Feminism

THe article on germaine greer doesn't tell me much, she doesn't seem very radical but the..tasting your own.. *shudders*
ew.

I am all for women's rights...
We've come a long way, ladies! And for that, I am proud...

However, some feminists take it too far.

My Modern History teacher once told us that he was going in to a building and that there was a woman behind him. He kindly pulled the door open and stepped back to let her in first. While passing him on her way in to the building, the woman scoffed and called him a chauvinist pig. Isn't that a little much? Has chivalry suddenly become a mockery of women?

When boys are properly raised (though that doesn't happen all that often these days...) they are taught to be kind to the women in their life.

Is holding a door for a woman a kind gesture, or a stab at the inability of women?

^ Some women just take it the wrong way. I mean, I think it's kind of the same as when people say "bless you" when you sneeze. The guy had good intention, but the woman feels she can open the door herself, and doesn't think she needs a man to do that for her. Personaly, I don't care if someone wants to open a door for me or not. It's a nice gesture, but I can understand both sides of it. Yes, I agree that some people can take it too far.

Like, id open the door for a man! I hold the door for elderly... etc...

its just common curtesy! There needs to be a line between standing up for yourself and actually discriminating against the other sex...

I remember my mum telling me when she worked for one of the largest stock firms in Sydney there was the like head boss guy and then 3 people who were next in charge, 2 of which were women. My mum was second in charge then a man and then another lady.

Aparently he used to get alot of flack for just allowing not one but two women into such positions of power from other firms and buisness men etc.

Personally I find that shocking and I couldn't believe that in the suposedly modern and equalistic country that I live in (Austalia) people could be so medieval about gender equality. But at the same time I am proud that this man stoof against the croud and allowed these two obviously qualified women to do their job as they were the best ones for it.

I am a feminist but I see both sexes being degraded in pop culture. For women...it's the obvious; objectification, considered not as intelligent, I've never seen a man do a weight loss ad.
But for men I don't think people notice as much. Men are portrayed as stupid and incompetent in most of the commercials I see on television. In magazines and television, it's the same thing.
It's incredibly stupid to stereotype either sex.

^ It's sad, but so very true.

finally, other feminists on this site!
but yeah, i see Kesey's point, and that's what feminism is most about: gender equality. it doesn't give you the right to bash men, that's called misandry not feminism, which are two very different things

I don't think women should be objectified, and nor do I like the idea that it's a lot less safe to be a woman than it is to be a man (rape and sexual harrassment).
I have some feminist tendencies, but in no way am I a man-hating hairy lesbian.
I love men! :arms:

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*face-palm*
where did you get the idea that feminists are man-hating hairy lesbians? i don't even know where to start with that one

I live in New Zealand, which was the first country to allow the female vote and currently has it's second female prime minister. I believe that equality is everything. Nomatter what you look like, act like, and (ironically) believe in.

Feminists are very brave women, fighting for the rights that we deserve. There are many countries in which men are considered seperior and take rights that women cannot fulfill, as such. It is unfair and selfish.
Feminism is creating a pathway for a better, healthier and safer society for women to live in.

I sound like my principal. xP
(Who is also a woman.)

R!oT_GrRrL:

:shock:
*face-palm*
where did you get the idea that feminists are man-hating hairy lesbians? i don't even know where to start with that one

She was just making a joke of what I said in the first post. :cute:

Olisykes.:

THe article on germaine greer doesn't tell me much, she doesn't seem very radical but the..tasting your own.. *shudders*
ew.

I looked her up. It didn't say much either...but yeah. It's gross.

ILikeLikeYouALotLot:

I don't think women should be objectified

Yet, in a way women often objectify themselves. A lot of feminists spend time bashing the male sex, but you get women going out dressed slutty for the sake of men, they're in dancing in music videos and degrading themselves.

To be honest, I don't have a problem with it since almost all of have objectified ourselves sometimes for men at times.

Most feminists recognize that women degrade themselves.

Feminism is the fight against sexism toward women, from not only men but women, too.

Walmart is an anit-feminist industry.
If you look at all the main boss and managers, the main majority of them are men.
My aunt is a manager at one of the Walmarts and she's been working there for almost ten years.
She's constantly talked down to, but has more experience than most of her bosses.

I think females still have some areas where they aren't equal.
I don't have an opinion on the 'looking perfect' thing, yet.

KranK:

I am all for women's rights...
We've come a long way, ladies! And for that, I am proud...

However, some feminists take it too far.

My Modern History teacher once told us that he was going in to a building and that there was a woman behind him. He kindly pulled the door open and stepped back to let her in first. While passing him on her way in to the building, the woman scoffed and called him a chauvinist pig. Isn't that a little much? Has chivalry suddenly become a mockery of women?

When boys are properly raised (though that doesn't happen all that often these days...) they are taught to be kind to the women in their life.

Is holding a door for a woman a kind gesture, or a stab at the inability of women?

I hold the door open for guys sometimes. I don't see how there can be anything wrong with that.

In my town it's almost mandatory to be respectful. (I can't say that about the generation coming up, though.)

^ Exactly. :coffee:

I hold the door open for the elderly... and, well, everyone else if I like them enough to bother.

Gosh-- Walmart. I hate that company with every fiber of my being :grr:

Apparently now they pay women a little bit more than they used to, but it's still not equal. Not only that, but they also have sweat shops where they pay their workers like... three cents an hour.

Not cool. Don't shop there.

I don't know if I'm a feminist. I just believe in equal rights. If a woman commits a crime, she should get the same punishment as a man. If a woman has the exact same job as a man, they should get equal pay. I don't even understand why some people are still sexist. I thought that we were past such times.

^ I don't think we'll ever be past such times. There'll alwyas be someone or even a few people that still act like they are the better sex.