Purgatory

Do you think it exists?

And other thoughts on it here.

...what's purgatory...? :shifty [/heathen]

Leonore Paisley:

...what's purgatory...? :shifty [/heathen]

Purgatory is kind of like a final purification. It's supposedly a place not in heaven, nor in hell, nor on Earth. A place where our souls will wait and prepare until Judgement Day.
It's necessary, because it gives us a last chance to purify ourselves before meeting God in heaven, since nothing unclean can enter there.

Purgatory is pretty much purely a Catholic ideal, though it is not wholly rejected by other religions.
I am a Catholic, and so this idea has been taught to me since I was small.
I say, why not Purgatory?
For now, I believe it. It makes sense.
If it turns out that there is no such place, then oh, well. God knows what He's doing.

I believe in it.
It's the most logical theory I've heard for people who did bad to be good or did bad without the intention of harming others.

I don't really know...Possibly.
Heavens own little jail.
I don't even know if I believe in Heaven.
All questions will be answered when we die I guess.
:shifty

Ooh, like, Limbo, in that retarded Toothless movie?

Piccolo the Great:

Leonore Paisley:

...what's purgatory...? :shifty [/heathen]

Purgatory is kind of like a final purification. It's supposedly a place not in heaven, nor in hell, nor on Earth. A place where our souls will wait and prepare until Judgement Day.
It's necessary, because it gives us a last chance to purify ourselves before meeting God in heaven, since nothing unclean can enter there.

Purgatory is pretty much purely a Catholic ideal, though it is not wholly rejected by other religions.
I am a Catholic, and so this idea has been taught to me since I was small.
I say, why not Purgatory?
For now, I believe it. It makes sense.
If it turns out that there is no such place, then oh, well. God knows what He's doing.

So, it's kind of like being in Limbo? Except so that you can purify yourself?

Personally, I don't believe in it, because I am not Christian. But, I think it's a cool concept. :D

Is it the same thing as Limbo? Or can you not get out of Limbo?

We just went over this in church school about a month ago. Purgatory is the place where people who aren't canonized saints go when they die. You stay there until God deems you perfect. It is a place where you are in immense pain (most likely emotional because you would have no body.)

I think it's real. God knows everyone has done something of sin so there must be a final place to serve penance.

Umbrella Pwnage:

We just went over this in church school about a month ago. Purgatory is the place where people who aren't canonized saints go when they die. You stay there until God deems you perfect. It is a place where you are in immense pain (most likely emotional because you would have no body.)

I think it's real. God knows everyone has done something of sin so there must be a final place to serve penance.

well, if you're dead, isn't that enough punishment? :shifty

Jepha Howard.:

Umbrella Pwnage:

We just went over this in church school about a month ago. Purgatory is the place where people who aren't canonized saints go when they die. You stay there until God deems you perfect. It is a place where you are in immense pain (most likely emotional because you would have no body.)

I think it's real. God knows everyone has done something of sin so there must be a final place to serve penance.

well, if you're dead, isn't that enough punishment? :shifty

... only if you consider death something bad, to be feared ....
I think the worst part of death is losing loved ones to it / leaving loved ones.

Umbrella Pwnage:

We just went over this in church school about a month ago. Purgatory is the place where people who aren't canonized saints go when they die. You stay there until God deems you perfect. It is a place where you are in immense pain (most likely emotional because you would have no body.)

I think it's real. God knows everyone has done something of sin so there must be a final place to serve penance.

Whoa, that's not what I learned.
I was never taught that you are in immense pain there. It's more like a waiting room.
Supposedly, saints and the like go straight to heaven because of their deep relationship with God. Plus, it's humans who canonize saints. I think that it's more God's right to say who is and who is not worthy of paradise.

And I don't think that we have to be perfect to be accepted into heaven. We simply have to be ready.

Pestilence.:

Is it the same thing as Limbo? Or can you not get out of Limbo?

Limbo is more like the outskirts of hell, put simply, although it has many, many different interpretations. Kind of like Purgatory, but not quite.

Piccolo the Great:

And I don't think that we have to be perfect to be accepted into heaven. We simply have to be ready.

There is a story in the bible explaining the perfect thing.
It's about this party. A rich person is hosting it and all the people invited are wealthy and well dressed. A homeless, poor old man comes in and sees the host (God) he is speechless in front of him, due to his wealth.
So if we were like the old man and not perfect we would be speechless in front of God and his host.
Otherwise purgatory would just be a place where you are like, "Hm... I don't think I'm ready to go up heaven yet. Nah on second thought I am.'
That's what I think at least.

Umbrella Pwnage:

There is a story in the bible explaining the perfect thing.
It's about this party. A rich person is hosting it and all the people invited are wealthy and well dressed. A homeless, poor old man comes in and sees the host (God) he is speechless in front of him, due to his wealth.
So if we were like the old man and not perfect we would be speechless in front of God and his host.
Otherwise purgatory would just be a place where you are like, "Hm... I don't think I'm ready to go up heaven yet. Nah on second thought I am.'
That's what I think at least.

But as humans, we just can't be perfect. We are not perfect beings.
We can only be as what God wants us to be, you know? We can be the best that we can be.
I don't think that anyone could possibly be wholly prepared for meeting God. I can't even fathom how spectacularly scary that will be.
And I don't think that we get to decide when we're ready. That's God's call, I would believe. Since He makes the final Judgment and all.

Piccolo the Great:

But as humans, we just can't be perfect. We are not perfect beings.
We can only be as what God wants us to be, you know? We can be the best that we can be.
I don't think that anyone could possibly be wholly prepared for meeting God. I can't even fathom how spectacularly scary that will be.
And I don't think that we get to decide when we're ready. That's God's call, I would believe. Since He makes the final Judgment and all.

That's what I mean. Not perfect by human standards but God's. Which is the best we can be. And when we are in purgatory we wait there being absolved of our sins. And abut the pain thing. It's just kind of like physcological pain. Just knowing that you can't see God. That sort of thing. At least that's what they taught me at church.

I don't believe in it. At all.

You're given one chance. Not two, not three. This life is what we're judged on. When it's over you're judged. Not years later. That to me doesn't make a bit of sense.

Geesecks.:

I don't believe in it. At all.

You're given one chance. Not two, not three. This life is what we're judged on. When it's over you're judged. Not years later. That to me doesn't make a bit of sense.

I'm pretty sure you don't really do anything in purgatory so it's not really a second chance. You just make penance for you minor sins. If you killed a guy or something and died without confession I'm pretty sure you'd go to Hell.

Umbrella Pwnage:

Geesecks.:

I don't believe in it. At all.

You're given one chance. Not two, not three. This life is what we're judged on. When it's over you're judged. Not years later. That to me doesn't make a bit of sense.

I'm pretty sure you don't really do anything in purgatory so it's not really a second chance. You just make penance for you minor sins. If you killed a guy or something and died without confession I'm pretty sure you'd go to Hell.

In God's eyes all sins are equal. :file: Except for blasphemy.

Geesecks.:

You're given one chance. Not two, not three. This life is what we're judged on. When it's over you're judged. Not years later. That to me doesn't make a bit of sense.

Well, I don't think that purgatory really works like that. I don't consider it to be an afterlife of sorts... I think that it's in a league of its own, sort of.
We're not judged there, I don't believe, but we do prepare for that judgment.
Apparently, at the least.

Piccolo the Great:

Geesecks.:

You're given one chance. Not two, not three. This life is what we're judged on. When it's over you're judged. Not years later. That to me doesn't make a bit of sense.

Well, I don't think that purgatory really works like that. I don't consider it to be an afterlife of sorts... I think that it's in a league of its own, sort of.
We're not judged there, I don't believe, but we do prepare for that judgment.
Apparently, at the least.

But... that doesn't even make sense. Why would God send us to wait for our judgement? It's like 'yeah, you're going to Hell, but not for another couple of years.:cute:'

Erh, no.