Deleting Story/Poem Comments

I agree that some users would probably abuse this privilege. Maybe users could have the ability to delete their own comments within the first few minutes of it being posted. That way they have a chance to get rid of their comment if they decide they don't want it on there with a decreased likelihood of people seeing it. After that, they'd have to go to an admin/mod/editor to get it deleted.

I say this because I think if someone posts something offensive, realizes it, and decides they don't want it on there, they have a chance to take it off before someone else sees it. While it shouldn't have been posted in the first place, they may have decided their comment wasn't worth the potential consequences. If it's deleted within the first one or two minutes of it being posted, the likelihood of it being seen is really slim.

@ paper sirens.
If we didn't have the edit option I think that would be pretty good idea. However, if someone posts something offensive and then realizes what they've said they can easily go back and edit out the whole comment (leaving it just saying [Click to edit.]) or rewrite what they've said so it's no longer offensive.

@ Doe.
Oh, yes. That slipped my mind. But doesn't Dujo still have a record of the original post?

@ paper sirens.
Hmm... to be honest, I have no idea. If he does, he would still have that original post even if the user deleted it.

@ Doe.
Hm, true. I suppose without that information, my suggestion is no longer necessary. Carry on!

@ Doe.
@ paper sirens.
Dujo has the original comments, before and after the edit.

castiel's vessel:

I think that would make it work. Or even story editors able to delete story comments, article editors article comments, etc., with the admin being able to delete comments from all sections. That way if you double, triple or comment five times on one story accidentally you could easily message a story editor to delete it for you instead of the admin being bombarded extra with requests to delete comments.

I like this idea the best. I get a lot of messages asking me to delete comments on stories and it'd be nice to actually be able to do that.

@ losing control.
If we could make it work, then it would be great.

YES. CAN THIS BE A THING?? Ugh step up your stuff Mibba

-if a moderator sees this please don't ban me i love this website-

Users deleting their own comments is a maybe from me. Users deleting other user's comments?

No, absolutely not. Even if I accidentally double or triple comment on something, it is my business to delete those comments.

@ CallusedSilk
Yeah, I'm kinda iffy about it, too. I mean, it'd be nice to get rid of double+ comments, but not by someone else and I don't think regular users should have the ability because I could see how this would be abused.

So I'm all for staff members having this ability for the section that they moderate, like castiel's vessel said.

castiel's vessel:

Or even story editors able to delete story comments, article editors article comments, etc., with the admin being able to delete comments from all sections. That way if you double, triple or comment five times on one story accidentally you could easily message a story editor to delete it for you instead of the admin being bombarded extra with requests to delete comments.

@ pallid
Yeah but then you have to realize that they will be getting massive upon massive amounts of messages. It would be so much easier if we could delete our own stuff. I would love to be able to delete my double + posts. I don't want to bother a moderator or whom ever, every few minutes because my phone sucks lol.

But all in all I do think it would be a good idea if they have the privilege but only to a certain point, so that people don't abuse it.

@ Albluerose
What is a "certain point"? Only deleting our own comments? Because that opens the door to people bashing and insulting other users and then deleting what they said so that the staff can't see the comment, but still get away with bashing that user who might have seen the comment and been hurt by it. And if the comments are allowed to be deleted by everyone, that means that Dujo can no longer see the original comment because once it's gone, it's gone, whereas if someone bashes and then edits their comment he can see the original comment and they can still face the warning and possible ban for that bashing.

And with double comments, I'm pretty sure if the staff had that ability, if they came across double comments in stories or poems, they'd get deleted without having to be asked. And like everything with the staff, each comment would have to be logged to make sure there's no abuse of power.

@ castiel's vessel
Another idea that could work is that I know that kind of like there's a report button (it doesn't currently work right now, but not the point), maybe adapt that and make it work so that people can click that so that it goes into a database showing what needs to be deleted? I'm only saying that because not all comment sections are looked at by staff. That way the stuff that gets overlooked could still alert staff to delete items and it could be easily put into a log or whatever that needs to happen for staff.

Albluerose:

@ pallid
Yeah but then you have to realize that they will be getting massive upon massive amounts of messages. It would be so much easier if we could delete our own stuff. I would love to be able to delete my double + posts. I don't want to bother a moderator or whom ever, every few minutes because my phone sucks lol.

But all in all I do think it would be a good idea if they have the privilege but only to a certain point, so that people don't abuse it.

I honestly don't think 90% of the staff would mind having a few extra PMs to deal with per day. We're already the first port-of-call for most when it comes to site problems and most of us have to deal with several PMs per week anyway. A few more on top of that isn't going to hurt. And as people keep pointing out, we're here and chose to have these positions on the site. If we're not willing to do a little more to make the site better, then there isn't much of a point in us having those positions.

Honestly, I think that as with everything (the deactivate button being the prime example of this) the ability to delete your own comments would be abused by a very small number of people and would ruin the system for everyone. The deactivate button had to be removed and I could see the same sort of thing happening for this sort of thing -- like castiel's vessel said above, it just opens up the possibility to bash and then delete the comments.

I'm all for us having a way of deleting double+ comments, but I reckon it should be something kept to the staffers of relevant areas (story editors could delete story double comments, blog mods the blog ones, etc.) or even just to the admins. It seems to be a silly way to do it and it will cause a second step to have to be implemented, but I don't think we could have it on the site without a very small minority ruining it for others and I'd rather have something in place, even if it does mean contacting a staff member to have it actioned.

@ CallusedSilk
I do agree with this. I mean, the report button hasn't worked for a long time, but it'd be helpful to have the report button work. But at the same time, if the staff miss a section with comments that need deleting, users could always message and if they can deal with it, they'll deal with it, and if not they'll send it to a different staffer who could.

@ castiel's vessel
True, but especially with fast moving threads/story comment sections, it might be easier to just have a report section that leads directly to that message, you know? I mean, I know on some forums you can click the time it was posted and have a direct link to that comment, but I only know the direct link to that comment if I'm alerted to a reply to my comment. So then people have to message a staffer with 'Delete my double post please' and remember to specify that it's on page 2 or page 30 or something. I mean, arguably it should be able to get done quickly, but I know some people that are story editors that end up with like, a lot of messages that they have to go through so that message could get buried.

@ CallusedSilk
To get the exact link of something, all you should have to do is click the link button at the bottom of the post. It changes the URL to the one of that exact post. Not exactly related to the discussion, but I figured it'd be helpful to let you know.

I'd love it if the report buttons worked and we could do that. Personally, I think it would make life so much easier but I don't know how long it'd be until the reporting system is up and running (far as I'm aware, Dujo is the only one with access to that stuff) so it'd be nice to have something in place temporarily while we're waiting on that system being put in place.

@ nearly witches.
Oh, thank you. Now that you've pointed out the link thing, I'm going over it.

Dujo probs is the only one with access to the stuff, which is probably good on some level, but it can be frustrating.

@ CallusedSilk
I only managed to figure out what it did like 2 weeks ago so I wouldn't be too harsh over it.

It definitely is. I can kind of see where he's coming from with it though. If I had built a website, I'd hate it if people went in ans started messing with the code. We've got people on staff who I'm sure could fix issues, but each person has their own way of coding. Either way, I definitely reckon we should have something set up for deleting comments and the suchlike, even just until Dujo has the time to fix up the reporting system.