Transexual/Transgender rights

A Mexican congressman said Thursday he will submit a bill in March that would amend the country's constitution to guarantee the rights of transsexuals and change civil laws to ensure that they can legally change their name and gender. David Sánchez Camacho's bill would insert a paragraph into Article 4 of the Mexican constitution stating that ''every person has the right to the recognition and free exercise of their gender identity and their gender expression.''

Article 4 currently guarantees equal rights for women and men and states the rights of children and families, but it does not mention gays, lesbians, or transsexuals. A transsexual is a person who has undergone a sex-change operation or whose sexual identification does not correspond with the gender at birth.

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Also, forgive me for not having any specifics at the moment, what do you think of transgenders/transexuals being forced to say they have a "disease" to obtain the chemicals they need to get breasts, etc?

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I think it's wrong that they should have to say they're diseased. Sometimes your brain and what's between your legs don't match. It's not a disease. It's a problem that can be easily remedied, whether by sex change or simply be being who you are.

I agree

For what other reason to people need breast hormones, though?

I mean, if you really want to be shallow about it, a disease is an incorrectly functioning organ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disease
And a transgenders breasts are incorrectly functioning, because they haven't grown. So the hormones are there to correct something that is wrong, I guess, and to make it right.

Assuming you live in a country with free healthcare, also, I think that anyone who complains about having to claim 'disease' is very ungrateful indeed. I mean, you're getting the drugs for free, don't throw a hissy fit. Of course, its different if you have to pay.

Bloodraine:

For what other reason to people need breast hormones, though?

I mean, if you really want to be shallow about it, a disease is an incorrectly functioning organ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disease
And a transgenders breasts are incorrectly functioning, because they haven't grown. So the hormones are there to correct something that is wrong, I guess, and to make it right.

Assuming you live in a country with free healthcare, also, I think that anyone who complains about having to claim 'disease' is very ungrateful indeed. I mean, you're getting the drugs for free, don't throw a hissy fit. Of course, its different if you have to pay.

I think it's wrong to make a person say they have a disease.
It's not a disease.
It would be like making a homosexual say their homosexuality is a disease.

druscilla.:

I think it's wrong to make a person say they have a disease.
It's not a disease.
It would be like making a homosexual say their homosexuality is a disease.

I'm not disabled yet I have to fill out a form to the government saying I am, because if I do I get money for some medical condition. Its just the way things work; yes, it sucks, but sometimes you have to stoop to some level to get what you want. Some systems are stupid.

I don't think being transexual is a disease. I think that if people are allowed to have breast transplants, then they should be allowed to have vaginas and penises if they want. o_o

I mean, being transgendered is a big enough burden on anyone. I think if someone is willing to go through all that, they deserve some respect.

But still it shouldn't be considered a disease.

insert name here:

But still it shouldn't be considered a disease.

i agree...

why not? Why is transgender-ism any less deserving than saying Drug addiction or Alcohol abuse is a diease. (Which both those things are). Just because you(GENERIC verison) might not agree with something doesn't make it any less of a diease.

sampalletband:

why not? Why is transgender-ism any less deserving than saying Drug addiction or Alcohol abuse is a diease. (Which both those things are). Just because you(GENERIC verison) might not agree with something doesn't make it any less of a diease.

I don't believe it is a disease; that's why I think it's wrong.

What makes a disease?

Bloodraine:

What makes a disease?

A disease or medical condition is an abnormality of the body or mind that causes discomfort, dysfunction, distress, or death to the person afflicted or those in contact with the person.

druscilla.:

Bloodraine:

What makes a disease?

A disease or medical condition is an abnormality of the body or mind that causes discomfort, dysfunction, distress, or death to the person afflicted or those in contact with the person.

hey Dru, no offense but doesn't that describe someone who is transgendered? Doesn't believing with your heart soul and mind that you are a woman but yet you are in fact phsycially a man casue discomfort, dysfuncation, distress and sometimes even death to the person?

Being bad at math causes me discomfort and that has to do with my brain sucking at math.

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Another definition:

"a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment. "

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"Many transgender people do not like being labeled as having a disease. They do not feel being transgender is an illness or disease. They see it as a 'harmless trait' like being homosexual or left-handed."

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Stanton, a 48-year-old married father, has been Largo city manager for 14 years. After the St. Petersburg newspaper ran a story two weeks ago that he planned to have a sex change, city commissioners voted 5-2 to fire him.

Hundreds of angry residents turned out to support the firing. Gay and transgender activists have rallied behind Stanton, but acknowledge that there are no federal laws to protect him.

What do you think about that?
I think that there should be federal anti-discrimination laws for trans people, just like there are for others.
It isn't fair that she should get fired just because she wants a sex change.

When school officials announce the name of the Fresno [Calif.] High School prom king on Saturday, Cinthia Covarrubias will be wearing a tuxedo just like the six boys vying for the honor. School officials this week added the 17-year-old's name to the ballot for prom king, reversing a previous district policy that allowed only boys to run for king and girls for prom queen.

Gay youth advocates called it a landmark victory for campus gender expression and said they believe it's the first time in the United States that an openly transgender student has run for prom royalty.

druscilla; in rags:

When school officials announce the name of the Fresno [Calif.] High School prom king on Saturday, Cinthia Covarrubias will be wearing a tuxedo just like the six boys vying for the honor. School officials this week added the 17-year-old's name to the ballot for prom king, reversing a previous district policy that allowed only boys to run for king and girls for prom queen.

Gay youth advocates called it a landmark victory for campus gender expression and said they believe it's the first time in the United States that an openly transgender student has run for prom royalty.

I saw that on Yahoo. It's awesome. :D

sampalletband:

druscilla.:

Bloodraine:

What makes a disease?

A disease or medical condition is an abnormality of the body or mind that causes discomfort, dysfunction, distress, or death to the person afflicted or those in contact with the person.

hey Dru, no offense but doesn't that describe someone who is transgendered? Doesn't believing with your heart soul and mind that you are a woman but yet you are in fact phsycially a man casue discomfort, dysfuncation, distress and sometimes even death to the person?

lately I been seeing myself more as a guy by the way I act & think I would rather dress like a guy then a girl. & I SURE AS FUCK DON'T WANT TO CALLED DISEASED FOR IT!!!!!

My_used_romance54:

lately I been seeing myself more as a guy by the way I act & think I would rather dress like a guy then a girl. & I SURE AS FUCK DON'T WANT TO CALLED DISEASED FOR IT!!!!!

Before you get upset.

I would say that considering yourself transgendered is something you need to take really seriously. I mean, there are some genuinely very butch females out there, nothing wrong with it. And there are some people who are just, you know, cross-dressers. Like Eddie Izzard, who is beyond amazing and definitely not diseased.

I mean, just because you act like a guy and dress like a guy, doesn't make you 'dieased' or transgendered or anything.

^wow that is just what i was going to say to her. Just because you dress like a guy or act like a guy doesn't make you transgendered.

I see it more as maybe getting rid of your boobs or something and calling yourself a guy. that is what i think transgendered is.
but please do not yell at me. I truely have no fact but yea just saying what I think.

*peace*

if i got rid fo my boobs that would make me a Transexual. at least thats what I thought