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Arrjay:'
Writer's Block
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Posts: 27 | August 7th, 2008 at 11:06pm penis-chan:I dont believe in any type of god B/
Any reason why or...?  |
Miss.Smiles
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Age: 17
Gender: Female
Posts: 1030 | August 10th, 2008 at 01:57am I believe that God is real
and he's going to return and destroy the earth by burning it
to purify it.
I'm a seventh day Adventist.
And I believe in the Bible and that there is only one God. |
clouds and cities
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Age: 14
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Posts: 1144 | August 10th, 2008 at 07:01am If you believe in God, you really have no proof except your own faith. When I talk to people about it, they can never give me an answer except their own beliefs. |
ChemicallyImbalanced
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Posts: 10214 | August 10th, 2008 at 01:00pm Fluff;:If you believe in God, you really have no proof except your own faith. When I talk to people about it, they can never give me an answer except their own beliefs.
Should they have to give you an answer? |
varkatzas.
all about control.
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Posts: 5198 | August 10th, 2008 at 01:48pm ChemicallyImbalanced:Fluff;:If you believe in God, you really have no proof except your own faith. When I talk to people about it, they can never give me an answer except their own beliefs.
Should they have to give you an answer?
Not necessarily, but other than the bible and faith I don't find God logical. Though, I'm not an expert on the bible or anything else so I can't really say much other than I don't believe and I'd like logical answers from people once in awhile.
If people could give proof of God other than the bible and faith, non-believers would probably be more respectful of religion. Not to say they aren't, but more likely to believe. I made no sense with that last paragraph. |
Geesecks.
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Age: 22
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Posts: 3004 | August 11th, 2008 at 03:58am varkatzas.:ChemicallyImbalanced:Fluff;:If you believe in God, you really have no proof except your own faith. When I talk to people about it, they can never give me an answer except their own beliefs.
Should they have to give you an answer?
Not necessarily, but other than the bible and faith I don't find God logical. Though, I'm not an expert on the bible or anything else so I can't really say much other than I don't believe and I'd like logical answers from people once in awhile.
If people could give proof of God other than the bible and faith, non-believers would probably be more respectful of religion. Not to say they aren't, but more likely to believe. I made no sense with that last paragraph.
Well, you see, no one knows everything. Even scientists with all their theories and ideas can't answer everything. That's why they're called theories, and not facts. Even most of the so called 'facts' in science are debatable.
I don't think people should have to have proof of their beliefs to get respect. As in: I don't believe in evolution, but you don't see me in that thread demanding people to 'prove it' to me, or pointing out 'holes' in the theory. I simply let them believe what they want. I'm not going to try and tell people what to believe or argue with their opinions. |
Kurtni O'Hara
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Posts: 3417 | August 11th, 2008 at 04:08am Geesecks.:Well, you see, no one knows everything.
Do we need to?
Even scientists with all their theories and ideas can't answer everything. That's why they're called theories, and not facts. Even most of the so called 'facts' in science are debatable.
Geesecks.:I don't think people should have to have proof of their beliefs to get respect. As in: I don't believe in evolution, but you don't see me in that thread demanding people to 'prove it' to me, or pointing out 'holes' in the theory. I simply let them believe what they want. I'm not going to try and tell people what to believe or argue with their opinions.
This is a discussion forum, if you don't want your beliefs criticized and examined then this might not be the place to be posting. I don't see how simply disagreeing and debating means you're disrespecting someones beliefs.
Without evidence or proof, what has a theory done to earn respect and be considered credible? |
Geesecks.
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Age: 22
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Posts: 3004 | August 11th, 2008 at 04:37am Kurtni Ramone:
Do we need to?
No, and that was my point. We're merely humans, not God, so we don't have the answers for everything.
Kurtni Ramone:
This is a discussion forum, if you don't want your beliefs criticized and examined then this might not be the place to be posting. I don't see how simply disagreeing and debating means you're disrespecting someones beliefs.
Without evidence or proof, what has a theory done to earn respect and be considered credible?
Disagreeing isn't scarily disrespectful, though the ways some do it, is very disrespectful. It's almost in a mocking tone.
What proof is there that God doesn't exist? None, but I don't disrespect your beliefs. It's not my place to pick apart every little thing you believe. I haven't and I won't.
Religion is a personal choice; it's something that everyone has a right to. Why not respect it? It doesn't involve you. Why not agree to disagree? |
Kurtni O'Hara
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Posts: 3417 | August 11th, 2008 at 05:05am Geesecks.:Disagreeing isn't scarily disrespectful, though the ways some do it, is very disrespectful. It's almost in a mocking tone.
Well of course mocking is disrespectful, I agree.
Geesecks.:What proof is there that God doesn't exist? None, but I don't disrespect your beliefs. It's not my place to pick apart every little thing you believe. I haven't and I won't.
I believe I have made this post about 60 billion times in various threads, but I never get tired of it...
Do you have proof that a pink leprachaun dancing in your closet doesn't exist? No, but do you believe that? No, because you have no reason to.It would be illogical to believe in that, you have no proof. I don't see why we should blindly believe in religion either.
Geesecks.:Religion is a personal choice; it's something that everyone has a right to. Why not respect it? It doesn't involve you. Why not agree to disagree?
It doesn't involve me?  I beg to differ. Religion plays a very prominent role in everyones lives, regardless of if you practice or not. Religion effects the government, religion effects cultures and relations between different people. Not to mention the fact that that I, personally, find religion to be harmful and manipulative. I completely respect people and their right to practice religion, but I have absolutely no reason to respect religion.
Geesecks.:Why not agree to disagree?
Because I think indifference is one of the most terrible things in the world. We have voices, we should use them for standing up for what we believe in. |
Geesecks.
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Age: 22
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Posts: 3004 | August 11th, 2008 at 05:27am Kurtni Ramone:
I believe I have made this post about 60 billion times in various threads, but I never get tired of it...
Do you have proof that a pink leprachaun dancing in your closet doesn't exist? No, but do you believe that? No, because you have no reason to.It would be illogical to believe in that, you have no proof. I don't see why we should blindly believe in religion either.
I don't blindly believe in religion. It's not so much pyshical as it is spiritual. It's something you have to experience for yourself to understand; to connect with. No, I've never seen God, and I can't point to anything concrete for you to see, but I've felt His presence. It's not something that can be explained, though I truely wish I could put it into words. It's something you feel, not something you see. Though I believe one day I will see Him. 
Kurtni Ramone:
It doesn't involve me? I beg to differ. Religion plays a very prominent role in everyones lives, regardless of if you practice or not. Religion effects the government, religion effects cultures and relations between different people. Not to mention the fact that that I, personally, find religion to be harmful and manipulative. I completely respect people and their right to practice religion, but I have absolutely no reason to respect religion.
I meant that my personal belief in God does not involve you. The government is the one that makes the choices, and a lot of it does involve religion, yes, but that doesn't mean that everyone that is Christian holds the same beliefs, nor does it mean that every choice involving such is a bad thing.
I find it to be the lack of God that what causes the problems; not the actual belief. Without God, how is the world supposed to function correctly? It's overrun by evil. Because a lack of God is what allows evil to thrive. You ever notice over time less and less people believe, and more and more corruption occurs? The world is headed to an end soon.
Kurtni Ramone:Why not agree to disagree?
Because I think indifference is one of the most terrible things in the world. We have voices, we should use them for standing up for what we believe in.
Well, it depends on what you mean by 'indifference'. Respect is a two way street, and if you don't show it, you sholudn't expect it in return. Yes, we have voices, but we also have control over them, and shouldn't abuse it just because we can.
There have always been religious people; there always will be. There's really no sense in telling people they're wrong. No one will ever convince me that God doesn't exist. Never.
I'll be heading out now, you can reply to this, but I won't be coming back. I just had a few points to make, and I'm done. |
clouds and cities
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Posts: 1144 | August 12th, 2008 at 06:23am [quote="varkatzas."] ChemicallyImbalanced:Fluff;:If you believe in God, you really have no proof except your own faith. When I talk to people about it, they can never give me an answer except their own beliefs.
Should they have to give you an answer?
When I argue with someone about it, (which is basically whenever it's brought up since I can't control my big mouth  ) I ask for proof. They really can never give me any hard evidence.
I don't mind if you believe in God, but I seriously hate people bringing it up. I get rather offended when people say "You should thank God for____" etc, or "God bless you." It's just... annoying. And especially when muic/TV stars bring it up. It's just... ugh. |
Arrjay:'
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Posts: 27 | August 12th, 2008 at 11:28am Geesecks.:
Well, you see, no one knows everything. Even scientists with all their theories and ideas can't answer everything. That's why they're called theories, and not facts. Even most of the so called 'facts' in science are debatable.
You do realize there are no facts at all right? It could all just be in our heads, for all we know, we might not be even living, it's all just a crazy dream.
Sorry, had to point that out. =) |
Skrillex.
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Posts: 1172 | August 12th, 2008 at 04:25pm Arrjay:':Geesecks.:
Well, you see, no one knows everything. Even scientists with all their theories and ideas can't answer everything. That's why they're called theories, and not facts. Even most of the so called 'facts' in science are debatable.
You do realize there are no facts at all right? It could all just be in our heads, for all we know, we might not be even living, it's all just a crazy dream.
Sorry, had to point that out. =)
But what if it's not in our head? And what if we are living, and it's not a crazy dream?
Gotta think both ways.  Also, Geesecks pointed out that that they're theories and not facts, so she obviously realizes.
Just thought I'd say.  |
Piccolo the Great
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Posts: 340 | August 12th, 2008 at 04:25pm Arrjay:':You do realize there are no facts at all right? It could all just be in our heads, for all we know, we might not be even living, it's all just a crazy dream.
Sorry, had to point that out. =) It's thoughts like this that will destroy humanity as we know it. -_-
I think that a belief in God lies first and most often in the teachings of a child's parents. My parents are both very religious, very Catholic. I was simply brought up to put all of my love and trust in God.
But more than a decade later, with my own thoughts and experiences, I truly believe even harder that there is a God out there, and that he loves us all in a way that even the firmest believer couldn't possibly understand.
I think that it's this need to understand that gets people so rattled up. I'm dearly sorry that the universe cannot be explained in a sentence; you must realize that there are things in life that are ultimately beyond human comprehension.
All it takes is a moment, a feeling, a happiness, to know that God is there, and always was.
Hard evidence? If you would give God a chance, you would see it all over the place, dears. I see it--I feel it--in every single little thing that I've ever experienced. And once you've felt something like I have, there is no way that I could deny His presence.
Some of the strongest minds in the world, be them scientists or philosophers, have broken through a stubbornness and let themselves see God. Obviously, they've found the evidence that their work thrives on. It's an open, generous secret that you're either born with, or will find eventually. |
Kurtni O'Hara
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Posts: 3417 | August 12th, 2008 at 04:44pm Piccolo the Great:
Hard evidence? If you would give God a chance, you would see it all over the place, dears. I see it--I feel it--in every single little thing that I've ever experienced. And once you've felt something like I have, there is no way that I could deny His presence.
..Dears? 
Hard evidence is not an emotion or feeling, its something that can be proven. If you see hard evidence everywhere, surely you could give one example....? |
NegggativeNancy.
Amateur Author
Age: 15
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Posts: 139 | August 12th, 2008 at 05:21pm Personally, I don't believe in him, but I don't judge others who do. |
dysfunctional.
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Posts: 79 | August 12th, 2008 at 06:37pm QuoteI find it to be the lack of God that what causes the problems; not the actual belief. Without God, how is the world supposed to function correctly? It's overrun by evil. Because a lack of God is what allows evil to thrive. You ever notice over time less and less people believe, and more and more corruption occurs? The world is headed to an end soon.
I beg to differ. I rather think it's the opposite. Religion has caused so many wars throughout history. Are you forgetting World War II as an example? Millions of jews, dead. Now if everyone believed in one religion the exact same way, that might work. But when is that ever going to happen? It's absurd to think that religion doesn't cause problems.
Religion causes every kind of problem that you can think of. Religion interferes with everything when it shouldn't. You believe in God? Fine. The rest of us that don't, don't care. But when government and such tries to enforce religion with laws and such, now that most definitely causes problems. Most republicans are Christian. There's this whole abortion shit and a gazillion other stuff.
The world is headed to an end soon. Wow. And you're inclined to think that if we all believed in God, the world wouldn't end? Who's to say that the world wouldn't end if we did believe? Who's to say that the world is going to end at all? What's religion got to do anything with it? Religion is the cause of 60 percent of all problems (--just made that estimation up). No one is ever going to believe in the same God and in the same way and not everyone is going to believe in God at all, period. And as long as it's that way (and it's going to be that way forever) religion will cause too many problems. Religion is the cause of corruption. |
Piccolo the Great
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Posts: 340 | August 12th, 2008 at 07:22pm Kurtni Ramone:..Dears?
Hard evidence is not an emotion or feeling, its something that can be proven. If you see hard evidence everywhere, surely you could give one example....? Okay, okay, excuse my outdated term of affection.
But Kurtni, where do you think that you came from?
jules.:Religion is the cause of corruption. In my wide opinion, people are the cause of corruption, not religion. |
Kurtni O'Hara
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Posts: 3417 | August 12th, 2008 at 07:30pm Piccolo the Great:
But Kurtni, where do you think that you came from?
I don't know, and I don't need to.  Of course I'm curious, but I don't feel the need to know everything or believe in things with no evidence just so I can have an explanation. |
dysfunctional.
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Posts: 79 | August 12th, 2008 at 07:39pm Piccolo the Great:
jules.:Religion is the cause of corruption. In my wide opinion, people are the cause of corruption, not religion.
Religion's an influence and a part of people, hence being the cause of corruption. |
