Legalization of Marijuana

  • dally winston.

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    Pot just needs to be legal already. If it doesn't happen, people are just gonna get their medical cards since it's so easy. All you gotta do is say you have back pain & you can get your card. I have mine, but it's for my epilepsy.
    July 10th, 2012 at 08:23pm
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    Yeah, marijuana should definitely be legal. I've only had good experiences with dope, and yeah I may have a bad one, but I've had good and bad experiences with alcohol and that's legal.
    July 11th, 2012 at 02:07am
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    You can turn that logic around though. For example, I've had a lot of bad experiences with alcohol so maybe that should be illegal. Just because something illegal is as bad as something legal doesn't mean it should be made legal.

    A comparable example in the legal sense:

    It used to legal to rape your wife. You could say that rape should be legal because its just as bad as raping your spouse but that is obviously very flawed.

    I'm not saying that smoking weed is comparable to raping someone but that laws should be seen individually or it can snowball.
    July 11th, 2012 at 02:43am
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    @ drowning lessons.
    I didn't know minors were eligible for medical cards. Is that state by state or in all states where medicinal is legal?
    July 11th, 2012 at 05:02am
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    @ drowning lessons.
    I didn't know minors were eligible for medical cards. Is that state by state or in all states where medicinal is legal?
    I don't know if it's legal everywhere, but I've heard of children using medical marijuana. Michigan is the state I know of where minors can get a medical card. From self reporting by the parents, kids don't smoke marijuana, they eat marijuana infused products.

    It has to be on a state by state basis, because there is no federal statue regarding medical marijuana.
    July 20th, 2012 at 10:15pm
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    @ Kurtni
    Ahhhh. Interesting to know. I thought they were only for individuals 18 and over, but now that you mention it I think I saw a 20/20 special about using it to treat ADHD and ODD.
    July 20th, 2012 at 11:49pm
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    Yesterday two states, Washington and Colorado, voted in favor of making recreational use of marijuana legal to those over 21 years of age.

    "The Drug Enforcement Administration’s enforcement of the Controlled Substances Act remains unchanged," a DEA spokesperson told Reason this morning. "In enacting the Controlled Substances Act, Congress determined that marijuana is a Schedule I controlled substance. The Department of Justice is reviewing the ballot initiatives and we have no additional comment at this time." source.

    What do you think?

    Obviously, I'm in favor. I know in Colorado the money is going to go toward school construction and what remains will be put in the state's general fund. I know in Washington individual cultivation is illegal unless you are a qualified medical marijuana patients and/or their designated care provider. Washington state also allows non-residents to use medicinal marijuana, so this makes me wonder if they'll allow non-residents to purchase. I'm wondering the same thing about Colorado. Not that it matters with how easy it is to get weed in Colorado.
    November 8th, 2012 at 05:12am
  • the god of mischief.

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    @dru will wait.

    We had this discussion in my government class yesterday. We weren't very divided, most were for it, but the few that were against it were very strongly so. Fist fights almost happened and a desk was flipped. People left the room to blow off steam. It got intense.

    I'm for it, and I hope that these states will set an example for others to follow. If I remember correctly, I may not being doing so however, a little while back congress was tossing around the idea of making the legalizatiion of marijuana a state decision rather than a federal one.
    November 10th, 2012 at 10:54pm
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    @ Astrid.
    It's amazing to me that anyone is that against pot. Wow... I'm curious as to what their reasons were.
    November 13th, 2012 at 03:44am
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    @dru will wait.

    Well, most of them that were against it (and really, still are) were hard-core into religion and believed it went against God's word. One in particular, I dont want to use names, was very outspoken about it and also believed that alcohol should be illegalized and prohibition should be once again enforced. He said that if we "Need" to warp our perception of the world to have fun, that we need to be saved by God and that if this "Saving" did not happen, that those guilty of the "Sin" will/would be eternialy damned.

    Another, less religious person, had family that used pot as a "Gate-way" drug and believed that the drug was the cause of all the turmoil around said family.

    We got back the official numbers from our teacher though; 94% of the senior class (which has 90 students) was for legalization with the other 5% against. The missing 1% comes from a few undecided students.
    November 15th, 2012 at 11:56pm
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    @ Astrid.
    Ah. So basically it's other obsessive people or people who are misinformed about the whole 'gateway' thing which has nothing to do with marijuana and everything to do with an individual's psychological make-up and addictive personality.

    Makes sense. My mom is against pot because it's illegal and that's it. She thinks it should be legal, but she doesn't encourage of the usage of it because it is illegal. (Decriminalized in my state. You have to be caught with over an ounce to even be allowed to go to jail. Anything under that and you have to get caught four times before you can go to jail. Otherwise it's a ticket.)
    November 16th, 2012 at 05:55pm
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    @dru will wait.

    Exactly. Also, and I can really only speak for the few that were in my class, the students who were against it absolutely refused to consider any information that supported the use of weed in any way. Even the smaller, simple things such as the fact it relieves pain. Their claim was that heroin also relieves pain, so why should we even /medicinally/ legalize marijuana for the same thing? It was a very frustrating 50 minutes of my life. I despise talking to walls, especially ones that not only talk over you in protest but insult you too. Facepalm

    That's how both of my parents are. If it was legal, I'm pretty sure that it would be the number one "After work special" in my family, however in Ohio (at least to the latest of my knowledge, being I didn't keep up with the issues on the ballot a week or so ago) it isn't even decriminalized.
    November 17th, 2012 at 05:45am
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    @ Astrid.
    I'm not going to comment on that particular debate as I obviously wasn't here but in my experience I've found that talking to most people who are pro-legalisation is the same...brick wall and refusal to listen to other perspective.
    November 17th, 2012 at 07:51pm
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    @ Astrid.
    I'm not going to comment on that particular debate as I obviously wasn't here but in my experience I've found that talking to most people who are pro-legalisation is the same...brick wall and refusal to listen to other perspective.
    Agreed. It's not like it's a one way street. I've never really encountered anyone who is pro-legalisation who is even remotely open to understanding why others are against it.
    November 17th, 2012 at 11:12pm
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    Touché, but I feel as this goes in all arguments/debates; it's why they're not mutual discussions.

    I apologize for obviousness and obliviousness in the posting.
    November 18th, 2012 at 06:00am
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    @ bella swan
    I understand their arguments, but I feel most of them are contradictory. Like if someone is against marijuana because they think it's bad, they don't have a lot of information about it, in my opinion, or they wouldn't say that. I mean, I've heard all the arguments . . .I just don't feel like someone's morals are good enough to make a law about that was started because paper mills wanted to have a monopoly. I don't agree with conservative principals on most things, though. They tend to intrude upon the rights of the individual and lack substance.
    November 20th, 2012 at 05:34am
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    bella swan:
    Agreed. It's not like it's a one way street. I've never really encountered anyone who is pro-legalisation who is even remotely open to understanding why others are against it.
    I understand every anti-legalization argument, but I still think they're wrong/illogical/led by misinformation. Understanding doesn't mean I accept others beliefs or see no flaws in what they say.
    November 20th, 2012 at 06:27am
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    @ Astrid.
    It's amazing to me that anyone is that against pot. Wow... I'm curious as to what their reasons were.
    Really? After all the discussions we had?
    December 6th, 2012 at 04:43am
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    @ kizzman
    It is still amazing to me, yes.
    December 6th, 2012 at 05:54pm
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    In January, Colorado will become "New Amsterdam". At least, that's what we've all been calling it. Basically, right now you can only go to a dispensary and purchase product in the state if you are a citizen of that state with a valid ID. In January, you just need a valid ID (and to be 21, I think).

    I'm going to Denver Comic Con in June. I get the feeling there will be a lot of chillaxed people around.
    October 28th, 2013 at 03:54pm