U.S. Presidential Race

  • May Lewis

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    For better or worse, the 2016 election season has already begun in the United States. The thread is for any discussion on the candidates or the race itself.

    Some Questions You Might Have:
    -Who's Running? What do they support?
    -How do I vote in my state for the primary and for the general election? What's absentee voting?
    -How do I become involved with campaigning for a candidate?
    -How do you feel about the practices of people's campaigns? Do you feel that they're shady or that campaigns are being conducted more honestly?

    First, I thought I'd list all of the major candidates I can think of that have currently announced(Feel free to add to this list):

    Democratic Party:
    -Hillary Clinton: Clinton is by far the front runner at this point in the election for the Democratic Nominee. She is a former Secretary of State, as well as United States Senator for New York. She was also active in the political scene during her husband's time as governor and later president and prior to that she was an accomplished lawyer. She has the highest name recognition of any candidate in the race so far. She was critical of the Bush Tax Cuts and was a supporter of the 2008 stimulus package. She supports seeking new ways to conserve energy and believes that climate change is serious issue that we should make an effort to solve. She would like to repeal NAFTA, supports raising the minimum wage, and does not support a completely free market. On money in Politics: She is an supporter of campaign reform, but believes that in the current state of American politics, she believes it is necessary to use SuperPACs. She is hoping to raise as much as $2.5 billion for this campaign. The biggest contributors to her campaign or Goldman Sachs and Citibank. Clinton is pro-Israel, has a rank of D- with the Americans for Better Immigration, support the Iran nuclear deal, and believes the Iraq war was a mistake. Hillary Clinton supports reinstating the assault weapons ban. She believes widely available birth control and sex education and is pro-choice. She supports gay marriage.
    -Bernie Sanders: Bernie Sanders is a United States Senator for Vermont, a former U.S. Representative, and a former mayor. He was long been a Independent and is a self-described democratic socialist. On the economy: Bernie Sanders has long been outspoken on growing income inequality. He believes that the best way to combat economic issues is to make it easier for people to vote and give them back their voice in the political arena. He has said that he believes grassroots movements to be extremely important and he will not use SuperPACs in his political campaign, choosing instead to rely on small donations from voters. He believes in raising the marginal tax rate for the wealthiest Americans, joking that "When radical socialist Dwight D. Eisenhower was president, I think that the highest marginal tax rate was something like 90 percent." On health care: Bernie Sanders supports a single payer Universal Health Care system. He voted for Obamacare, but believes that it is only an intermediate measure and we should move forward on a single payer system eventually. On social issues: he supports gay marriage and is pro-choice. On education: he has recently made wave by saying the college should be free. On foreign policy: he supports the Iran Nuclear deal, he opposes NAFTA and similar trade agreements.
    Martin O'Malley: O'Malley is a former governor of Maryland and a former mayor of Baltimore. He is running as a progressive alternative to Hillary Clinton. As governor he signed gay marriage into law and made undocumented immigrants eligible for in state tuition. He has faced criticism over raising taxes including implementing a so-called "rain tax" and is accused of being partially responsible for the current situation in Baltimore due to his tough on crime stance as mayor of Baltimore. O'Malley opposes the death penalty, supports restrictions on gun rights, and supports focusing on the environment.

    Republican Candidates:
    Ted Cruz: Ted Cruz is a United States senator from Texas and a former solicitor general. He is considered a Tea Party favorite and is a Harvard educated lawyer. On reproductive rights: he believes that companies can deny to provide birth control to its employees and he opposes public abortion funding. On the economy: he believes in a free market economy and opposes raising the minimum wage. On gay marriage: he opposes gay marriage and believes the state's definition of marriage should supersede the federal governments. On crime: He supports the death penalty. On education: he opposes Common Core and supports education decisions made at the local level. On gun control: he opposes second amendment restrictions. On immigration: he does not support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. He believes that God has a place in the public sphere. Cruz supports lowering taxes. On foreign policy: Cruz believes that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan went on too long, supports sanctions on Russia, and believes we should "bomb ISIS back to the Stone Age".
    Rick Santorum: Rick Santorum is a former senator of Pennsylvania and former U.S. Representative. He is known as a family values conservative. On abortion: he is prolife with exceptions for rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother. On the economy: he supported Bush Tax Cuts, he has a pro-business voting record. On civil rights: he believes flag burning should be a federal crime, he supports a constitutional ban on gay marriage, believes a crime motivated by homophobia should not be considered a hate crime and opposes employment nondiscrimination for sexual orientation. On trade: he supports free trade. On health care: he opposes Obamacare. Many of his stances are about 15 years old. His views may have changed.
    Mike Huckabee: He is the former governor of Arkansas and political commentator. He is another family values conservative. He is prolife, supports the death penalty, is against gay marriage, and believes it is women's responsibility to pay for abortion not the government. He supports a free market economy. On education: he opposes Common Core, he believes prayer has a place in schools, and believes in abstinence only education. He is outspoken against what he sees as an increasingly immoral society. He believes Islamic terrorism is the United States biggest problem. He opposes restriction on the second amendment.
    Marco Rubio: He is a United States senator from Florida. He is prolife, opposes ENDA, and believes states should define marriage. He opposed the bank bailout. He doesn't believe the government can or should stop climate change. He supports a free market. He doesn't support restrictions on gun rights. He supports air strikes on ISIS and Syria.
    Ben Carson: Dr. Ben Carson is a doctor and political commentator. He has never held a political office. He is prolife, supports the free market, opposes affirmative action, opposes same sex marriage, and believes in U.S. superiority. He opposes restrictions on gun rights and opposes Obamacare.
    Carly Fiorina: She is the former CEO from Hewett Packard. She has never held political office. She is prolife, opposes the stimulus package, opposes same sex marriage, opposes ENDA, supports the death penalty, wants to weaken the EPA, opposes the Iran Nuclear Deal. She opposes restrictions on gun rights.
    Lindsay Graham: He is a United States Senator from South Carolina and a former U.S. Representative. He is prolife, opposes the separation of church and state, and has pro-gun rights voting record. He supported the economic stimulus package in 2008 and believes in abstinence only education. He opposes Obamacare. He supports the Patriot Act and believes that something should be done with regards to Benghazi.
    George Pataki: He was a former governor of New York. He is prochoice, oppose gay marriage, but support other gay rights, and supports gun control. He believes we should add more money for the drug war and supports the death penalty. He opposes Obamacare.
    Rand Paul: He is a United States Senator from Kentucky. He identifies as a libertarian. He is prolife, he believes same sex marriage is a states' rights issue, and supports gun rights. He supports a free market. He is a strong supporter of fair trials and opposes illegal searches. He has been a vocal opponent of the Patriot Act. He opposes the war on drugs. He believes it is the Iraqi government's job to lead the fight on ISIL and opposes military action in Syria, Iran, Russia, Ukraine, and North Korea saying that the United States is too eager about going into war.
    May 31st, 2015 at 10:26pm
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    I'm actually really shocked no one has come onto this thread and started a discussion. I haven't been active on Mibba in ages and I decided to come to the forums specifically to find a presidential race discussion.

    Anywho, by now, I'm sure you're all aware of the two main candidates for this election is Democratic Nominee Secretary Hillary Clinton and Republican Nominee Donald Trump. We also have several third party candidates from the Libertarian Party (Gary Johnson) and from the Green Party (Jill Stein).

    I'm voting for Hillary Clinton. Out all of the candidates who are on the ballot, in my opinion, she is the one whose views and ideas that I agree with most. I personally can't fathom the idea of Trump becoming POTUS. After watching the debate, I don't think he's qualified at all to hold such a high position of power. He, to me, is a racist as well as a sexist... I think if he wins the nomination that it could be potentially dangerous for the American people - and that absolutely terrifies me.
    October 3rd, 2016 at 01:01am
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    @ Jewel Nicole
    Dude I totally agree!! I watched the debate the other night and I was shocked. he was being so rude and disrespectful. At least Hillary handled his attacks well.

    but I'm not voting for him either. We can't have him as President. He's not fit for it. We would end up going into WW3 tbh. He just isn't fit. Plus his views on women are disgusting. I can't believe people actually support him.
    October 11th, 2016 at 07:22pm
  • cannibal.

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    I'm not even voting this year. The election is a battle between the lesser of two evils with other candidates that never stood a chance against them and I don't want to be involved with it.
    October 12th, 2016 at 08:31pm
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    @ cannibal.
    I highly recommend you vote. I understand how you can feel frustrated, but not having a voice at all isn't the smart option either. Besides, it's not just the presidency that's going to be on the ballot. A lot of ballot measures are going up and also local government seats that are going to be filled. This is your one shot for your voice to be heard. Your one shot. After that, if you're unhappy with the outcome of the election then what can you really say about it?

    I'm upset about our options too, but I'm not going to give up my rights nor am I giving up my voice because of it. I will forever be upset that Bernie Sanders isn't the democratic nominee, but I'm not going to sit by and let Donald Trump win the highest office in this nation without a fight. I'm not going to sit by and let the governor of state as well as senate seats for my state get chosen without my input.

    Check the ballot measures in your area. Even if you leave the presidential items blank (which I highly discourage), there might be other things you do feel are clean cut.

    Although honestly, if you're waiting for a clean cut choice in politics then you'll be waiting a long time.
    October 14th, 2016 at 03:19am
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    @ CallusedSilk
    I agree with this a lot. I wasn't going to vote either, but then I decided that maybe I should. If you're not voting, you could be letting Donald Trump win. and I refuse to see that happen. It's going to be an interesting election though.
    October 14th, 2016 at 05:40pm
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    @ cannibal.
    Not voting is indistinguishable from political apathy, and I highly doubt that you don't care about who will be running the US for the next four years. The fact that you mentioned the concept of the lesser of two evils seems to me to imply that it's a pretty easy choice to make.
    October 15th, 2016 at 03:08am
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    @ CallusedSilk
    I've been sitting here for a good ten minutes now trying to come up with something to respond with but all I can offer is that I understand your points and reasoning. I'm not political by any means and I'm sorry.

    @ svefn-gengar
    cannibal.:
    I'm not even voting this year. The election is a battle between the lesser of two evils with other candidates that never stood a chance against them and I don't want to be involved with it.
    I said I didn't want to be involved not that I didn't care. The two don't always go hand in hand. As for the lesser evil mention, that wasn't me implying that I favored one more than the other because I would rather vote for a piece of bread. Neither of them belong in office and I grouped them together as what they are.
    October 15th, 2016 at 09:43pm
  • Jewel Nicole

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    I hope this election encourages more people to go out and vote. I hope they realize it truly is important. It makes me sad that people refuse to go out and vote because they don't think that it will matter. Not voting doesn't equal change....voting does.

    Did you all vote in the primaries?

    According to the New York Times, only 9% of eligble voters chose Clinton and Trump.

    Also, all of these new reports against Trump for sexually assaulting numerous women and the fact that he's made horrible comments towards many women in general makes me believe these women even more... I hope Hillary blows him out of the water.
    October 16th, 2016 at 03:49am
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    @ CallusedSilk
    I'm just going to leave this here because I feel like it sort of goes together with what you were trying to say. I'm a visual personal, always have been, so photos and videos like this are easier for me to understand. Letters, typed up paragraphs, etc don't register correctly in my brain. It's always been an issue.

    Back on topic though, it has changed how I'm seeing the election. I still don't want to but the chances of me begrudgingly voting anyhow are much higher. This is only the second time I've had to and if I can sigh dramatically voting for either Romney or Obama then I can do the same here and still sleep fine at night.

    * Links to facebook. I also assumed the video might be nice for others to see as well.
    October 16th, 2016 at 04:30pm
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    @ cannibal.
    I understand that and in the future I'll also offer attempt to find visual representation as well, although I'm a very wordy person so it's a little hard for me.

    Honestly, Romney and Obama was the last example of a basically clear cut choice I've ever seen in our political sphere. Granted, I also see the choice between Trump and Clinton as extremely clear cut so I'm definitely biased.

    Vote because it's your one chance at a voice.
    Vote because people died for you to be able to do this.
    Vote because our right as women to vote is less than 100 years old, even younger still if you're not white.
    Vote because there are people who still think that we as a women shouldn't have the right to vote.

    I don't care who you vote for. Just get out there and vote. It's less than an hour out of one day in November.

    @ Jewel Nicole
    I personally did vote in the primary. It was incredibly close in my state. Less than 1% difference between Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton. Same for Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. If Bernie had gotten like, I think like 1000 more votes then he would have won my state for the democratic ticket. I personally voted for Bernie so was very disappointed in the lack of turnout.
    October 16th, 2016 at 05:05pm
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    I personally did vote in the primary. It was incredibly close in my state. Less than 1% difference between Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton. Same for Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. If Bernie had gotten like, I think like 1000 more votes then he would have won my state for the democratic ticket. I personally voted for Bernie so was very disappointed in the lack of turnout.
    Yeah, I voted too. I was incredibly sad with the turnout as well. Less than one percent between Bernie and Hillary....wow... that's incredible. Here, Hillary had 65% and Bernie had 33%. And Cruz beat Trump 43.76% to 26.75%. I'm in Texas so, I'm not too surprised that Trump didn't win my state.

    I also feel like this election has really brought out the worst in people and I don't want to be biased but I feel like it's coming more from those who support Trump...
    October 17th, 2016 at 12:31am
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    @ Jewel Nicole
    Yeah. I live in Missouri and it was so fucking close. Hillary Clinton got 49.6% (310,602) of the vote and Bernie got 49.4% (309,071). Donald Trump got 40.9% (382,093) and Ted Cruz got 40.7% (380,367).

    Like, I'm still just shaking my head over those numbers. That's so fucking close. So I was wrong, actually. It was less than half a percent difference. And I know that like half the people at my work, at least, did not show up for the primary.
    October 17th, 2016 at 01:47am
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    @ CallusedSilk

    Yeah, mostly everyone that I know didn't vote in the primaries either. It's so disappointing that people aren't more involved .. Sad
    October 17th, 2016 at 02:57am
  • Brittt

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    Did anyone else watch the third and final debate tonight? Thoughts?
    October 20th, 2016 at 05:01am
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    @ Khloe Kardash

    I watched it. I thought, in the beginning, that Trump was handling himself well, but that didn't last long until he started being his typical obnoxious self. Facepalm This election, I feel, is going to really divide America. I think that Trump was pretty much attacking her most of the time. Instead of discussing the issues, like always, he drifted away from the question by babbling on about something else. Ridiculous.

    He pretty much admitted to not paying taxes by saying something along the lines of "Well, I did what I did because the laws allowed it." He also says he wants to build this wall and deport all of the illegal immigrants, but, like Hillary pointed out, he hired illegal immigrants to build the Trump Tower. His personality terrifies me. I don't know, the thought of him in the White House making very important decisions - decisions that need serious and extensive planning. He can't even debate properly - he and the host were going back and forth because he just wouldn't stop. It was hard to watch and it embarrasses me to think he could possibly be the new face of America. Even in the closing argument, instead of focusing on himself and why HE would be the best choice all he did was attack her. That's the only strategy he has. Blame someone else. He doesn't take responsibility.

    I know Hillary has changed her mind in the past about certain issues, but I also truly believe that she has evolved for the greater good. She has admitted that some of her actions were not the best decisions, but she has America's best interest at heart. I can tell it by the way she speaks and how she presents herself; she's extremely passionate and she doesn't demean people the way Donald does. She also handles herself well and is very professional; I think it's something to admire. She's highly intelligent and she knows what it takes to take on such a position. I really hope that she takes this election because to me, she's the obvious better choice.
    October 20th, 2016 at 05:47am
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    @ Jewel Nicole

    In the beginning, he did great. He was able to stay on the topic for a little while. But then he just started going on about things that had nothing to do with the topic. I was like ??? and he didn't look very interested to be there. He looked like he'd rather be asleep.

    I'm impressed with how well Hillary handled the election. I know a lot of the Trump Supporters say she's a liar and blah blah blah. But she really won me over in the debates last night, so she has my vote. And Trump just seemed to be attacking her for every little thing. He certainly didn't stay on topic at all.

    Then there's the comment he made about whether or not he'd accept the election results. "I'll keep everyone in suspense" like what is that supposed to mean? Everyone knows that he doesn't pay his taxes. He says he does but that's a load of shit. it was admitted ages ago that he doesn't pay taxes. Then he denied making fun of disabled people? like please, the video is online.

    He really didn't talk about what he'd do for America at all. All he did was attack Hillary. We can't have him as President at all. He's obviously not fit and doesn't have a clue what he's doing. He can't even handle debates properly and it's sad.

    Hillary will make a great President. She handled his comebacks very well and didn't stoop down to his level. Unlike him she stayed on topic and it was impressive. The comment she made about him being a puppet was entertaining though.
    October 20th, 2016 at 04:46pm
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    I am ashamed of this country.
    November 9th, 2016 at 02:02pm
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    I am terrified of what's going to happen next come 2017. I don't even know what to say. I'm shocked and disgusted all at once. Nice job America.
    November 9th, 2016 at 03:41pm
  • Jewel Nicole

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    I am ashamed of this country.
    The system is just messed up. She has (so far) 330,000+ more votes than him. She got the popular vote. I hate the electoral college.
    November 11th, 2016 at 02:12am