GOD. REAL OR FAKE.

Rossen:

Time doesn't REALLY exist, it's just something people made up to keep track of the duration of things.

The physicists of the world would disagree with you.

Leonore Paisley:

I don't understand what you mean. You accept his existance, but you don't believe in him? Maany people are bireligious. There are many Buddhists that have accepted Jesus into their lives and others are like that to.

Hm, i mean i don't belive in GOD as a Magical thingy that made stuff, but i do belive that people beliving in him made it real, after all havn't GOD (Or the idea of god) effected the world more so then anything else? Yeah i guess i'm Buddhists I accept them into my life, but i don't specially believe in them.

Kurtni Monroe:

Rossen:

Time doesn't REALLY exist, it's just something people made up to keep track of the duration of things.

The physicists of the world would disagree with you.

It's not a matter it's just an idea people use to keep track of the duration or things. Sure there is "time" that things grow old and bla bla, BUT time as a physical thing, doesn't exist.
You can never alter time itself(Maybe alter ((Usually slow down)) the age of something), because it's simply doesn't exist.

Rossen:

It's not a matter it's just an idea people use to keep track of the duration or things. Sure there is "time" that things grow old and bla bla, BUT time as a physical thing, doesn't exist.

So because time doesn't exist as a physical thing, it doesn't exist at all?
Does that mean that the contents of vacuums; which by definition, have nothing physical in them, don't exist?

A vacuum has physical effects on things.. SUCKING, gravity also, but those are physical and have effect on things. "Time" doesn't. You can manipulate a vacuum, you can never manipulate "time"

I can't decide if I believe in god or not.
I mean while I would like to believe there is someone sitting on a cloud somewhere looking out for us... I would also like to believe there's a fat man in a red suit that gives us presents.
And all the bad stuff that happens to good people...
And the Big Bang vs God-made-this-awesome-garden theory.

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Once again: You're awesome. That made me laugh.

I think there's a purpose for us all. I want to believe I have a purpose. But lately I've been moving away from my faith. It's like I don't even care. But in my spiritual high, I was so happy. Sometimes I want that back, but a lot of my stories have unspiritual stuff and sex and blah. I don't want to give up my writing, though. It's the only thing I'm semi-good at.

Rossen:

BUT time as a physical thing, doesn't exist.
You can never alter time itself(Maybe alter ((Usually slow down)) the age of something), because it's simply doesn't exist.

Do you know what the theory of general relativity is?

Sure, but that still doesn't prove anything about "time" just time dilation, that slow down something, not alter "time"

Leonore Paisley:

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Once again: You're awesome. That made me laugh.

It made me laugh as well. It's got some good points.

Rossen:

Sure, but that still doesn't prove anything about "time" just time dilation, that slow down something, not alter "time"

Are you sure you know what the theory of general relativity is?

Yeah i'm pretty sure i know the just of it. :p
I assume you are talking about Gravitational time dilation.

wiki:

Gravitational time dilation is the effect of time passing at different rates in regions of different gravitational potential; the higher the local distortion of spacetime due to gravity, the slower time passes.

"This has been demonstrated by noting that atomic clocks"

That doesn't prove anything, and plus what if an austronous went outside of earth's gravitational poss would he age 10 years in 10 seconds? since another theory in there is that things that move at great speed time slows down for them, since we are ALL moving millions of miles per second on earth, if he broke out of earth gravitational field and was in free space wouldn't time pass ALOT faster for him? Since we are here moving on earth, time should pass slow for us right?
Going outside will put people back to "normal" speed of time. And don't tell me time doesn't exist outside of earth. There were many deep space explorations where they sent satellites and such far away from earth's gravitational field, shouldn't they "time" move alot faster for them? It doesn't, there for there is no "time". Einstein may have come up with many brilliant theories and discoveries but basing this theory on a few OLD non digital (analog) clocks he send into higher altitudes is just silly.

There for "Time" doesn't ACTUALY exist. IN YOUR FACE EINSTAIN!

^ Space probs (digital ones dear) have been sent into deep space and are travelling at high speeds covering massive distances and they have discovered a bend in time. They are bending with time and space but they cannot escape it, because time is there it will not go away. Time exists, everywhere in the universe.


Or in another manner one cycle of the earth around the sun is a year. Time. Plain and simple. It just takes that long. It takes time.

And waht before the calender was invented? i belive it was Julious ceasor who came up with the modert 1 year calender, a year was not a full year before, it could be whatever man wants it to be, it's just organization. "Time" Itself as something that is there does not exist, it's just an idea or whatever that people use for organization. I'm not debating the meaning of the word "time" i'm debating "time" itself.

And my point was that WE are traveling at billions miles per hour, so anything outside of earth should age dramaticly. the theory was "proven" with billions of time smallers speeds then the earth travels, so anything outside should age dramaticly, but it doesn't. Why does a Space prob need to travel fast anyway? can it go faster than EARTH? On the contrary, traveling slow or not moving at all should (to us on earth) make it seem to age really fast, but it doens't. Einstain's theory was never completly proven, and many questions are not answered.

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After Googleing around and reading many articles on this(Most of them my well known and trusted sources), it does indeed seem that time more likely doesn't actually exist. So whatever way you choose to reply to this or whatever i won't debate(reply) anymore, i've made my point. Just search for yourself.
Have a nice day.

Rossen:

it's just an idea or whatever that people use for organization. I'm not debating the meaning of the word "time" i'm debating "time" itself.

No you aren't, because you clearly aren't grasping the type of time we're talking about. Things such as hours, minutes, years - whatever are "ideas" to measure time, they aren't literally time. Times existance has nothing to do with "whatever that people use for organization" like you're discussing.

Rossen:

And my point was that WE are traveling at billions miles per hour, so anything outside of earth should age dramaticly.

Time is relative, therefore...

Rossen:

Going outside will put people back to "normal" speed of time.

there is no "normal" time.

Rossen:

After Googleing around and reading many articles on this(Most of them my well known and trusted sources), it does indeed seem that time more likely doesn't actually exist.

Such as?

Rossen:

you can never manipulate "time"

Not true. You said you knew what time dilation was... are you sure?

Rossen:

i've made my point

And the point you've made has been proven wrong.

I saw you say you no longer wished to discuss this topic, however if you change your mind we should move our discussion to this thread because it's offtopic here.

Rossen:

A vacuum has physical effects on things.. SUCKING, gravity also, but those are physical and have effect on things. "Time" doesn't. You can manipulate a vacuum, you can never manipulate "time"

So if humans can't manipulate something, then it doesn't exist?

A book.
One book that was heavily edited by King James.