Suicide

it's a complicated issue. i do think it's selfish, but as some other people have pointed out, those who do want to commit suicide, they may see other people as being selfish.
I know sometimes i have really bad days, and stuff, and i do kinda wish i could just end it but then i think "theres more to it....things have got to get better."

but i dont agree that everything has a cure, everything can be fixed. euthanasia should be an option to those who are really, really ill...terminally ill, who will just suffer if they have to wait to die.

I'm not afraid of dying. But I'm afraid of other people dying. I believe that there is something after life that I will go to, when I die. But since I know how it is to lose someone that close to your heart, I'd never commit suicide. Because really, if it's that hard to lose someone who didn't commit suicide, who died of natural[ish] causes, I couldn't even imagine what pain you must go through for suicide.

I think that's what bothers me when people say they're going to or want to commit suicide. I always end up thinking that they haven't thought it through.

...Although, if I weren't afraid of other people dying and leaving my family here to think it was their fault, there are days when I'd do it, just like that.

I have thought about suicide. It was after my Grandpa died. I was so angry at God for taking him. I tried to find some pills, but no one in my family is on meds, so I gave up on that. Drinking was out of the question. I took a knife and set the tip on my stomach. That was when I realized that I was being selfish over someone dying. I put the knife back in the drawer and went back to bed.

In my opinion, suicide is really not the answer. Yes, things must be horrible and terrible to even consider the concept. But that's life. What good is your life to the world if all your live has been just that--good? Our hardships our what define us and force us to discover who we really are. Death is forever, life isn't. So while you have the chance, I believe you should push though the hardest hardships of your life and continue living until life itself comes to kill you, not yourself.

But that's just me.

I think suicide is a type of craving for some people. It's there, it's just whether or not someone is willing to grab onto it and go through it. No, it's not the answer, but many people might not agree. Some people tell me it's the answer and the way out, so I guess it depends on your perspective.

I've thought about suicide but i could never be brave enough to do go through it. It has a lot to do with being brave, I think. Wanting to be known, even after death. I knew two totally different types of people who both tried to commit suicide. Neither actually made it, but i they weren't found they would have.

One was a boy who was always ignored. He was in my class. Now, no one ever bothered him, it was just that he was simply ignored. Like he was invisible. The teacher didn't even know it name, which in my mind, was just cruel. He tried to commit suicide for attention.

Now, I knew this girl a while back in a different school. She was not popular but definately well-known amongst her 'group'. Her dad died in a boating accident while he was on vacation. My friend knew her so she was there to concole her. But, I guess that wasn't good enough because she tried to hang herself, only to end up passing out and the rope snapping. She did it because she couldn't grieve over her dad.

There are so many reasons why people look to suicide. In my opinion, it's not the answer, but to those two people it was. I guess if you're not in the situation it can't really be debatable. I hope that makes sense, it did in my head.

ha_ha_you're_screwed:

Wanting to be known, even after death.

Sick as it sounds, if I ever got famous I would probably use suicide to my advantage. [Depending on certain things.]
Marilyn Monroe died young and beautiful and that's how we remember her.
Same with Kurt Cobain.
The more . . . dramatic the death, the longer the life after death.
Or so I see it.

druscilla;deadendkid:

ha_ha_you're_screwed:

Wanting to be known, even after death.

Sick as it sounds, if I ever got famous I would probably use suicide to my advantage. [Depending on certain things.]
Marilyn Monroe died young and beautiful and that's how we remember her.
Same with Kurt Cobain.
The more . . . dramatic the death, the longer the life after death.
Or so I see it.

That's all what The Dying Part of Suicide is about.

That in some sense, we worship those who die to young to finish what they've started...

i agree with shal
everything can be fixed and nothing can get so bad that suicide is the only answer
sure if people want to commit suicide then fine im not going to stop you because if you really feel lifes that bad to just throw it away and if your suffering that bad then i theres nothing i can do to help but i just think that people who want to do it are just being selfish because there are millions of people in the world who would kill for a life that could be like yours

the people who suffer the most want life
the people who suffer a lot and cant handle it want to throw it away
(i read that somewhere)

i don't think suicide is the way to go ever.
its a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

[thats how i see it]

no one should ever feel so bad to say, well if things get this bad, i'll just do this, or, if this happens, i can overdose, and things will be okay again.
no they wont.

you won't just be killing yourself--but your family as well. you don't know what it does to them, if you hurt yourself, and if you're one of those people who's family doesn't seem to care, find someone to talk to, a friend, or professional. anyone.

:) theres many online sources you can talk to, like the samaratians, and such, and i think once you can conquer feeling suicidal, you can manage pretty much anything else that comes along.

Brittany Bloodshed!:

its a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

i like that...very true

bats_are_my_army:

Brittany Bloodshed!:

its a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

i like that...very true

It's true but it shows how silly suicide is. A "temporary" problem. When your dead nothing can be fixed.

exactly

I agree with everything Druscilla has already said.

Kerplunk Girl:

SUICIDE IS NOT THE ANSWER.
So many people suffer everyday, but it doesn't mean they should just kill themselves.
If that was the case, most of Africa would be dead. Most of the homeless would be dead. Most of cancer patients would be dead.
You can fix things, if not, TRY and live life to the full extent.
Trust me, when you get older, things will become more clear.

Not the answer for you, perhaps.

People suffer, and they have a choice as to whether or not to end their suffering. I'm not saying every little ache and pain should be cause for suicide, but I think if diagnosed with terminal illness, or something of that nature, the option should be there.

druscilla;deadendkid:

ha_ha_you're_screwed:

Wanting to be known, even after death.

Sick as it sounds, if I ever got famous I would probably use suicide to my advantage. [Depending on certain things.]
Marilyn Monroe died young and beautiful and that's how we remember her.
Same with Kurt Cobain.
The more . . . dramatic the death, the longer the life after death.
Or so I see it.

Exactly. And many people see that as opportunity. That if they couldn't make it to their full potential, after life they could possibly do what they could never reach. And yeah, they more... gruesome the death, the more famous you are. And it's very sad, but very true. Tupac is a very good example of that.

Suicide, to me, ain't the answer. Oh sure, I've thought about it, but I would be too scared to go through with it.

"What if there is nothing else?"

I once saw a picture, with a girl holding a gun to her head, & then, I can't remember exactly but there was then like another picture of a gravestone with "Eternity awaits".

I freaked out. I was scared of dying. I'm kinda scared of the future, too. /=

"Suicides" commited by people with painful, uncurable diseases - I don't think that's terrible. I would just hate to be the family member signing the form saying it's alright.

Attention Reader.:

Suicide, to me, ain't the answer. Oh sure, I've thought about it, but I would be too scared to go through with it.

"What if there is nothing else?"

I once saw a picture, with a girl holding a gun to her head, & then, I can't remember exactly but there was then like another picture of a gravestone with "Eternity awaits".

I freaked out. I was scared of dying. I'm kinda scared of the future, too. /=

"Suicides" commited by people with painful, uncurable diseases - I don't think that's terrible. I would just hate to be the family member signing the form saying it's alright.

Yeah, I;m scared of it, too. Like, there are people on this site with pictures of people holding guns up to their head and it scares me pretty bad. Every time I see a picture like that I flinch. It's a scary prospect; death, that is.

Once again, the attitude of Mibba surprises me.
On GSB, many people (and not just in the SD forum, either) are very...pro-suicide, I guess. When I was a noob back in '05 the first major flame war I got into was with this person who was superprosuicide and didn't like me saying that it was a selfish choice and 'not the answer'. 'cause, you know, I'd always seen it as a negative thing. I still do, but being yelled at changed my perspective a bit, just as my opinions are liable to change constantly because I'm a flexible person.

Nowadays I still think the act of suicide is a wholly negative thing, because not least of all it's a painful ordeal for the person who kills themself.

bats_are_my_army:

i think that those who do kill themselves are not worthy of their life

I find that really ignorant.
I hope to God that you never become a suicide hotline councellor
because telling a suicidal person that they're selfish would be about
as helpful as pulling the trigger on them yourself.

Is suicide selfish?
In some ways, yes.
Loved ones are left behind with hurting hearts wondering why.
Then there's ofcourse death costs. [funeral, cremation, or whatever]
And what to do with all your belongings.

But, in some ways, the suicidee doesn't see that clearly.
Knowing you're going to hurt others is something that holds you back.
However, how much distress they are in changes the outcome. Or how much trouble they think they are in.

To escape immense suffering and struggles, is that so selfish?
I agree, I don't think it's the best answer.
But I don't believe suicide is selfish.

I may be cancelling my statements out with other statements but. eh.