Anorexia.

I think it's a mental disorder
sadly, I know a lot of people that suffer from it
and even the ones that went through therapy still have to force themselves to eat. One lady that my mom knows is in her 40's and she went into therapy for it at...I think 14. She still struggles, I've seen her eating.

it doesn't just go away, so it's more than just wanting attention or a disease.

The way wrestlers wrap themeslves in lots of clothes and sweat off weight, strenously diet, etc. is encourage anorexia to me. It makes me sick. It's anorexia, it's just socially acceptable.

I understand that people believe they are over weight and the only way to stop that is to become anorexic or bulimic, but the thing that bothers me most is the one's who do it for the attention

Olisykes.:

I understand that people believe they are over weight and the only way to stop that is to become anorexic or bulimic, but the thing that bothers me most is the one's who do it for the attention

There are ways other than anorexia or bulimia. Healthy diet, healthy exercise. Bulimics generally don't lose much weight anyway. And people with anorexia are generally already thin.

I'm not 100% sure this is the right place, but I'm gonna give it a shot, anyway.

What if someone is extremely overweight and considers doing things like skipping meals and throwing up after earting? (Anorexia-type things) Would you find that acceptable?

Please re-direct me if I should go to another thread. I'd like opinions on this.

harlequin.:

I'm not 100% sure this is the right place, but I'm gonna give it a shot, anyway.

What if someone is extremely overweight and considers doing things like skipping meals and throwing up after earting? (Anorexia-type things) Would you find that acceptable?

Please re-direct me if I should go to another thread. I'd like opinions on this.

Regular diet and exercise is what one would consider "acceptable".
And skipping meals is just a bad idea because it puts your body in "starvation mode" and then saves the next thing you eat as fat.

Yes, but if the next thing you eat if just enough to keep you functioning (like a cracker or something), it's not really "stored", is it?

And I'm talking about the insanely overweight. Like the people you see on Oprah who can't move off the couch. Not just your average kid who thinks he/she is "fat".

harlequin.:

And I'm talking about the insanely overweight. Like the people you see on Oprah who can't move off the couch. Not just your average kid who thinks he/she is "fat".

I think anorexia is unhealthy no matter what. That's why it's a disease.
And purging doesn't make you lose much weight.

druscilla; wonder.:

I think anorexia is unhealthy no matter what. That's why it's a disease.
And purging doesn't make you lose much weight.

Isn't obesity a disease, too?

Besides, I doubt someone could turn from overweight to anorexic overnight.

harlequin.:

Yes, but if the next thing you eat if just enough to keep you functioning (like a cracker or something), it's not really "stored", is it?

As Dru said, your body goes into starvation mode. When it skips a meal it doesn't know when it's going to eat again so the next thing you eat, it tries and grabs everything that it can from that. If it was a cracker it would grab all the claories, fats, oils etc. just incase you don't eat again.

harlequin.:

Yes, but if the next thing you eat if just enough to keep you functioning (like a cracker or something), it's not really "stored", is it?

And I'm talking about the insanely overweight. Like the people you see on Oprah who can't move off the couch. Not just your average kid who thinks he/she is "fat".

Starvation fucks up your metabolism. The morbidly obese usually already have slower metabolisms, so it wouldn't be a good idea to fuck that up more.

Instead of skipping meals all together they should just eat less/the lower fat version. A lean pocket instead of a hot pocket, low fat milk instead of 2%, 2 pieces of pizza instead of 4, frozen yogurt instead of ice cream, a Special K bar verses a chocolate bar, etc.

harlequin.:

druscilla; wonder.:

I think anorexia is unhealthy no matter what. That's why it's a disease.
And purging doesn't make you lose much weight.

Isn't obesity a disease, too?

Besides, I doubt someone could turn from overweight to anorexic overnight.

'Anorexic' does not mean really skinny; it means that you starve yourself as an attempt to lose weight. You can be overweight and be anorexic, and you can be underweight and not be anorexic.

Watoosh!:

harlequin.:

druscilla; wonder.:

I think anorexia is unhealthy no matter what. That's why it's a disease.
And purging doesn't make you lose much weight.

Isn't obesity a disease, too?

Besides, I doubt someone could turn from overweight to anorexic overnight.

'Anorexic' does not mean really skinny; it means that you starve yourself as an attempt to lose weight. You can be overweight and be anorexic, and you can be underweight and not be anorexic.

Actually, to be diagnosed with anorexia nervosa, low body weight is a factor... I always thought the 'label' meant being underweight yet having a distorted body image, exhibiting eating disordered behaviours (scared of being fat, blah blah blah), and if female - not menstruating.

Refusal to maintain body weight at or above a minimally normal weight for age and height (eg, weight loss leading to maintenance of body weight less than 85% of that expected or failure to make expected weight gain during period of growth, leading to body weight less than 85% of that expected).

Intense fear of gaining weight or becoming fat, even though underweight.

Disturbance in the way in which one's body weight or shape is experienced, undue influence of body weight or shape on self-evaluation, or denial of the seriousness of the current low body weight.

In postmenarchal females, amenorrhea ie, the absence of at least three consecutive cycles. (A woman is considered to have amenorrhea if her periods occur only following hormone, eg, estrogen administration.)
Specify type:

Restricting Type: During the current episode of anorexia nervosa, the person has not regularly engaged in binge-eating or purging behavior (ie, self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas).
Binge-Eating/Purging Type: During the current episode of anorexia nervosa, the person has regularly engaged in binge-eating or purging behavior (ie, self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas).

- DSM-IV Criteria

I use to be anorexic about 3 years ago. Then with a help of a friend i got out of it....then in last year kinda came back, and now I just don't eat much mainly because my stomach can't handle much anymore.

It's for 1 unhealthy and 2 once you start eating again you get fatter, 3 you look horrible!

toilet paper:

Watoosh!:

'Anorexic' does not mean really skinny; it means that you starve yourself as an attempt to lose weight. You can be overweight and be anorexic, and you can be underweight and not be anorexic.

Actually, to be diagnosed with anorexia nervosa, low body weight is a factor... I always thought the 'label' meant being underweight yet having a distorted body image, exhibiting eating disordered behaviours (scared of being fat, blah blah blah), and if female - not menstruating.

Refusal to maintain body weight at or above a minimally normal weight for age and height (eg, weight loss leading to maintenance of body weight less than 85% of that expected or failure to make expected weight gain during period of growth, leading to body weight less than 85% of that expected).

Intense fear of gaining weight or becoming fat, even though underweight.

Disturbance in the way in which one's body weight or shape is experienced, undue influence of body weight or shape on self-evaluation, or denial of the seriousness of the current low body weight.

In postmenarchal females, amenorrhea ie, the absence of at least three consecutive cycles. (A woman is considered to have amenorrhea if her periods occur only following hormone, eg, estrogen administration.)
Specify type:

Restricting Type: During the current episode of anorexia nervosa, the person has not regularly engaged in binge-eating or purging behavior (ie, self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas).
Binge-Eating/Purging Type: During the current episode of anorexia nervosa, the person has regularly engaged in binge-eating or purging behavior (ie, self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas).

- DSM-IV Criteria

Well yeah, you explained it a whole lot better than I did, haha, but I was really just trying to say that it doesn't mean just being skinny in a lazy fashion. haha. but yes, that is a much better definition of anorexia.

Anorexia.
Where do I start with that? I've grown to hate the word and the actual thing. Only because my best fiend had it and it makes me so sad when I think or say it.
I think it's a mental "illness". I don't consider it an actual illness. Yeah it makes you ill but I think it's more a state of mind. You believe that you look wrong and you want to do something. From experience, what can start off as skipping a few meals, can turn into so much more.

Watoosh!:

harlequin.:

druscilla; wonder.:

I think anorexia is unhealthy no matter what. That's why it's a disease.
And purging doesn't make you lose much weight.

Isn't obesity a disease, too?

Besides, I doubt someone could turn from overweight to anorexic overnight.

'Anorexic' does not mean really skinny; it means that you starve yourself as an attempt to lose weight. You can be overweight and be anorexic, and you can be underweight and not be anorexic.

Not sure if it was quite into anorexia, but last year I was overweight, and stopped eating properly / completely for two months or so. It kinda worked seeing as I lost a stone... then my mum made me eat...

But three questions, if some one doesn't mind answering them.

1- How do you approach a friend that wont eat about it? Me and my friends are pretty sure one girl is anorexic, she's lost shit loads of weight and barely eats. But when we bring it up she snaps/yells and walks away.

2- How do you know if you're starting to get anorexic?

3- How do you get yourself to eat again when everything you put in your mouth feels like it should be spat out again?

Seance.:

Not sure if it was quite into anorexia, but last year I was overweight, and stopped eating properly / completely for two months or so. It kinda worked seeing as I lost a stone... then my mum made me eat...

But three questions, if some one doesn't mind answering them.

1- How do you approach a friend that wont eat about it? Me and my friends are pretty sure one girl is anorexic, she's lost shit loads of weight and barely eats. But when we bring it up she snaps/yells and walks away.

2- How do you know if you're starting to get anorexic?

3- How do you get yourself to eat again when everything you put in your mouth feels like it should be spat out again?

I don't know if that sounds like anorexia myself, but I'm no expert.

Here are the main symptoms if you think you're developing anorexic or are actually suffering from it:
-Obsession with calories, fat etc. in food.
-Sticking to some sort of diet plan.
-If you find yourself hiding food or spitting it out when people aren't looking.
-Fear of eating around others
-Lying about eating habits to avoid meals.

Physically, there's a high chance you've got an eating disorder when it's a case of:
-Dramatic weight loss
-Low blood pressure
-Periods stopping.
-Fatigue, mood swings etc.
-Bad sleeping habits
-Lack of energy
-Fine, brittle hair
-Bad skin

All found on various internet sites.

Just purely out of curiosity, would taking stimulants to kill your apetite and boost your metabolism on a regular basis because you feel you need to lose weight / eat too much considered anorexia?

If you aren't overweight or are abusing the stimulants, then doing that would be bulimia, not anorexia.

harlequin.:

druscilla; wonder.:

I think anorexia is unhealthy no matter what. That's why it's a disease.
And purging doesn't make you lose much weight.

Isn't obesity a disease, too?

Besides, I doubt someone could turn from overweight to anorexic overnight.

Since when are we treating disease with disease?