Hitler

Ianto Jones:

^ Exactly :cute:

There were questions about his sanity, but only towards the end of his life when the power got to much.

I don't think that's insanity. I think it's more...power hungry. And he may have just been...overwhelmed.

He was bad. But did you know he wanted to be an artist? and if it wasn't for his father he wouldn't have joined the military? That's a food for thought. He might not have been the man he is today if it wasn't for his father.

Well it was in is book Mein Kampf. He's a very boring writer. I could barely read it, it was such a sleeping pill and I never finished it and never will. He was a dull writer, but he wasn't a dull person obviously.

If it didn't happen then it would be happening now.

I don't think there needs to be worry of it happening again. There are so many people being more and more open-minded. There are still a lot of snot heads but there are more open-minded people and people who would never act because they know it's a lost cause.

If you watch television shows or read about any Neo-Nazi organizations it's pretty clear that they are too unorganized to start something even close to Hitler's doing.

Hitler was a great leader. His beliefs weren't that great but look at how he led people. If he wasn't filled with hate for certain groups and power hungry then he would have vase respect to this day. He was charismatic and pretty intelligent. He just had a few lose screws that didn’t work.

Hitler facinates me, I would really like to know how his mind worked.
Yes what he did was horrific and wrong but he has to my favorite historical person.
Because of the physcological side xD

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AwSugarFrankie:

But did you know he wanted to be an artist?

Yeah, I learned that last year, and I was just like
It's surprising. You never know who people really are, I guess.

I got so many weirds looks when I admitted that I admired Hitler.
Not because of what he did, definitely not because he was a racist hypocrit but simply for the fact that he had the love and devotion of the German people. He was an amazing live speaker and his speeches inspired so many.

Dalle.:

I got so many weirds looks when I admitted that I admired Hitler.
Not because of what he did, definitely not because he was a racist hypocrit but simply for the fact that he had the love and devotion of the German people. He was an amazing live speaker and his speeches inspired so many.

There are other amazing live speakers who were much more inspirational. Martin Luther King, for example.
We -well, some people- admire Hitler because he was bad and it seems like he bad thing to do. There's a certain kind of trill in that.

kafka.:

There are other amazing live speakers who were much more inspirational. Martin Luther King, for example.
We -well, some people- admire Hitler because he was bad and it seems like he bad thing to do. There's a certain kind of trill in that.

Hitler didn't have to be inspirational like Martin Luther King was. The Germany before he came to power was a disaster after World War I... The people wanted a savior, and he promised to be one. He actually fulfilled his promises, despite how awful the actions he committed to do so (the public did not know the Nazis were killing the Jews and minorities; they only knew that they were going away- which they didn't object to, since anti-Semitism was very common in Germany). He built up a form of "military" (which wasn't the real military... it was groups like the SA and the SS. The military was only the 100,000 men that was allowed for Germany to have after WWI.), decreased unemployment, made Germany a power country again, etc. That's what the people cared about. Getting out of the ruin they had been in. They wanted someone to save them, and in their minds at the time, Hitler was doing just that. Whether or not Hitler was inspirational depends on the viewpoint- now, of course he would be considered an awful person. But to the Germans then, he was god-like and very much so inspirational.

I don't think other speakers you're talking about are famous speakers for the same reasons Hitler is. He had a way to trick the public- he'd stand in front of a silent stadium filled with hundreds of thousands of people for fifteen, twenty, or thirty minutes just looking at them, building up an anxiousness within the people. When he began to talk, he'd start slowly and quietly. Then he'd build up to the shouting he is famous for. Also, if you watch clips of other prominent Nazi leaders such as Goebbels, Himmler, Donitz, etc. speaking, you'd notice that they used notes. Hitler did not. He is a famous speaker world wide because of his skills, not just what he was saying (which, like I stated above, made him the savior of the German people).

Mr Armstrong.:

Hitler facinates me, I would really like to know how his mind worked.

The Holocaust is not enough to tell how? The death toll of approx. 17 million people during the Holocaust tells so much about his mind. To me..

Josipa:

The Holocaust is not enough to tell how? The death toll of approx. 17 million people during the Holocaust tells so much about his mind. To me..

That's the effect. It doesn't necessarily explain the cause.

I understand this is an oldthread, but I am a huge history fan, and as other aspiring historians would agree, NEVER ever pass up an oppourtunity to let others know your opinion. On this especially because Hitlerism, Facism and WWII are all topics of extreme interest for me.
I think Hitler's actions led to horrific happenings, ones that will likely scar the human race for ever. The anti-seminism in Germany at this time led to the destruction of all morals and tolerance for people whos customs and beliefs might not be the same as our own.
However, he didn't just target the Jewish people, he targeted communist followers and people with mental or physical disabilities. NOT just Hitler, however. He set the idea into motion, sure, but it was his Nazi followers who took the hatred to this whole new level.
He was a mastmind of propaganda. He was extremely intelligent. He was organized and he knew his objectives. He was charasmatic, and agressive, determined and everntually- all of these traits saw his life's end. All of his career's work destroyed.
Was he mad? Perhaps. Am I rambling? Another perhaps.
He had a unparalelled senes of what his people wanted- perhaps his ideas of idealism were just extremely skewed.

AwSugarFrankie:

He was bad. But did you know he wanted to be an artist? and if it wasn't for his father he wouldn't have joined the military? That's a food for thought. He might not have been the man he is today if it wasn't for his father.

It's all in how they're raised. ;)

I think what he did was wrong, but right now I have a large obession with him.
I just wonder what it was like to be his wife...

He was an attractive man. He had power. He was smart. You have to give him that much.

Sink of Exotica.:

I think what he did was wrong, but right now I have a large obession with him.
I just wonder what it was like to be his wife...

He was an attractive man. He had power. He was smart. You have to give him that much.

Attractive...very debatable, but I agree with all the rest. According to most accounts, Eva Braun(sp?), the woman who ended up marrying hitler, greatly enjoyed being mistress and wife to the Fuhrer. She saw him as a great and noble man, and although Hitler didn't have a 'normal' relationship with any woman throughout his life, they appeared to be in love and enjoyed each other's company.

Felidae Evol:

I don't think there needs to be worry of it happening again. There are so many people being more and more open-minded. There are still a lot of snot heads but there are more open-minded people and people who would never act because they know it's a lost cause.

There are multiple totalitarian dictatorships all over the world - that still exist today. Only look at Robert Mugabe and all the terror he has inflicted in Zimbabwe.

The common people supported the Nazi regime because they were afraid of themselves or their loved ones being hurt or killed. That's an attitude that could easily lead to war - even in the modern world. People always seem to argue - "Oh! I would never be corrupted, I'd rather die. I'd never do those horrible things. Blah blah blah". But when you think about it, self-preservation is human nature. In all honestly, most people would sacrifice the life of a stranger they've never met in order to save their loved ones. Most people would carry out their orders if it meant they would survive.

There were numerous youth indoctrination practices that kept the population malleable to Hitlers wishes. This growing pressure to conform is what led to the regimes 'success'. Conform or die basically. If you're entire world existed of the ideologies of the Nazi movement, if everybody you knew conformed, you would too without a single doubt. Otherwise you'd be dead.

Basically, I think Hitler was very attuned to the 'dark side' of human nature and manipulated this knowledge into gaining power for himself. My theory. Tell me if any of this didn't make sense.

Does anyone find it odd that Hitler bestowed such praise on people with Aryan features when he, himself was short and kind of chubby with black hair and brown eyes?

Faceless_time:

Attractive...very debatable, but I agree with all the rest. According to most accounts, Eva Braun(sp?), the woman who ended up marrying hitler, greatly enjoyed being mistress and wife to the Fuhrer. She saw him as a great and noble man, and although Hitler didn't have a 'normal' relationship with any woman throughout his life, they appeared to be in love and enjoyed each other's company.

I agree with this.
But, personally, I think he was a handsome man. I dont know, recently, I've been really into Hitler. Like studying him and stuff.