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  • folie a dru.

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    @ Soy un Dorito!
    "It also makes me wonder if prostitution was legal, how many young women would view it as an easy way out of poverty or a way to pay for their education or just make money to spend on whatever they want."

    Well, it is and it would be and what's wrong with that? It's your body to do what you would like with it. What's so wrong with selling sex? I've considered being a camgirl, which is essentially a form of prostitution, there's just no touching. It would be an easy way out of poverty and I would be able to use the money to pay my rent. What's the issue?
    March 3rd, 2013 at 11:09pm
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    @ dru seems insane.
    No, I didn't say it was wrong, I am saying that a girl/woman who doesn't want to do it might feel forced to do so because there is no other job. If you want to do it, fine, as long as you're safe and happy. But if you don't want to do it but feel like it's the only way to pay your bills and feed your family, that is an issue.
    March 3rd, 2013 at 11:20pm
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    I'm in a really bad situation right now, I was a brilliant student but thanks to the austerity policies, I didn't get a college scholarship, now I'm unemployed and I have no idea what to do with my life. I could easily turn to prostitution if I wanted to. I personally don't want that but if it was legal, I would probably be pressured into it. If anybody wants to sell sex, I have absolutely nothing against it, but I don't want it for myself.
    March 3rd, 2013 at 11:24pm
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    This might be completely off-topic, but I'm curious to see other people's opinions on the matter.

    Would anybody here link prostitution and pornography? I would think the two would be related in that they're both selling sex and getting paid for it and pornography is a legal industry as far as I know, so. Anyways, I don't really know for sure if one could relate one to the other. I was just curious as to someone else's opinion on that bit, please.

    Also, this is a really good open discussion to be having; these things are actually a lot more common than most people are aware of, or rather they just don't want to speak on it...
    March 11th, 2013 at 11:55pm
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    @ User Friendly.
    I think they're both parts of the sex industry. I think they are different and not the same job. But they are both jobs within the same industry.
    March 12th, 2013 at 12:17am
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    Okay, so, it's only the sex industry that they have in common? How would you explain the other half of it as far as getting paid to have sex, perform sex acts, etc. for payment? I hope I'm not being a bother with these questions. It's only because I've always had a hard time telling the difference between the two and it's a learning process to hear about the issue through somebody else's point of view.

    Thank you for getting back with me, by the way.
    March 12th, 2013 at 01:29am
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    @ User Friendly.
    Well, in prostitution you are being paid to give a client or clients pleasure in a hands-on way. In porn you aren't really there to enjoy it or give other person enjoyment. You are there to act for the camera and give viewers enjoyment. You may have to shoot a scene several times. I mean, just technically they are different.
    March 12th, 2013 at 02:54am
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    Okay.

    I think I've got a better understanding on everything now. Thank you for sharing your opinion with me. I can definitely see the line that separates the two of these now. In fact, there are actually several technicalities that make them different I've found after further looking things up and whatnot.

    But thank you for the discussion, Dru. I really appreciated your input on the whole thing. Take care!
    March 12th, 2013 at 03:02am
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    It's legal out in Vegas, is it not? That's what I heard, at least.
    March 13th, 2013 at 11:25pm
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    @ l0lita-
    Nevada, but not Vegas. It's illegal in all largely populated areas in Nevada, pretty much, but brothels are legal in rural areas. 8 out of Nevada's 16 counties have at least one active brothel.
    March 14th, 2013 at 12:02am
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    I don't think it should be legalized. It's probably the way I was raised, but I'm completely against selling sex, or doing anything sexually related for money.

    I come from a small town where the drug and alcohol industries are huge. We have motels being closed down because they are prostitution rings and an old mattress warehouse being the go-to-place to find a "hooker". I find it just wrong I guess.

    If it was up to me it would never be legalized, even if the women, or men, or scanned for STDs. Everyone is better off with masturbation anyway.
    March 14th, 2013 at 04:37am
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    @ Psychotic Secrets
    Why do you think people should be punished for it? And why do you think it should be legal to give something away but not sell it?
    March 14th, 2013 at 04:20pm
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    Because I think it's wrong to even give it away. So therefore to me it's even more wrong to sell it. I have yet to see any good come from giving and selling sex, in any way. That's how I was raised and that is what I really do believe. In my family sex is sacred.

    People should be punished for it because it is illegal. It's illegal for a reason. And until someone can come up with a flawless system, or even a okay system, protitution should be illegal and punishable by imprisonment and/or fines. Because now we are just left with a spread of STDs, broken families and homes, and an environment children shouldn't be brought in.

    It's just one of those things that will never have a right or wrong answer. I could careless what people do in their personal time. But because hardly anything good comes from prostitution it should not be legal, until that is changed. But that's never going to happen because its nearly impossible to put enough health codes and things like that to regulate sex.
    March 14th, 2013 at 05:29pm
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    @ Psychotic Secrets
    It can allow a woman to feed herself and/or her children. Is that not a good reason to do something? If you get enjoyment from sex you would enjoy it and therefore some good would come of it.

    I don't subscribe to the 'it's illegal so leave it alone' mentality. In fact, I think we should always question why things are illegal because I don't think it's up to the government to regulate our personal lives.
    March 14th, 2013 at 05:37pm
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    @ dru in flight

    The government should, because if they didn't we wouldn't be able to co-exist. People are monsters, they kill what they hate, and hate what they don't understand. If it wasn't for laws we would be heathens and would destroy ourselves. Sure the government goes too far in our personal lives, but they have good meaning to behind it.

    A woman shouldn't, or even a man, resort to selling their body for sex. There is other ways to gain money quickly and legally. Like stripping, no one is hurt when they show off their body and dance for money. There is no touching involved and its for the enjoyment of everyone. If someone enjoys sex, by all means have sex. I not going to stop them. But there is a line between having sex for the enjoyment and pleasuring others for money.

    About all the woman I know that have prostituted regret every moment of it, or seem to. I highly doubt someone will enjoy the sex with every man, or woman, that pays for it. We as human beings have preferences. So being forced up to a point to sleep with someone isn't worth the hell that might go through their mind.

    Having sex with people is fine, but paying someone to have sex with someone is wrong to me. No matter what point you throw at me, it's still wrong in my eyes. Everyone gets hurt in the situation in the long run. So I rather the government not allow this to happen and punish those who don't listen.
    March 14th, 2013 at 11:45pm
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    @ Psychotic Secrets
    How many women do you know that prostituted themselves?

    So the men who leave their wives at home and go to the strip club for hours on end to get lap dances from a girl grinding her ass clothed in nothing but a thin thong is 'no biggie'. It's only when women actually participate in the sex, but men ogling them for hours on end -- no biggie.

    The idea that something is illegal so we just "shouldn't do it" is ridiculous to me. Marrying a black guy if you were a white girl used to be illegal. Should we have just gone alone with it because? It used to be legal to rape your wife -- should we have left that alone, too?

    Laws aren't there to go 'oh, well, okay, I'll never question anything about it ever'. Question everything. And then question whether or not you think the government has the right to control your sex life because I think the answer is no.
    March 15th, 2013 at 03:19pm
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    @ dru in flight

    Plenty. There is houses where they actually stay in, while others stay with their children in other homes. We have crossed paths multiple times, it's a daily ritual. My town is full of it, the children and teenagers know where to not go at night because the women gather and actual harass people.

    It is a huge thing, I even find it disgusting. But it's legal, which is why I have no problem with men or women going. I would never allow my boyfriend to go however. I think the strip clubs should only be for the single. I know women who allow their husbands to do that because it doesn't cause any harm to themselves. Those women find it just entertainment. Everyone is different. I have yet to hear a story how a man got divorced because he went to a stip club.

    But I hear plenty of stories where families were crushed and ruined because the man had sex with a woman...sometimes it's even worse when he paid for the sex. Sex shouldn't be paid for, or given out like donations or free coupons. Now when I say sex shouldn't be given out, I don't mean as in someone can't have sex with multiple partners. Given out as in the teenagers in my old high-school.

    Those girls and boys had sex to just have a number under their belt. Some of them hated every moment. Some of them had sex with multiple partners because they love the feeling, which I have no problem with. I have very close friends, men and women, with very high sex drives. It's when they have sex to just say they are having sex. When there is no pleasure or love or even lust involved. That is what I don't agree with. Now when that kind of sex is paid for, that's where I am right now. I don't agree with that at all and it should to be legal.

    This thread is about prostitution, not all the government laws. I don't care what was legal in the 1900's. It doesn't pertain to now as much. Selling sex where there is no real pleasure, lust or love between the two people is wrong. It would be horrible if it was legalized. If a woman wants to have sex, fine she can do it with whomever she wishes. But she could not charge a man, or a man charge a woman. If someone really wants that much intimacy, they are allowed to be all means and do it as much as they want. It's legal and they will not get into trouble unless they start hurting people. Like giving out STDs,
    March 15th, 2013 at 04:42pm
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    @ Psychotic Secrets
    So if prostitution were legal you would have no problem with it, but because it's illegal you do?

    I don't think people should be on the street corner hooking. I think we should have brothels were STD screenings are done and you don't have to worry about pimps and having the shit beat out of you or getting raped. Or at least those numbers would go down.

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    If someone doesn't want to have sex with you and you want intimacy what choice do you have besides paying someone? Or do you just not get intimacy because no one wants to have sex with you for free?

    I feel like if it's my body and I want to charge someone for use of it, that's between me and them, not you and the government.

    I can go on a date with someone and charge them for that, legally, or I can shake my ass in their lap and get paid for it, legally. I can also have sex on camera and get paid for it, legally. Why should the government suddenly swoop in and say 'no camera/non-produced paid sex is illegal'.

    Regardless of your opinions on prostitution, do you really think the government should be regulating our private sexual lives to such extremes?

    And this thread has to do with legal/illegal aspects of it, too. It's in the first post.
    March 15th, 2013 at 04:51pm
  • psychotic secrets;

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    It depends. If the government can make it safe, then I have no problem with it then. It's the fact how gross and unsafe it can be that others me the most. It's also the street corners. Brothels would be a better solution, if it was safer is all.

    There is probably a reason why someone can't have sex with others. Maybe they have terrible hygiene, a STD, or something else. If someone wants to have sex that badly then they must find a legal way to do so. There is billions of people in this world, and hundreds of ways to release yourself. There is services if someone wants to have a relationship without sex, of course. Most of the time when someone hires a prostitute it's because they are lonely or want a release.

    The government has every right to control our sex lives to a point. We shouldn't be allowed to have sex in public, or sell ourselves in such unsafe ways. Its terrible too because if it was legalize then more young girls would be more appealed to the idolization that will come soon after. The government has every right to say we cannot sell ourselves. They also have the right to legalize it if they can regulate it properly.

    Now if they find a way to make brothels and screen every single person involved, then great. They also have to make sure it doesn't hurt the clients family or the prostitute. That's nearly impossible. If you want to sell your body, fine do it. People do it everyday. But it shouldn't be legalized with strict regulations. But I still think its wrong in the first place. But that's just me.

    The initial post was if the government should legalize prostitution or not. Not about how the government is controlling our lives.

    @ dru in flight
    March 15th, 2013 at 06:24pm
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    @ Psychotic Secrets
    Maybe they're fat and ugly and no one wants to sleep with them. Maybe they have awkward personality skills or aren't very nice. But you're saying that if someone wants intimacy then they can just "go get it" but if they can't, then their options are rape or prostitution. Regardless of opinion of prostitution, I'm sure most people would prefer it to rape in that case.

    Why do people need to make sure it doesn't hurt the client's family? It's not the government's business? If you go to a store and flirt with the clerk, do they call your wife to see if that's a problem? No.

    It's your job to keep your family in check, not a businesses and not the government's. If you're beating your kids, someone needs to intervene, but if you're screwing around, it really isn't the government's place to get involved.
    March 15th, 2013 at 09:18pm