Woman Allows 16 Year Old Daughter to Marry 51 Year Old Man

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Ah, there we reach a sticky wicket. Laws such as that is not universally accepted. Indeed, the marriage laws in the States are...well, patchy. There are states in which fourteen year olds can marry.

Yeah, but those are laws which date back to the establishment of that territory becoming a state. They just haven't changed them yet, but they are still considered to be archaic.

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But in reference to my country's laws, sixteen is one of the big years and I had my own dwelling place outside the family home at this time. Whilst you state that they would not be allowed to have sex within the marital home, I have two points here.

Like a lot of people in this thread have said, age is just a number. In your country (Britain, I am assuming based on what you've written here), they treat 16-year-olds as adults and give them adult responsibilities, so that they are conditioned to mature and act like adults. In the U.S., this isn't the case. 16-year-olds are still in grade school and are still being monitored by adults in lunchrooms, as if they couldn't behave. If you don't treat someone as if they are adult and allow them responsibilities, then they don't become one.

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Firstly, sex isn't always a big factor in relationships. It can happen but as a rule of thumb, occurs less and less as the relationship gets older. Similar theories retain with the aging process (particularly for males). Being affectionate and intimate doesn't always include sexual activities.

Our country is having issues now with abstinence education vs. actual sex education in schools, and not only that, but our media tends to group affection and intimacy with sex. A lot of teens in the States wouldn't fully understand what you are getting at, given all these confusing messages and our adults' reluctance to explain the basics. Then, there are plenty of young adults who marry just because their religion says that they can't have sex until they do so.

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Secondly, American ages of consent vary quite a lot from state to state. It drops to fourteen in some states and with certain citizens it can be as low as twelve. Therefore, there are a deal of holes in which that legally, it is acceptable.

You are confusing old marriage laws and individual states' age requirements to prosecute a minor as an adult with age of consent. Most states' age of consent are 18 years. Some, like Missouri for example, are 17. It really doesn't get lower than 17 afterward.

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As for marriage, it depends what you make of it. From what I see, it is where two people decide to bond legally in order for the union to be state recognised, in order to gain certain benefits, to be able to go halfies on everything bought and to save money on heating when it's cold outside. Oh and something about love and commitment but then again, I'm a cynic. There are a billion reasons for getting married and of course it isn't going to be all sunshine and daisies and all the cliché rom-com toss-pottery that is spewed out by media. It can go well or it can all go to shit and that's what divorce is for.

That is actually how I see marriage as well, add in that it's two people who would like to grow old together and be life partners for the rest of their lives.

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I did look at the article and what struck me was she doesn't look sixteen. She looks older than me and I'm twenty-one. The only way that she could look sixteen was as if she was cast in some rubbish horror film set in a high school where it is always so obvious that they look about thirty.

I just saw a new photo of her actually, and she obviously has breast implants. You can't give a 16-year-old breast implants in the U.S. No doctor would do such a thing because it is potentially dangerous, as breasts do not stop developing until age 18-21. Breast augmentation is very risky, not just the surgery, but the anesthesia itself carries its own risks. If she is 16, I think it is worse that her mother let her get breast implants than this marriage thing.

And for some reason, when I tried to quote the original message, it would either quote the message directly above it or directly below it and there was no button to quote the message I needed. So I understand if this is confusing.

I have a really hard time believing that she is 16 years old.
All of the pictures I have seen make me think she's at least in her late 20's.

And the age of consent here in Georgia is actually 16...
One of the girls at work got married at 16, and of course, her mom had to sign for her, but they've been together for three years...and he's a few years older than her.

^She is sixteen, they were on Good Morning America and everything.

Jewel Nicole:

^She is sixteen, they were on Good Morning America and everything.

Yeah, I know they said they had her birth certificate and everything, but she looks older then me, and I'm 20. I didn't know they were on there, as I don't get to watch morning shows.

I still have a hard time believing it....maybe it's just me...

^ Some people look older, though. I'm 19 and I got mistaken for someone over 25, the other week (still can't see it, myself). On that topic, however, I think he looks way younger than 51. They actually look relatively similar in age. I wouldn't estimate more than a 9 year age gap between them, if I had to guess.

I don't see how that impacts much though, because what's inside matters more in a marraige. They seem like pretty similar people but she definitely doesn't seem mature enough to be in a marraige. I wish them the best and hope it all works out for them and that they can be happy together.

I was on another site and someone posted an interview with some people claiming to be her neighbors, and they say she's 25 or 26 at least.

Arcana Hereticae:

I was on another site and someone posted an interview with some people claiming to be her neighbors, and they say she's 25 or 26 at least.

The mere fact that they are "some people claiming" kind of indicates that it's not that good of a source.

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Yeah, but all of that is still just "some people" claiming one thing or another. None of it comes from her and none of it has any real substance. I mean, I can also say that "ehm, I ran into her once two years ago and then she was definitely 14!" It doesn't make it more believable. I agree that she doesn't look 16, but I'm not going to believe otherwise because some neighbor said so to some online magazine or whatever that site was.

Arcana Hereticae:

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I really wouldn't consider "awfulplasticsurgery.com" a source.

WalkingOnBrokenGlass:

Yeah, I know they said they had her birth certificate and everything, but she looks older then me, and I'm 20. I didn't know they were on there, as I don't get to watch morning shows.

I still have a hard time believing it....maybe it's just me...

I wouldn't go off what someone looks like as a definitive basis for their age. I always get mistaken for younger, sometimes as young as sixteen or eighteen. It doesn't mean I'm not twenty-four.

sadodruscillaism.:

I wouldn't go off what someone looks like as a definitive basis for their age. I always get mistaken for younger, sometimes as young as sixteen or eighteen. It doesn't mean I'm not twenty-four.

I know, but still...and I get mistaken for being younger all the time too, but
maybe it's because it just seems so creepy to me, and I just don't want to believe she's actually 16. I want to believe in those pictures, she is older than what she says she is.
I mean, he's old enough to be my dad....
I want to believe love knows no age, but there's a huge difference between a 16 year old and a 51 year old.

I just...I don't know...

Quintessential Bella:

Yeah, but all of that is still just "some people" claiming one thing or another. None of it comes from her and none of it has any real substance. I mean, I can also say that "ehm, I ran into her once two years ago and then she was definitely 14!" It doesn't make it more believable. I agree that she doesn't look 16, but I'm not going to believe otherwise because some neighbor said so to some online magazine or whatever that site was.

I am basing my opinon less off what someone said and more on the amount of plastic surgery she looks like she's had. In America, it is really hard to find a plastic surgeon who would operate on someone younger than 18, sometimes even 21 as that is considered unethical. It could be possible that she went to another country to have it done (like somewhere in Central America, for example, because people do that if plastic surgeons refuse to see them), but it just isn't likely that she would be able to get plastic surgery at 16, even with parental permission.

^ Just because she looks like she's had plastic surgery, doesn't mean she has. Angelina Jolie looks like she's had plastic surgery, she hasn't. Besides, there are such things as extensions, push-up bras, fake tan, copious amounts of make-up and airbrushing that are all available to under-18's.

Arcana Hereticae:

I am basing my opinon less off what someone said and more on the amount of plastic surgery she looks like she's had. In America, it is really hard to find a plastic surgeon who would operate on someone younger than 18, sometimes even 21 as that is considered unethical. It could be possible that she went to another country to have it done (like somewhere in Central America, for example, because people do that if plastic surgeons refuse to see them), but it just isn't likely that she would be able to get plastic surgery at 16, even with parental permission.

It's based on the assumption that she's had plastic surgery, not the fact that she has, because we don't know. Even IF that assumption is correct the opinion is also an assumption that she wouldn't be allowed to have plastic surgery if she wasn't 18 or 21 yet.

Well, if you look at the before and after pictures on the link I posted a couple days ago, her cheeks and nose look drastically different in both pictures.

In the headshot pageant picture, her nose is flat, whereas in the recent photo, her nose is now pointed and pushed upward. Her cheeks are also now higher than they were in the pageant picture.

Also, you can tell fake boobs from real boobs, because fake boobs have an odd shape to them which doesn't look natural. I saw a different picture with the view being pointed down her shirt and her boobs do not look real.

None of that is evidence though. And even IF it is, it's not evidence of the fact that she can't be 16.

LoveIsEternal:

*sigh* againt your twisting my words into something YOU want to believe to turn it and use it agaisnt me. Go ahead have children, but Im SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD ONLY BE AWARE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN. BEING AWARE DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH DEPRIVATION OF HAVING A BABY. There do you understand that more clearly?

First of all, I think you need to spell check your posts because I don't understand some of the words you're saying.

I think all of your arguments are wrong; you act like you know what the 51-year-old man is thinking, and what the 16-year-old girl is thinking. You don't know them personally, and even if you did, you aren't in their bodies, you aren't THEM. You're you, and you don't know what they're thinking or feeling. They might be crazily in love, or they might be growing to be in love. There are so many possibilities that you don't know about. I think your arguments are invalid.

I wouldn't let my child marry a 51-year-old man, though. I would want her to look for more fish in the sea, someone who's no more than 30 years old.

I think this entire situation is pretty sad. To me, it's just another obvious case of parents doing anything to make their children "famous." The guy she's marrying is some d-lister actor and she's an aspiring singer (which is laughable when looking at her first "music video"). I think it's just a ploy - on her and her parents part - to gain recognition for her.

There's so much wrong with this. From her age - not the age difference itself, but the fact that she's just sixteen - to fact that they couldn't have known each other very long. I mean, I would understand a sixteen year old getting married to someone she's known for years (perhaps someone she's known since childhood). But this is someone she couldn't have known longer for a year. And if she has known him long, how old would she have been? 15? 14? 13? Would he be anything other than a pedophile if that were the case?

I just...I don't see it as a real marriage and I don't think there's any chance they'll be together for any serious amount of time - especially if she doesn't get "famous" soon.

Dexterous Monkey:

I think this entire situation is pretty sad. To me, it's just another obvious case of parents doing anything to make their children "famous." The guy she's marrying is some d-lister actor and she's an aspiring singer (which is laughable when looking at her first "music video"). I think it's just a ploy - on her and her parents part - to gain recognition for her.

There's so much wrong with this. From her age - not the age difference itself, but the fact that she's just sixteen - to fact that they couldn't have known each other very long. I mean, I would understand a sixteen year old getting married to someone she's known for years (perhaps someone she's known since childhood). But this is someone she couldn't have known longer for a year. And if she has known him long, how old would she have been? 15? 14? 13? Would he be anything other than a pedophile if that were the case?

I just...I can't even take this seriously. I don't see it as a real marriage and I don't think there's any chance they'll be together for any serious amount of time - especially if she doesn't get "famous" soon.

I agree. Even if she said she "truly loves him," I wouldn't exactly believe the whole truth...
Well, maybe she did truly love him, but I wouldn't think that it would be suitable. She could get called so many names at school like previous users pointed out, she probably won't have a normal life (with all the other students and maybe even desperate photographers), and marrying someone that was 35 years younger than you? I wouldn't allow it.