Woman Allows 16 Year Old Daughter to Marry 51 Year Old Man

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    I agree with sunflowers.. I am completely creeped by this. Honestly, elderly people weird me out in general, I don't like being touched by them. But the thoughts of being sexually involved - oh man.
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:57am
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    So? No one's asking you to marry him. I think your statement is pretty rude.

    (And 51 is hardly elderly. The guy in the article is only three years older than Johnny Depp, whom I'd fuck in a heartbeat if we were both single.)
    June 23rd, 2011 at 01:09am
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    So? No one's asking you to marry him. I think your statement is pretty rude.

    (And 51 is hardly elderly. The guy in the article is only three years older than Johnny Depp, whom I'd fuck in a heartbeat if we were both single.)
    Who said they were? I was replying to another statement made, also to the question asked in this thread: what do I think of it? Weird.

    And there's no need to think that having a fear of something/someone is rude.
    June 23rd, 2011 at 01:14am
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    The way you worded it is what struck me as rude. You never said anything about a fear of old people, you said you were 'weirded out'.

    I mean, does this sound racist?
    Honestly, black people weird me out in general, I don't like being touched by them. But the thoughts of being sexually involved - oh man.

    Because what you said struck me as ageist.
    June 23rd, 2011 at 01:18am
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    The way you worded it is what struck me as rude. You never said anything about a fear of old people, you said you were 'weirded out'.

    I mean, does this sound racist?
    Honestly, black people weird me out in general, I don't like being touched by them. But the thoughts of being sexually involved - oh man.

    Because what you said struck me as ageist.
    I am weirded out by it. The same way I'm weirded out by spiders, rats, anything that can move quicker than me. It's weird to me.

    Now that it's clarified though, it shouldn't cause confusion. :)
    June 23rd, 2011 at 01:21am
  • LoveIsEternal

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    *sigh* againt your twisting my words into something YOU want to believe to turn it and use it agaisnt me. Go ahead have children, but Im SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD ONLY BE AWARE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN. BEING AWARE DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH DEPRIVATION OF HAVING A BABY. There do you understand that more clearly?
    June 23rd, 2011 at 05:57am
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    The way you worded it is what struck me as rude. You never said anything about a fear of old people, you said you were 'weirded out'.

    I mean, does this sound racist?
    Honestly, black people weird me out in general, I don't like being touched by them. But the thoughts of being sexually involved - oh man.

    Because what you said struck me as ageist.
    Well if that's how she feels, that's how she feels. I'm weirded out by it too - I find it creepy and I'm sorry if that's not politically correct. I'm not saying it should be illegal. Each to their own, if she is happy marrying a 51 year old man and is legal that's fine - but me personally, I wouldn't because I find it weird.
    June 23rd, 2011 at 11:13pm
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    Woah, that's kinda weird. I mean, no offence to anybody but I find this really strange. I mean if they can make it work, good for them. But it's strange.
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:18am
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    When the guy is a celebrity, and the girl is an aspiring celebrity, and it's that great of an age difference, I question how much the girl actually loves him. And even if he is an actor, she is smokin' and could do way better. I don't mean to be sexist, but this whole story just screams "teenage gold digger" to me.

    I just don't think they would have all that much to talk about anyway, unless he happens to be really immature. With my own experience of dating older guys, I've found that the 30-somethings I've met at clubs, who hit on me and my friends when we were 16-18 (and there because of fake I.Ds), and when after they found out we were like 12-15 years younger than them and were still okay with it, often proved to be either very immature, emotionally imbalanced in some way, or on drugs and living kind of a "loser" lifestyle so to say. (And that is just the U.S., I find this.)

    I'm not saying this guy is any of those, because I don't know him, I'm just saying that this is generally the case. Look, most mature winner guys who are a lot older than you aren't going to be interested in listening to you talk about Glee or the dress you bought at the mall the other day. There is a huge difference in maturity.
    June 26th, 2011 at 05:25pm
  • The Master

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    And...?

    Two people in a consenting relationship get married. Sure, the age difference is big but eh. If that's what they both want then I see no issue.
    June 27th, 2011 at 12:21am
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    You have no idea what the two feel for each other and neither do I. That's the difference between you and I is that you're claiming to know what they feel or her parents feel when you, in fact, do not, I'm claiming to know nothing.
    I'd just like to point out the fact that by making this comment, you've rendered your entire argument completely invalid. The fact that you have no idea how either party felt means that you basically have no right to suggest they are either happy, sad, being taken advantage of, underage, a pedophile, in love, or anything of the like.

    By stating that they are in love you completely disregard the other side of the argument (which is a completely valid argument) and you only stick to your views; but you have said yourself that you do not know what is actually going on.

    So therefore, to suggest that they are in love is on the same grounds as to suggest that the girl is too young to decide for herself (and that is why she needs her parents approval. Whom, by the way, should have stepped in and stopped he whole thing from happening. They should have made her wait until she was of age. If they were in love enough to get married, they would still love each other enough to wait until she could legally make the choice for herself.) and that he was a pedophilliac creep. It doesn't always happen either way. But you don't know, so you can't say one way or the other.

    Your argument only gains validity (based on your own words) if you were to accept all sides of the argument as a possibility. But if you were to accept these sides, you would have no arguement what-so-ever.
    June 27th, 2011 at 12:53pm
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    So obviously the guy has problems. I mean, okay she doesn't look sixteen, but it doesn't change the fact that she is. And to any real man the fact that she is still underage should not sit well with them. He obviously likes young girls and the girl OBVIOUSLY does not understand the full capacity of what she has gotten herself into. Especially since nowadays a few simple signatures can nullify their nuptials easy as one two three.

    The fact is that one day she will grow up and realize (like the rest of us) what she has done. She'll look back and think 'Ew, gross!' And once she's grown up, her hubby will look at her and also say 'Ew, grss!'
    June 27th, 2011 at 01:03pm
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    So obviously the guy has problems. I mean, okay she doesn't look sixteen, but it doesn't change the fact that she is. And to any real man the fact that she is still underage should not sit well with them. He obviously likes young girls and the girl OBVIOUSLY does not understand the full capacity of what she has gotten herself into. Especially since nowadays a few simple signatures can nullify their nuptials easy as one two three.

    The fact is that one day she will grow up and realize (like the rest of us) what she has done. She'll look back and think 'Ew, gross!' And once she's grown up, her hubby will look at her and also say 'Ew, grss!'
    You cannot predict the future or know how they feel. It's not a fact that she will realize what she has done, that is your opinion. And you have no evidence supporting that he has some sort of problems or whatever. Or that she 'obviously' doesn't understand what she has gotten herself into.

    You have opinions, but nothing you've written is fact.
    June 27th, 2011 at 01:33pm
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    You cannot predict the future or know how they feel. It's not a fact that she will realize what she has done, that is your opinion. And you have no evidence supporting that he has some sort of problems or whatever. Or that she 'obviously' doesn't understand what she has gotten herself into.

    You have opinions, but nothing you've written is fact.
    Ahhh... but that is the beauty of being human, isn't it? With it brings this glorioius idea of free-will. Which in turn grants us opinions. As well as sarcasm and JOKES, if you get my meaning. If you take everything so literal, then yes I have stated no factual evidence, nor do I clain to have. HOWEVER. Do i reserve the right to make a harmless joke that neither of the people who matter most to this topic will ever read? You're darn right I do.
    June 27th, 2011 at 01:52pm
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    Ahhh... but that is the beauty of being human, isn't it? With it brings this glorioius idea of free-will. Which in turn grants us opinions. As well as sarcasm and JOKES, if you get my meaning. If you take everything so literal, then yes I have stated no factual evidence, nor do I clain to have. HOWEVER. Do i reserve the right to make a harmless joke that neither of the people who matter most to this topic will ever read? You're darn right I do.
    But why join a discussion thread to make a joke and not discuss?
    June 27th, 2011 at 02:43pm
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    Look, most mature winner guys who are a lot older than you aren't going to be interested in listening to you talk about Glee or the dress you bought at the mall the other day. There is a huge difference in maturity.
    Isn't this sort of stereotypical and kind of rude? When I was in high school, I actually knew very few girls who talked about clothes and boys and TV shows all the time. Occasionally, you even get an intelligent one that's interested in politics or one that's studying to get into a good school.
    June 27th, 2011 at 05:28pm
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    ^^^Well, I meant to mention that we're all individuals, and some high schoolers can end up being much more mature than some 30-year-old's. But it kind of slipped my mind.

    I did use a bit of an extreme point, but it was just to illustrate the difference between interests of an average 16-year-old girl and a 51-year-old man.

    I don't think I am being rude at all. I didn't say anything about Glee being "bad" or shopping being an uninteresting topic of conversation. Rather, you assumed that I was saying that based on your interests and being somewhat familiar with some of mine.
    June 27th, 2011 at 05:44pm
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    I never said you were saying shopping/Glee was bad, it just seemed like a very superficial and stereotypical caricature of a teenage girl. That's what I thought was bad, not the specific hobbies you decided to name drop. (I like both shopping and Glee and I'm 24.)
    June 27th, 2011 at 06:09pm
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    Isn't this sort of stereotypical and kind of rude? When I was in high school, I actually knew very few girls who talked about clothes and boys and TV shows all the time. Occasionally, you even get an intelligent one that's interested in politics or one that's studying to get into a good school.
    To use your example and carry on her point about different interests- how many 51 year olds do you think are interested in getting into a good school? Or starting a family in a few years? Or going out partying? Or going places in groups with her friends?

    Would a 16 year old be interested in 30 year high school reunions? Retirement?

    Sometimes stereotypes are true- and even when they're not, people are going to question on what grounds a person so young and a person so much older can stand evenly.
    June 28th, 2011 at 01:48am
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    Personally, I wouldn't let my children marry someone (of any age) at sixteen. I'd want them to at least have finished high school first. I think it also depends on how mature they were. Some sixteen year olds are extremely mature and some aren't mature at all. It depends on the idividual and the families.

    I can see how a sixteen year old girl and a fifty-one year old man are different, but, hey, it could work. I believe that love has no eyes, so, who knows? Relationships can work out or not work out - it depends on the individuals in the relationship.
    June 28th, 2011 at 09:46pm