things you're saying simply aren't true and I find them hurtful as a person who has experienced this issue'. The first is demeaning and unproductive, the second is much more reasonable.
    December 7th, 2010 at 12:06pm
  • Ayana Sioux

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    ^ Well, I've never say it that way. And the second is really long. What I say is something like this.
    "It's something you'll probably never understand until you actually are me," or, "Until you walk in my shoes."
    December 9th, 2010 at 02:24am
  • Kurtni

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    ayanasioux:
    ^ Well, I've never say it that way. And the second is really long. What I say is something like this.
    "It's something you'll probably never understand until you actually are me," or, "Until you walk in my shoes."
    Ok, I'm confused...
    ayanasioux:
    Hahahahaha NO.
    You definitely said it that way, and then...
    ayanasioux:
    Otherwise I would be that way and I'm not. There are plenty of other races that don't say those kinds of things the way black say it. Hispanics are even more of a minority and they don't say that kind of shit. I see them, I know them and they're proud of their cultures and they're very aware about it. You could ask any black person in America "What culture are you?" And I bet they'd say black. Black is not a culture, I don't care what anyone says. If you ask some random white person they'd probably say "Oh I'm French, German and blah blah blah" The only black people who know who they are were born somewhere in Africa or their parents were born somewhere in Africa. Hell, I don't even know what the fuck I am. But I at least I know my great grandfather is Scottish. Ain't that some shit? I only know that my great grandfather was Scottish.

    Because of the dehumanization that had taken place with African Americans in history, it causes a lot of black people to think lowly of their natural selves. It has been engraved in a lot of our minds that black and bad and ugly.
    You went on to make an incredibly long post, so I don't see how you can complain about the length of a proper reply.
    December 9th, 2010 at 03:02am
  • Ayana Sioux

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    ^ Hhh, I was upset. Don't remind me please.
    And that's explaining more than one thing.
    December 9th, 2010 at 11:14pm
  • Jewel Nicole

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    ayanasioux:
    ^ Hhh, I was upset. Don't remind me please.
    And that's explaining more than one thing.
    So? There's never an excuse to be rude, ever. If you have to write out a longer reply so that you're more courteous then do it, because it's not worth getting banned over. When you debate on here you have to expect to write out your thoughts completely because if you don't the person on the receiving end won't understand completely. You can't expect to always write one simple sentence, y'know?
    December 10th, 2010 at 04:39am
  • Insanity's Artist

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    People should realize that the reason they have you report someone is so the admins can decide if it was actually bashing. You shouldn't feel like you can't express a negative opinion, even a strong one because admins know the difference.
    July 1st, 2012 at 08:33am
  • The Doctor

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    @ Insanity's Artist
    I agree so much with this. I report if I don't know how to handle a situation and think that getting too involved in it will lead to a dispute. Sometimes, I don't even want the person I've reported to be temporarily banned at all. It's just so the admin can properly assess the situation and then warn the person if they do it again, or inform me that it is simply a miscommunication thing. Reporting people is not the wrong choice; it's actually the mature choice because it means you are deciding to hold your tongue and allow someone with higher authority the ability to take action without being blinded by the emotions that those directly involved so often tend to have.
    July 2nd, 2012 at 08:00am
  • Insanity's Artist

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    @The Doctor
    Exactly. People get so mad when you report them because they think being reported = being banned, when it doesn't. And then there are the people who are like, "Well, how am I supposed to know if I'm being insulting? If I don't mean it, I shouldn't be reported/banned," when that's exactly why reporting is there, so admins can tell you if you crossed the line or not. Reporting is much better than everyone going at each other's throats because someone always gets their feelings hurt.
    July 2nd, 2012 at 08:42pm
  • Bruinsgirl890

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    I truly believe that bashing people is bad, because I know I feel hurt when people say mean things. Although no one should take the people who say this stuff seriously
    July 23rd, 2013 at 03:35pm