Vegan/vegetarians

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Kaysicles
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July 29th, 2008 at 09:37am
evan black.:
I have a friend who is a vegan and he does not get the proper amount of iron, protein or anything. I'm not saying all vegans don't but, my friend surely doesn't. He has pale, pale skin, he's about 5'5 and weighs 92 pounds, and has fainted on several occasions because he hadn't ate that day. Although, that may simply be his mother starving him.


He's obviously not eating right. I've been a vegan for 16 years and I've not once had problems with my weight, and I'm pale only because it's in my genes to be pale.
If he's not getting his iron or protein and all that other good stuff, maybe you could talk him into seeing a doctor and asking some questions?
It would be horrible for him to get too sick. No
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July 29th, 2008 at 07:51pm
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I became a vegetarian because I think it's gross. When you eat a burger, what your putting in your mouth was once an actual living thing, it had feelings, and now your mashing it up with your teeth.


... I'm not trying to be mean, but cows are cuddly and cute- no feelings. They don't have a large enough neo cortex to comprehend what humans do.

Iero.:

You wouldn't eat your pet dog, so why is it okay to eat pigs and cows ect?

xx


First off, don't sign xx at the end of your posts, as it is counted as spam. You may add it to your signature if you'd like.

Secondly, every type of animal is eaten on the globe. It just so happens that the Anglo-saxons waste more of the animal then they use. In other countries, they wholy use the animal and they need it, too.

There are places where they eat dog. It's a cultural thing.


First, thanks for the 'xx' thing, I'll keep that in mind.

Second, anything with a brain has feelings and emotions. I'm not saying it's like a dog and will sit at your feet and grow attatched to you or whatever, but it still has feelings.

Third...I don't have a point to make to that, because you made a good point. *Pouts in defeat*. lmao!
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July 30th, 2008 at 03:33am
I honestly don't know how vegans survive....
Chocolate and cheese ... I can't live without either.

I don't eat meat, of any kind though.

I'm wondering... can you be a vegetarian and eat eggs? Since the egg was never GOING to be a chicken, it's not really eating an animal. I don't eat them, but I'm just wondering.

My school has soy nuggets 8D
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July 30th, 2008 at 03:41am
There are different types of vegetarians. 'Strict' vegetarians, also vegans, don't eat any animal product. Then you get ovovegetarians, who eat eggs and dair products, pescovegetarians who eat fish, and semivegetarians who eat everything but red meat.
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July 30th, 2008 at 03:52am
Ahh, then I suppose I'm a ovovegetarian. I drink milk and eat cheese :/
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July 30th, 2008 at 06:11am
Iero.:


First, thanks for the 'xx' thing, I'll keep that in mind.

Second, anything with a brain has feelings and emotions. I'm not saying it's like a dog and will sit at your feet and grow attatched to you or whatever, but it still has feelings.

Third...I don't have a point to make to that, because you made a good point. *Pouts in defeat*. lmao!

Oh, animals do grow attached. Everything does, but they do not have the same emotions or comprehension of humans. They lack the correctly sized neocortex, which is the area of the brain that makes us human. I wouldn't say superior, but human.

How does celery have emotion?
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July 30th, 2008 at 12:39pm
Scarecrow Angel:
There are different types of vegetarians. 'Strict' vegetarians, also vegans, don't eat any animal product. Then you get ovovegetarians, who eat eggs and dair products, pescovegetarians who eat fish, and semivegetarians who eat everything but red meat.


I'm ovovegetarian then. : D

Yayy, ovo sounds cool. XD

I became a vegetarian because I don't like the fact that it was once filled with blood... it feels unsafe to eat and I'm afraid that if I eat it, I'll get food poisening.

It's not as if I won't go near the stuff or I avoid it because I'm super scared or anything... I just won't eat it. ^^

The rest of my family are meat eaters, though. (:
I do feel a tinsy bit like most vegetarians how I look at it and think that usedf to be an animal... But I don't like.. protest or anything.

I think that vegetarians who shove it in others faces.. *As seen on my only ever journal post* are completely out of order to do that.

If people want to eat meat, let them.
Cows and that are only bred for eating.
They would never survive in teh wild if they weren't protected by farmers and kept warm and such.

So actually, being eaten is giving them life.
It's stopping them from turning extinct.

Goodness me.
Rant over.
^^
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July 31st, 2008 at 04:28pm
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Ahh, then I suppose I'm a ovovegetarian. I drink milk and eat cheese :/

Then you're lacto-ovo. Con Join the club! *highfive*

Iero.:
Second, anything with a brain has feelings and emotions. I'm not saying it's like a dog and will sit at your feet and grow attatched to you or whatever, but it still has feelings

Pigs are as smart as dogs!

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Cows and that are only bred for eating.
They would never survive in teh wild if they weren't protected by farmers and kept warm and such.

So actually, being eaten is giving them life.
It's stopping them from turning extinct.

Not necessarily. Cows were obviously wild before we started farming them, they didn't come out of thin air. If they were still wild I'm sure they would have adapted. Every animal does to survive.

And that's actually the part I disagree with most about eating meat. You're eating something that's been bred to die. That seems too wrong to me. It's playing God on such a ridiculous scale, deciding where and when another living thing will live and die.

If we were still all cave people who hunted meat in the wild to stay alive, I would be a proud meat eater. The only thing people hunt for in the modern world, is fun. Life is taken so lightly these days, it seems.
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August 1st, 2008 at 01:21pm
Alright, I'm freaking out. My and my friend are both vegetarians have to disect a lamb's brain in science. We got a new science teacher who thinks that being a vegetarian is stupid and isn't a good enough excuse to miss out on the class, so we have to do it.

I'm scared. Cry
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August 1st, 2008 at 01:31pm
^^

They can't force you to do anything like that. Get your parents to write a letter telling the teacher that they refuse to let you take part in that lesson, and if they still make you do it - take a stand by skipping that class. It's breaking rules - yeah, but at least you're standing up for yourself.
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August 1st, 2008 at 04:25pm
^^ Just refuse to do it. I never done dissection in class, and I didn't even tell my teacher I was vegetarian. I just said I didn't agree with it and didn't move over to the lab desks when the activity started. The teachers can't force a scalpel into your hands.

If you don't want to skip or be stubborn, just say you're really squeamish. Thats worked for me before.
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August 2nd, 2008 at 10:01am
Usually my science teacher would be fine with it, but we have gotten a new one and he is really strict. I'm trying to get my mother to write a note. Cute
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August 2nd, 2008 at 12:12pm
pulmonary archery.:

Not necessarily. Cows were obviously wild before we started farming them, they didn't come out of thin air. If they were still wild I'm sure they would have adapted. Every animal does to survive.

-cough- The Dodo -cough-
Uh... No.
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August 2nd, 2008 at 12:16pm
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Not necessarily. Cows were obviously wild before we started farming them, they didn't come out of thin air. If they were still wild I'm sure they would have adapted. Every animal does to survive.

-cough- The Dodo -cough-
Uh... No.


The dodo went extinct. What does that have to do with cows adapting to survive?
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August 2nd, 2008 at 12:18pm
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pulmonary archery.:

Not necessarily. Cows were obviously wild before we started farming them, they didn't come out of thin air. If they were still wild I'm sure they would have adapted. Every animal does to survive.

-cough- The Dodo -cough-
Uh... No.


The dodo went extinct. What does that have to do with cows adapting to survive?


"Every animal does to survive."
Did the Dodo?
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-cough- The Dodo -cough-
Uh... No.


The dodo went extinct. What does that have to do with cows adapting to survive?



"Every animal does to survive."
Did the Dodo?



Did the Dodo adapt to survive? Most likely. As said before, most animals adapt to survive in the wild. It's natural instinct.
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Did the Dodo adapt to survive? Most likely. As said before, most animals adapt to survive in the wild. It's natural instinct.


The dodo obviously didn't, or else it would be here today.

I get your point but... we never know what could have happen as opposed to what did. The cow could have gone extinct without our breeding. We could have saved the dodo.

Also, I don't think in animals adaptation is as much of an instinct as it is in humans, especially the more simplistic a creature is. Dolphins are the most adaptive besides humans, I do believe.
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August 2nd, 2008 at 12:44pm
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Did the Dodo adapt to survive? Most likely. As said before, most animals adapt to survive in the wild. It's natural instinct.


The dodo obviously didn't, or else it would be here today.

I get your point but... we never know what could have happen as opposed to what did. The cow could have gone extinct without our breeding. We could have saved the dodo.

Also, I don't think in animals adaptation is as much of an instinct as it is in humans, especially the more simplistic a creature is. Dolphins are the most adaptive besides humans, I do believe.


You're getting confused between surviving and adapting to survive. Just because an animal adapts to survive doesn't mean it necessarily will. It trys to survive by adapting.

And dolphins? I guess that's cause they are mammals like us.
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You're getting confused between surviving and adapting to survive. Just because an animal adapts to survive doesn't mean it necessarily will. It trys to survive by adapting.

And dolphins? I guess that's cause they are mammals like us.


You may be right. Probably are.

And no, it isn't. It's because they have a nicely sized neo cortex, which I studied and... it's a good size.
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August 2nd, 2008 at 01:14pm
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You're getting confused between surviving and adapting to survive. Just because an animal adapts to survive doesn't mean it necessarily will. It trys to survive by adapting.

And dolphins? I guess that's cause they are mammals like us.


You may be right. Probably are.

And no, it isn't. It's because they have a nicely sized neo cortex, which I studied and... it's a good size.


Oh well, I guess that explains it.
I think we may be getting a bit off topic here. XD

I was talking to a girl that works near me the other day and she said she was vegetarian because it was cool. So apparently now where I live it's the "in" thing.