Hitler

  • Kawng 'ite

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    When Hitler came to rule, Germany faced economical hardships. Most Germans carried all their belongings in a single wheel barrel. A man, with his wife and five young children could be with a single wheelbarrel filled with simple things.

    Hitler was a nationalist. He wanted Germany, as a whole to become a great(er) nation. Making all these promises to the Germans. The people followed them, in hopes to get money for food and to support their families. If they spoke out against him, they would probably be shunned out of Germany. His ideas of it weren't the best, but he had intentions to put Germany on top.

    "Mein Kampf", for those who don't know means "My Struggle" and was written by Hitler while he was in prison. I do believe. I could be wrong about when he wrote it, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.
    May 5th, 2010 at 06:00am
  • kati

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    I read earlier on this, that Britain, America and France could have stopped Hitler in time...but wasn't Hitler warned by Britain that if he 'attacked' one more place (Chekoslovakia), that they would declare war on Germany?? He agreed and said Austria would be the last place he took over, but then went back on his promise...
    I don't know how much of that is true, but my brother the history buff (and consequently a History teacher) told me that.
    August 30th, 2010 at 03:59am
  • mortal peril.

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    ^ Britain and France pretty much allowed Hitler to take part of Czechoslovakia (Sudetenland) - the appeasement policy.
    But then he took the rest of it and I don't know about that. :$
    They still wouldn't have 'stopped' him, though - Hitler committed many of his atrocities, especially towards Jews, before WWII broke out.
    November 6th, 2010 at 10:54am
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    I find it difficult to understand why so many people supported him.
    Hitler was, in my opinion, brilliant. No, I do not support what he did. He was ruthless and despicable; a truly disgusting man. But the fact that he could manipulate that many people? It's literally unbelievable. Disgust
    November 30th, 2010 at 12:53am
  • Ayana Sioux

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    I can understand some of his anger that he formed towards Jews (although it was crazy all in all) but I don't understand the whole "creating an arian race" thing.
    He's smart and stupid all in one. Smart because he got away with his destruction so long by helping Germany get out of their depression after war and keeping the death camps out of Germany. He was smart in invading so many areas to help build up his empire.

    But he was stupid for letting his anger towards the people in control of signing the treaty of Versailles for Germany get the best of him. Killing off all Jew's was stupid. And Judaism isn't a race, it's a religion. One of his arian people could easily decide they wanted to be Jew out of the blue. Trying to create "the perfect race" of people with blond hair and blue eyes is stupid because genes are way too complex for him to just assume that all babies born with parents of blond hair and blue eyes would come out the same. And there's no such thing as the perfect race. He was stupid for invading Russia. He could have won the war if it weren't for that.
    December 1st, 2010 at 10:30pm
  • leaf's a buzzard

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    @ayanasioux: He wasn't necessarily "creating" the aryan race, but propelling it above others. As a result of that there was extreme nationalism that rose out of Germany, seeing as the majority of the population saw themselves as aryan. That allowed Hitler to gain power and bring Germany out of the economic crisis, and attempt to conquer the known world.

    As for the Jews... first of all, Judaism is actually both a race AND a religion, and the two can be seperate. Look it up if you don't believe me, but that's actually true. Second, the reason Hitler persecuted the Jews was also tied into how his idea of nationalism worked. Essentially, propel the aryan race into greatness and blame the country's problems on the Jews, the Gypsies, and the Communists. They saw themselves as the solution and the scapegoats the problem. As awful as it was, it worked.

    And yes, Hitler invading Russia remains to this day one of the stupidest military mistakes in history.
    December 2nd, 2010 at 10:13am
  • dibidus

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    I always feel that even trying to explain what he did is downright degrading the actual tragedy. Every time someone asks me what I think about it I struggle to find the right words because however you look at it, no words can describe the intensity of what really happened.

    And I have to agree with LEAF, that 'Russia move', was even more stupid than that Hannibal's fiasco with Rome. Which to this day I believe was the stupidest mistake a general could make. Fortunate for the world, but just plain stupid.

    And the ironic part is that Hitler wasn't even from Germany.
    December 3rd, 2010 at 04:59pm
  • Ayana Sioux

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    LEAF.:
    As for the Jews... first of all, Judaism is actually both a race AND a religion, and the two can be seperate. .
    No, I don't think Judaism is a race. How could it be? People who practiced it most a while ago were mainly Hebrews therefore that might appeal to be the "Jewish race" but I don't think it's a race. It's really just a religion. That would be like me saying Christianity is a race when it's far from. What I would consider a race is Black, white, brown, red and yellow. And if you really want to get technical then it would be black, white and yellow. That's what I call it. Other than that, I believe everything else is a nationality or, like I said, a religion.
    dibidus:
    And the ironic part is that Hitler wasn't even from Germany.
    I think the most irony was held in the fact that his grandmother practiced Judaism.
    December 5th, 2010 at 04:03am
  • leaf's a buzzard

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    ayanasioux:
    No, I don't think Judaism is a race. How could it be? People who practiced it most a while ago were mainly Hebrews therefore that might appeal to be the "Jewish race" but I don't think it's a race. It's really just a religion. That would be like me saying Christianity is a race when it's far from. What I would consider a race is Black, white, brown, red and yellow. And if you really want to get technical then it would be black, white and yellow. That's what I call it. Other than that, I believe everything else is a nationality or, like I said, a religion.
    I'll clarify it then. The Hebrews are a race of people from the Middle East. They were and still are the ones who practised Judaism, which is for the most part a religion that excludes non-Hebrews from practicing it. There are converts, but the majority of Jews are also Hebrews, which is why Judaism doubles as a religion and a race/ethnicity.

    Christianity, on the other hand, is the polar opposite of Judaism when it comes to matters of race. One of the reasons Christianity spread where Judaism merely existed is because Christianity was open to everyone, not just Hebrews. So it spread through Europe, but keep in mind that "white" is not race, but a blanket term that refers to several races that hail from different parts of Europe, such as the French, British, Italian, German, Scandinavian, Spanish, etc...

    Going on blanket terms, the same can be said of "black", but the case is different because of the slave trade many people completely lost contact with their original ethnicity and that's why "African-American" or "Black" is now considered to be a race.
    December 5th, 2010 at 07:24am
  • Ayana Sioux

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    LEAF.:
    I'll clarify it then. The Hebrews are a race of people from the Middle East. They were and still are the ones who practised Judaism, which is for the most part a religion that excludes non-Hebrews from practicing it. There are converts, but the majority of Jews are also Hebrews, which is why Judaism doubles as a religion and a race/ethnicity.

    Christianity, on the other hand, is the polar opposite of Judaism when it comes to matters of race. One of the reasons Christianity spread where Judaism merely existed is because Christianity was open to everyone, not just Hebrews. So it spread through Europe, but keep in mind that "white" is not race, but a blanket term that refers to several races that hail from different parts of Europe, such as the French, British, Italian, German, Scandinavian, Spanish, etc...

    Going on blanket terms, the same can be said of "black", but the case is different because of the slave trade many people completely lost contact with their original ethnicity and that's why "African-American" or "Black" is now considered to be a race.
    But just because a majority of Hebrews practice Judaism that doesn't mean it's a race. I'm sure they're Hebrews that don't practice Judaism. Does that make them Jew anyway?

    And others would argue that British and Italian and other European countries are merely nationalities and not a race. And the whole thing about black people losing their contact with their African ancestors could easily be said about white people also. I've talked to plenty of white people that just say they're white and know of no ancestors from European countries.

    Many people would argue that white, black, red and etc. could be classified as a race because like you said, it's a blanket term that describes most of them but if I were to look at a German man as apposed to a British man, I wouldn't know what they are much yet German or British. Sure, some characteristics can differentiate the two but all in all the way they look is pretty similar. Same goes for blacks and Asians. Yes, sometimes I can tell a Nigerian from a Kenyan but the easier classification would be black. So most people would probably consider white, black and such and such a race, not just a color.

    Like a lot of people say, there's only the human race (although different colored people act differently in my book) but when discussing race it's usually classified by color. That's why when you sign all the crazy papers you'll have to sign in your life it says "Black, white, Hispanic, Asian," and not "Nigerian, Kenyan, German, Chinese, Japanese".
    December 6th, 2010 at 02:53am
  • leaf's a buzzard

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    ayanasioux:
    But just because a majority of Hebrews practice Judaism that doesn't mean it's a race. I'm sure they're Hebrews that don't practice Judaism. Does that make them Jew anyway?
    Just because the majority of Muslims practice Islam that doesn't mean it's a race then, either, does it?

    There are people who are not Hebrews but still practice Judaism. I had a friend in elementary school who had a Jewish father and his mother wasn't, so they celebrated the holidays of both religions. Even though his mother wasn't of Hebrew descent though, his father was, which still makes him a Jew.

    And for non-Hebrews it's possible to become a Jew, yes, but it's difficult because it requires a lot of study of Hebrew culture and language. If someone who wasn't Jewish wanted to become a Jew then by the time they finished their studying to become one they may not look like a Jew, but they would be one on the inside.

    It's also why the Nazis were able to track down and capture so many Jews. It's based on a person's religion (Judaism), and their ethnicity, including the ethnicity of their parents (Jewish). My fencing instructor had this friend who was serving the Nazi military during World War II when he discovered that he was a Jew. They didn't promote him, obviously, and he fled to America before the holocaust happened. In that case, it wasn't religious, it was based on his race.
    ayanasioux:
    And others would argue that British and Italian and other European countries are merely nationalities and not a race. And the whole thing about black people losing their contact with their African ancestors could easily be said about white people also. I've talked to plenty of white people that just say they're white and know of no ancestors from European countries.

    Many people would argue that white, black, red and etc. could be classified as a race because like you said, it's a blanket term that describes most of them but if I were to look at a German man as apposed to a British man, I wouldn't know what they are much yet German or British. Sure, some characteristics can differentiate the two but all in all the way they look is pretty similar. Same goes for blacks and Asians. Yes, sometimes I can tell a Nigerian from a Kenyan but the easier classification would be black. So most people would probably consider white, black and such and such a race, not just a color.

    Like a lot of people say, there's only the human race (although different colored people act differently in my book) but when discussing race it's usually classified by color. That's why when you sign all the crazy papers you'll have to sign in your life it says "Black, white, Hispanic, Asian," and not "Nigerian, Kenyan, German, Chinese, Japanese".
    After putting a bit more thought into it, yeah. What is there to race other than some kind of blanket term that refers to multiple nationalities/ethnicities so we can be easily categorized based on very broad facial features?

    The culture that comes with race, however, really comes from the person's nationality, not so much the "race".
    December 6th, 2010 at 03:47am
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    ^ Of course Muslim isn't a race. Some African's are Muslim but you might not know it by looking at them would you? I think you're forgetting that during the Holocaust it wasn't just Jews that were killed. It was anybody that wasn't blond haired blue eyed. Anyone who was handicap, homosexual or mentally unstable. So, just by looking at a Jew that doesn't make them automatically know they're Jew. In case you didn't know there have been some cases where Jews were able to get away from being caught because Nazi's didn't know that they were Jew. And like I said I'm sure some Hebrews aren't Jew. I can't think of an instance when "religion" established a "race".

    And I agree with that last statement you said. After getting to know other cultures that have lived around a different culture, they act totally different from people of their own culture.
    December 6th, 2010 at 11:51pm
  • leaf's a buzzard

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    ayanasioux:
    I think you're forgetting that during the Holocaust it wasn't just Jews that were killed. It was anybody that wasn't blond haired blue eyed. Anyone who was handicap, homosexual or mentally unstable. So, just by looking at a Jew that doesn't make them automatically know they're Jew. In case you didn't know there have been some cases where Jews were able to get away from being caught because Nazi's didn't know that they were Jew. And like I said I'm sure some Hebrews aren't Jew. I can't think of an instance when "religion" established a "race".
    I'm pretty sure I touched on that already. The Nazis attempted to kill off all the minorities, which included the Gypsies in addition to the Jews. They also exterminated the Communists in Germany before the Holocaust even happened. Homosexuals too, but one thing you should keep in mind is that during this time in history it wasn't exactly safe for people to be openly Homosexual ANYWHERE in the world. The whole blonde hair blue eyes thing though, is inaccurate seeing as Hitler himself had brown hair.

    Judaism isn't seen as a universal religion, though. It's about the Hebrews, and only the Hebrews. Religion does not establish race, no, but race establishes religion, and that's why "Jewish" is considered to be a race and a religion. They're not separable like white or black is from Christianity because the religion is intertwined in with the race.

    And that's true that some Jews got away from the Nazis, most of which did so before the war broke out, because discrimination against Jews in Germany was terrible before Hitler ever even rose to power. Still more forged papers claiming that they were Christian, instead of Jewish. Many were caught, however, based on the fact that their parents or grandparents were Jewish. It wasn't selection based on their religion, it was based on any trace of Jewish culture in their family tree.
    December 7th, 2010 at 12:24am
  • Ayana Sioux

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    ^ Yes but I seriously don't think it would be considered as a race, though. And it wasn't like Hitler was going to put himself in a concentration camp or gas or burn himself to death. Perhaps he favored blond hair and blue eyes. That doesn't necessarily make it inaccurate.
    December 8th, 2010 at 01:40am
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    ayanasioux:
    ^ Yes but I seriously don't think it would be considered as a race, though. And it wasn't like Hitler was going to put himself in a concentration camp or gas or burn himself to death. Perhaps he favored blond hair and blue eyes. That doesn't necessarily make it inaccurate.
    It's considered to be a race-religion. It's not one and other, it's both simultaneously. It's difficult to describe, really, but that's how it is, and the comparison between Judaism and something like Christianity or Islam doesn't work because of that.

    As for exactly who Hitler killed off, basically everyone except the white people who followed him. Blonde hair and blue eyes were favorable, yes, but no-one to my knowledge was killed because they didn't have blonde hair or blue eyes.
    December 8th, 2010 at 02:09am
  • Ayana Sioux

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    ^ Okay but couldn't you say that the "majority" of people who are Muslim are usually black or west Asian (Middle Eastern)? So couldn't I say that Muslim is a race religion also?

    And to your knowledge up against many other peoples knowledge, it can get a little inaccurate. He either killed people who were non Arian or enslaved them till death.
    December 9th, 2010 at 02:22am
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    ayanasioux:
    ^ Okay but couldn't you say that the "majority" of people who are Muslim are usually black or west Asian (Middle Eastern)? So couldn't I say that Muslim is a race religion also?
    If that were the case, the same could be said of any religion, considering the "majority" of Christians are usually white or black people, or the "majority" of Hindus are from India.
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    And to your knowledge up against many other peoples knowledge, it can get a little inaccurate. He either killed people who were non Arian or enslaved them till death.
    Yes, which is what I said. He killed the Jews, the Gypsies, and the Communists. Who is and isn't Aryan, on the other hand gets a little muddled because "Aryan" and "White" are technically the same thing.
    December 9th, 2010 at 08:48am
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    But when he was referring to Aryan, he was applying to blond hair and blue eyed people.
    December 9th, 2010 at 10:33pm
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    ayanasioux:
    But when he was referring to Aryan, he was applying to blond hair and blue eyed people.
    That was the ideal idea, yes. But there are/were plenty of Germans who weren't Jewish etc. but just didn't happen to have blonde hair and blue eyes. They weren't persecuted simply because they didn't have such features.
    December 9th, 2010 at 11:56pm
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    Yeah, they were either persecuted or enslaved.
    December 10th, 2010 at 10:16pm