Illegal Song Downloading.

You know people can just use www.spiralfrog.com
There are legal ways of down loading music.
You just have to look.

I had limewire but it gave our computer a virus so we had to get rid of it.

I don't download songs for free. I use Itunes, because i do have money. I'm not really gonna attack anyone who does use limewire, but I really don't condone people downloading songs for free.

I've heard bad things about limewire, from giving computers viruses, to (if I'm not mistaken) Identity theft (I think it was identity theft what the news said. Either that, or people (People as in pedophiles) using it to stalk people)

I haven't read through this entire thread, but what i've seen posted by Kurtni, I agree with her. WHen I first started using myspace, a lot of bands I'd seen has their sogns available for download. Now? I rarely see that. That could probably be because people were abusing it or something. I don't know. Sure, I've downloaded 2 songs off of a myspace page (one of them I ended up losing on my computer though) but I don't feel right if I don't download off of Itunes. I don't buy whole albums anyways off tere, I simply pay my $.99 for a song.

Plus, about a year ago, some lady got caught illegally downloading songs, and was forced to pay a shitload of money. And I mean a shitload. I remember hearing about it, I think it was only like 27 songs, but she had a lawsuit against her and was charged and stuff.

But for me: I am not pro free or illegal downloads, but I'm really not gonna attack anyone that does. Because if they want to steal from bands, let them, it's not my problem, because I pay for my music. And not all bands would be fine losing out on some money. Not all bands have the kind of money that say. MCR or GD has.

LoveAlone.:

I always buy CDs from smaller underground bands.

I always, always buy CD's from our local bands, especially if they are going to be big anytime soon, I like knowing only 100 people have this CD.

I've downloaded hundreds of songs from limewire, I don't feel that bad about it seeing as I have nearly all of the cds with the songs that i'm downloading. I just am simply too lazy to spend the half hour it takes to put a CD onto my ipod.
So it works either way for me.

Kurtni Reznor:

guiltfeeder:

I download music in LimeWire. I seriously think it's not stealing because, it's the people's will to put their songs there. They paid for the music they put there. And for those who download music there like me, it's not my problem anymore because I think and like I said, they want to put their music there. Besides, it's not like I forced them to put it there so that I can download it. :file:

It is your problem, and if you were caught and punished you would see that. :mrgreen:

First off, you have no way of knowing if the music on lime wire was paid for, don't assume that. Secondly, think about what you're saying. You're saying its ok to take someone elses merchandies, and distribute it without their permission, that isn't ok.

This isn't only about me... :shifty

I feel no guilt from illegally downloading songs, because I cannor find most of them from iTunes.

However, I do use iTunes because its less of a hassle.

I think illegally downloading songs isn't good because you're stealing somebody's hard work and not giving much in return.

I am guilty of it though. I use limewire for alot of my music. :oops:
I only buy albums when I really appreciate the music.
I would preffer not to use limewire at all but I don't have enough money to be buying all the cd's I want.

For me limewire is the way to go, if I don't like a lot of the music the band has made, but there was that one song that was just perfect.

Other than that, I buy most of my music. If I can't afford it at the moment, I wait until Christmas, or my birthday or something to buy the CD.

I use Limewire but only if there's one song that I want. I normally beg my parents to buy me albums that I like but I don't really have a steady "income" so I can't use iTunes all the time.
However, I do feel bad for using Limewire.

I'm not sure how I would fit into this...
I use iTunes cards a bit, and CDs, but that's about it.
99% of my music is gotten to me by one of two things:
1) Someone has sent me the file over MSN, Megaupload or something.
or 2) I used one of those bagiggers where you rip music off Myspace.
:/ I don't think either of those are legal, but I really don't see the issue with it.
If you love music and that's the only way you can get, why should you be limited to paying for it?

we are galaxies.:

If you love music and that's the only way you can get, why should you be limited to paying for it?

Because it isn't your music to just take. it's someone else's product and they have the right to the profit. If I love clothes from a particular store but can't afford them, that doesn't mean I should go and steal them. No matter how much I love them, I have no right to them if I can't pay for it legally. I don't see how music is any different.

Kurtni Manson:

Because it isn't your music to just take. it's someone else's product and they have the right to the profit. If I love clothes from a particular store but can't afford them, that doesn't mean I should go and steal them. No matter how much I love them, I have no right to them if I can't pay for it legally. I don't see how music is any different.

I... guess I see what you're saying.
Have the authorities or something tried to remove limewire and other places from the net so they can't be downloaded anymore?
I think if's such a problem, that's what they should do.

we are galaxies.:

Kurtni Manson:

Because it isn't your music to just take. it's someone else's product and they have the right to the profit. If I love clothes from a particular store but can't afford them, that doesn't mean I should go and steal them. No matter how much I love them, I have no right to them if I can't pay for it legally. I don't see how music is any different.

I... guess I see what you're saying.
Have the authorities or something tried to remove limewire and other places from the net so they can't be downloaded anymore?
I think if's such a problem, that's what they should do.

I think recently limewire has been monitored, but that's just what a friend told me. I don't really understand why they've not been removed, since they aren't hard to find.

romanticide.:

I think recently limewire has been monitored, but that's just what a friend told me. I don't really understand why they've not been removed, since they aren't hard to find.

I think it's because LimeWire in itself is not technically illegal, though most of what people do with it is.

the endless.:

romanticide.:

I think recently limewire has been monitored, but that's just what a friend told me. I don't really understand why they've not been removed, since they aren't hard to find.

I think it's because LimeWire in itself is not technically illegal, though most of what people do with it is.

Yeah, file-sharing itself isn't illegal; it's the files that people are sharing. People share stuff that breaches copyright, and that's illegal. Having the program isn't, and sharing certain material isn't, so they can't really say 'you're not allowed to have it', and with a program like that I think it'd be hard to monitor everything on it.

Anything that breaches copyright is illegal.

^ Yeah. And Limewire actually has an option that lets you limit your searches to only material that is licensed and legal.

I am for it obviously, considering that is how I get most of my music

I just don't think that a person downloading a song or anything else should be penalized if they're not doing anything with it
Like if a person downloads music/movies, whatever and goes out and sells it, that yeah they should be charged for it
But if a person just downloads a song to listen to, maybe burn a copy for a friend, and that's pretty much it

I understand why a big deal is made because sure it could be like stealing
But it's not like I downloaded Pretty. Odd . and went out and sold it to everyone cheaper than the store

I occasionally illegally download songs. If I hear a song I like by a band, then I'll download a couple of songs, and if I like the sound of them then I'll go out and buy the album.

The thing is, I don't want to spend money on something I might not like, as I can't afford to. I find it easier this way.

Sometimes illegal downloading can go in favour of a band; I was told about Coheed and Cambria, I got a few songs, I liked them and ended up going out and buying three albums. They sold not one but three albums, just because I downloaded five songs.

That has to be a good thing.

I'm kind of mixed on this one. I'm for it because if you only want one song by them, then you can just get that one song quickly and convieniently. But then again, I'm also kind of against it because you are stealing someone's work and not paying for it.

I don't download that often. I usually just wait to get the CDs. I only download if the artists give a link to a free download, or if I'm simply really in love with a song, and even then I still and stop to think about if I really want to download it or not. And then sometimes I feel guilty about downloading it and end up deleting it.

I don't know...I'm mixed on this one. But I guess it's okay to download demos and covers because sometimes they're not available on iTunes.

In a moralistic sense, it's wrong I guess. Stealing, and all that.
But I do it all the time. I don't ever buy music, unless it's a band I'm teenie-obsessed with, and want the CD artwork and stuff.
I think it's wrong, but I'm not that bothered. Like, it doesn't gnaw at my conscience or anything.