Anorexia.

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I think there are two kinds of anorexia. One, the actual mental illness where you've been convinced by so many people, [including yourself] that you are overweight. When you look in the mirror, you see a fat person, when it isn't yourself.

And the second is where people are just self-conscious about their bodies [like everyone] but want to solve their weight problems quickly by just starving yourself.
I saw this thing on TV a while ago about like, an anorexia 'camp'. The people there didn't want to eat, but it's also that they can't bring themselves to eat. I think, when you're constantly fighting with the thought of having to eat, and thinking that you look disgustingly[sp?] overweight, that's the mental illness. But not eating a lot, and just eating small things, that's not.

It's just an idea, I've never been a victim of anorexia, so I'll be happy to get any comments in reply to what I just said =]

disablor.:

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And the second is where people are just self-conscious

Being self concious is not a physical disorder though :shifty Feeling self conscious would be part of the mental disorder of anorexia..

Santi:

I don't get how people can do that to themselves.

They have a mental disease. If you've never suffered from one, then there's no possible way to understand fully.

I think that anorexia is, obviously, a mental illness, but there are a lot of girls who do it because their friends do it. I know a group of girls who purge infront of each other, I can hardly say they aren't suffering from bulimia, but a few of them seem to be doing it for the hype.

Apparently women think negative thoughts of their body every 13 minutes on average? (Or something to that degree.) When you consider things like this, it's hardly surprising eating disorders are so common.

disablor.:

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I think there are two kinds of anorexia. One, the actual mental illness where you've been convinced by so many people, [including yourself] that you are overweight. When you look in the mirror, you see a fat person, when it isn't yourself.

And the second is where people are just self-conscious about their bodies [like everyone] but want to solve their weight problems quickly by just starving yourself.
I saw this thing on TV a while ago about like, an anorexia 'camp'. The people there didn't want to eat, but it's also that they can't bring themselves to eat. I think, when you're constantly fighting with the thought of having to eat, and thinking that you look disgustingly[sp?] overweight, that's the mental illness. But not eating a lot, and just eating small things, that's not.

It's just an idea, I've never been a victim of anorexia, so I'll be happy to get any comments in reply to what I just said =]

A lot of people say they're anorexic when in reality, they aren't.

Many women don't like themselves... it's (unfortunately) pretty normal, but anorexia is something else. Anorexia nervosa (in the restricting sense of the disease) is not being able to eat because you're so scared of food, not going on a crash diet because you want to lose ten pounds to look good in a swimsuit.

And as I said earlier, it's very over-romanticised. It's not glamorous in reality... anorexia can turn someone into a monster when food is concerned. I remember being in an EDU and seeing otherwise lovely people turn into a demon over chocolate fudge cake. It's actually pretty unreal.

There’s so much to say on the subject I mean really…
It’s mental
It’s physical

I’m anorexic…well, was, but since it’s a disease it never really goes away, I am, you have to constantly keep yourself in check. It’s a life long thing, and actually it’s genetic… It’s one of the most, if not the most, difficult thing I’ve had to deal with in my life.

It’s not always about being ‘thin’ and ‘pretty’

There are people out there who keep saying that you’re stupid and dumb and vain to starve yourself and not eat or to throw up your food for the sake of your figure…yeah, it is, but anorexia isn’t something that you can just stop and it’s not like those are the real reasons.

It runs in my dad’s side of the family and it’s triggered by certain things like trauma and continual stress over load, control issues when your life goes out of control and food is the one thing that you CAN control you control it too much….or at least mine was brought on through different things along with clinical depression which also runs in my family. You don’t just go “oh, I think I’ll be anorexic/bulimic”

You have to really want help and you have to really want to get better…I wrote a journal on my page listing some of the things I’d missed out on be being anorexic….

I’m graduating late because my body was so starved for nourishment that I couldn’t concentrate enough to do school.
I didn’t learn how to drive like all the other 16-17 year olds.
My parents watched my every move…

It’s no way to live, actually being in danger of dying even if your don’t realize it….You’re at risk for a heart attack due to lack of enough blood in your body, your brain actually shrinks, you become weak, always tired, hunger keeps you awake at night and gives you hallucinations along with nightmares……

It's played up, scorned AND romantizised all at the same time....

KidEmery:

I’m graduating late because my body was so starved for nourishment that I couldn’t concentrate enough to do school.
I didn’t learn how to drive like all the other 16-17 year olds.
My parents watched my every move…

It’s no way to live, actually being in danger of dying even if your don’t realize it….You’re at risk for a heart attack due to lack of enough blood in your body, your brain actually shrinks, you become weak, always tired, hunger keeps you awake at night and gives you hallucinations along with nightmares……

It's played up, scorned AND romantizised all at the same time....

I only passed two GCSEs (heavily linked with not being in school almost at all for three years, I suppose?) and don't have enough qualifications to do A Levels or do any course besides GNVQ... it definitely makes me feel like a failure, and in any job - people are hesitant to employ you if you have next to no GCSEs (and saying "yeah, I was anorexic" isn't going to cut it, really)

It's played up to the point where it sounds like an eating disorder makes you interesting. It doesn't, it makes you obsessive, seemingly crazy and a nervous wreck who just so happens to smell slightly of vomit ^_^ To be honest, they're rather boring... depressing, boring, a total waste of your time. You'll spend years and years of harming yourself with 'no' consequences until one day, you realise just how much you've lost and how much you've been deluding yourself over the past few decades.

... It's not cool, doesn't contribute in making you interesting (although the subject could be considered as such), is associated with spoiled little girls, and has horrible effects on your social life, health and aesthetic image...

My cousin, before she got admitted to EDU, told me that she heard voices in her head and that sometimes she would try and bash her head against the wall or against a table to try and get rid of them.

Also apparently, if you are anorexic or bulimic in your teenage years, you delay your developement and growth. I'm not sure if this is true or not.

Its obviously. hard to deal with. :disgust

I have trouble understanding how people can litterally starve themselves. I can understand if there eating very little, but is the definition of annorexia not starving oneself with basically means not eating anything at all.

Are there other definitions for people who maybe dont totally starv themselves litterally but people who restrict there eating unheathily?

ChemicallyImbalanced:

Also apparently, if you are anorexic or bulimic in your teenage years, you delay your developement and growth. I'm not sure if this is true or not.

Well, yeah...
You need excess vitamins, minerals and calories to grow.
Also, your teens are a very bad time in your life to be anorexic (particularly for women) as a great deal of bone hardening is done in your late teens. This is a huge cause of the development of osteoporosis in anorexics at otherwise unheard of ages.

Livinity.:

I have trouble understanding how people can litterally starve themselves. I can understand if there eating very little, but is the definition of annorexia not starving oneself with basically means not eating anything at all.

It's a disease. Once your mind is determined to lose that weight, because you think you're fat, you'll do anything in your power to make it to that weight goal.
And then you'll set another goal. And another, and another. Because in your mind, you're never skinny enough.
It's something that you just can't control.
Does that help at all?

Kurtni Manson:

disablor.:

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And the second is where people are just self-conscious

Being self concious is not a physical disorder though :shifty Feeling self conscious would be part of the mental disorder of anorexia..

That's what I'm saying, like, everyone feels self-conscious about themselves at some point, some more than others, but that's different to anorexia. Anorexia is more extreme than feeling self-conscious about yourself.

Jepha Howard.:

Livinity.:

I have trouble understanding how people can litterally starve themselves. I can understand if there eating very little, but is the definition of annorexia not starving oneself with basically means not eating anything at all.

It's a disease. Once your mind is determined to lose that weight, because you think you're fat, you'll do anything in your power to make it to that weight goal.
And then you'll set another goal. And another, and another. Because in your mind, you're never skinny enough.
It's something that you just can't control.

Does that help at all?

I understand that aspect of it. It's just the definition I was having some problems with. I was wondering if annorexia (the term) was only those who completely starve themselves.

Livinity.:

Jepha Howard.:

Livinity.:

I have trouble understanding how people can litterally starve themselves. I can understand if there eating very little, but is the definition of annorexia not starving oneself with basically means not eating anything at all.

It's a disease. Once your mind is determined to lose that weight, because you think you're fat, you'll do anything in your power to make it to that weight goal.
And then you'll set another goal. And another, and another. Because in your mind, you're never skinny enough.
It's something that you just can't control.

Does that help at all?

I understand that aspect of it. It's just the definition I was having some problems with. I was wondering if annorexia (the term) was only those who completely starve themselves.

Try Here. It might explain some things that I can't.

Mrs. Melting Crayons:

I've had a closer experience to anorexia than a lot, without actually having it myself. My sister was diagnosed with it a year and a half ago, and she still struggles with the fact that she doesn't want to get better. She'd rather be skinny than alive.

It truly is a mental disease. You can treat the symptoms, the not eating or the purging, but you can't be completely cured. Like, my sister. She had treatment, but now she's a legal adult and refuses treatment because she doesn't want to get better. I hate when people say it's not that big of a deal. She might fricking die from it.

*hugs* =[ I'm sorry, anorexia is like any other mental illness...it's really hard to see some one struggle with it and then try and beat it through their stupid heads that they'll DIE if they don't eat. Then it really doesn't do anything, it's a matter of wanting help.... =[ There's no easy answer <3

How are you doing? If you ever want to talk I'm here =]

toilet paper:

KidEmery:

I’m graduating late because my body was so starved for nourishment that I couldn’t concentrate enough to do school.
I didn’t learn how to drive like all the other 16-17 year olds.
My parents watched my every move…

It’s no way to live, actually being in danger of dying even if your don’t realize it….You’re at risk for a heart attack due to lack of enough blood in your body, your brain actually shrinks, you become weak, always tired, hunger keeps you awake at night and gives you hallucinations along with nightmares……

It's played up, scorned AND romantizised all at the same time....

I only passed two GCSEs (heavily linked with not being in school almost at all for three years, I suppose?) and don't have enough qualifications to do A Levels or do any course besides GNVQ... it definitely makes me feel like a failure, and in any job - people are hesitant to employ you if you have next to no GCSEs (and saying "yeah, I was anorexic" isn't going to cut it, really)

It's played up to the point where it sounds like an eating disorder makes you interesting. It doesn't, it makes you obsessive, seemingly crazy and a nervous wreck who just so happens to smell slightly of vomit ^_^ To be honest, they're rather boring... depressing, boring, a total waste of your time. You'll spend years and years of harming yourself with 'no' consequences until one day, you realise just how much you've lost and how much you've been deluding yourself over the past few decades.

<3

I know, I'm really lucky to be homeschooled because litterally i took more than a year off of school.

& that's so true, you finally just wake up and you realize what you've wasted and there's no way to get it back.... my nutritionist is/was anorexic when she was a teenager and developed bone cancer because of it.

I think I'm really lucky to have not suffered long term like that considering now I'm really okay. I mean, some of my clothes don't fit, my parents still think I'm too thin...sometimes it creeps back up on me when I see bathing suits >_< for no real reason....

Also my parents have a HUGE problem with me being vegetarian, but they've been really supportive while I was getting better...

Anorexia; one of the diseases that are killing women (mostly teenaged) as of right now.

Too many girls find themselves 'over weight' (like myself....:shifty), and starve themselves to death thinking they'll be skinny. It scares the living shit out of me, seeing those anorexic people. It just scares me because they're just so...skinny and everything.

I have this one friend (but I hardly call her a friend :mrgreen:), she's SUPER skinny. She proclaims that there's nothing wrong with being that skinny, when there is. Once, last year, she had this sandwich that was about 1 foot long...and she only ate nearly a quarter of it and said, "I'm full." I got a free soda that day, but that isn't my point. It just seems like she's starving herself or something, or just doesn't eat anything that's apparently unhealthy. She doesn't even like the cookies we get at lunch! :cheese: Which is, nonetheless, unusual for our school. She also proclaimed that my other friend was skinnier than her, which is crazy talk. Compared to her, my other friend is a fat ass (but she's considered a stick compared to me...:XD)

But, yeah. Anorexia=bad, bad thing. It breaks my heart seeing people purposely starve themselves just to be 'beautiful', when all they're doing is just making themself look like a dying animal.

No offense to anyone in general whose 'skinny'.

Anorexia and bulimia are mental illnesses I guess, and it's hard to argue that, but I don't think everyone who starves themselves/purges/pukes neccessarily have one. A lot of people are extremely self concious and it's their way out but does that mean they have a mental illness?
I purge occassionally, and tend to eat as little as I can get away with but I don't classify that as bulimia [and if it is it's a very minor case of it] and I don't think I have a mental illness.
I don't know if that made much sense, but I don't have too much knowledge on the matter..

romanticide.:

Anorexia and bulimia are mental illnesses I guess, and it's hard to argue that, but I don't think everyone who starves themselves/purges/pukes neccessarily have one. A lot of people are extremely self concious and it's their way out but does that mean they have a mental illness?

Yes, if someone is self conscious enough to the point where he or she is hurting himself or herself and causing y their body harm and they can't see anything wrong with it, they have a mental illness. That's what anorexia is.

The sad thing about eating disorders is people often don't get the help they need.
I know of many cases where people were turned away from hospitals or just weren't getting the right kind of help.

I think the hard thing about bulimia especially is that you don't always look sick/thin, therefore people don't think you need help. I find if you don't look ill, people don't think you are.
Or at least that is the experience I've had.
Mind you...anorexia and bulimia often come as a pair.

Opinions?

It just gets really bad. People just don't see themselves like the rest of the world does.
One of my close friends was hospitalized because of how much she didn't eat, and on top of that; whenever she did eat she did like 50 sit ups after it. No one can really understand it in the end. It's really just how a person looks at themselves and what they feel and think when they take a bite out of a peice of food, as well as how they feel and what they think when they don't.