Girl commits suicide.

I just read that.

This girl was obviously overly influenced by emo culture, and MCR as it is shown, them being her favorite band. She took it quite seriously and unfortunetely took her life in trying to make a statement. Don't call her a poser. Just don't. That's disrespectful to the dead.
Apparently she actually believed the whole black parade thing, along with other kids online, and was convinced if she killed herself she'd go to the Black Parade and see her idols. My Chemical Romance.
My Chemical Romance's lyrics glorify death. You know they do; don't deny it.
The girl, being a devote fan, listened to their word like it was gospel and went along with it.
And that scares the shit out of me, because I see so many people who are such devote fans, especially on here. And if kids just started pulling stuff like that I'd fear for my friends, because I have friends who like MCR, and the idea just scares me.
All these kids take them so seriously, buying all their shit and stuff.
I know because I was one of them. I can understand how she would be almost brainwashed in a way to believe death was good.
I'll just say right now I don't think MCR meant it to be that way, because who would want to kill off their fans? The album was telling a story or something. It was all made up. But she believed it.
Don't go calling her a poser. She's just as much as a poser as the rest of you guys.
Yes, she was very popular, or so I've read. Which makes it all more the shame (not that her being less popular would make it better). Apparently she had a wonderful life, and to think she lost it just over a silly fad is heart-breaking.

Okay, I'm ready for the insults.

Emo is classified as a outcast. She was a Scene Queen. Not technically a poser, but not emo.

I take my previous statement back, she is not a poser, I do not know her, but I still have no sympathy.

My Chemical Romance. Lead Singer Gerard Way, as he said on Life On The Murder Scene, he said he played a lot in his head when he was a kid, because he couldn't really go outside to play. The Black Parade, seems to me, as an alternative to Heaven. Or Hell. It could be an option, but all in all, it came from Gerard Way, well, all of My Chemical Romance's head.

Hell, Gerard is a comic book artist, he's creative.

But, in all truce, anyone who gets that far, it's an obsession. I am, completely, and utterly disgraced.

I just, feel so bad. Yeah, I actually edmit I'm somewhat poser. I fell into 'emo'. But really, it's not just a fashion, it's a way of life. It effects, as you can see.

Cutting releases hormones of pleasure, that's why some people do it, but really, she was 13, now not to get all giddy on her age, because I was 12 when I started to look like the stereotipical 'emo', but she was too young, too immature.

That's what scares me too, My Chemical Romance, their lyrics don't exactly glorify death, they just make it known that people die, shit happens. They know that once you're gone, you're gone. Well, it's what they think, but The Black Parade seemed to be giving hope to teenagers across the globe that death will come to you, sooner or later, live life to the fullest. Their music is meant for the more mature person. Gerard even said that parents who let their kids listen to them know the cautions, the swearing a so on.

They also show heartbreak, drugs, and other shit, but if societly looked past all this, they would understand that My Chemical Romance keeps many people alive, and the people who kill themselves over it, are to literal.

I'm totally not insulting you, I like, love you

My Chemical Romance is a band that has made my life easy, and I just get really crazy when someone points a finger.
But that, it's just slightly disgraceful to anyone who is called emo. I don't even like being called emo. Or fag, bitch, hoe. But it happens. Do I go kill myself?

I'm not really popular, though I have a couple of good friends. That girl though, she could have been trying something, My Chemical Romance somewhat talks about drugs, but Gerard is totally agaisnt them, this was in the early days, but where you suffocate yourself then let go, and you get high, it could have been that.

The world jumps to conclusions. My Grandmere would blame it on My Chemical Romance too, My Ma and Pa wouldn't.

Hell, my 8 year old brother listens to them, knows the words to almost every song on The Black Parade, A couple on I Brought You My Bullets, and Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge. He thinks The Black Parade is cooler than Heaven, and he thinks Frank Iero is God. But he knows that it's music, not literal realitly.

I'm sorry, but this just got on my nerves so much, this girl, I just feel so angry. I don't even understand why really.

Pestilence.:

I think it's a terrible thing what happened, but it has nothing to do with the band. They weren't telling her to commit suicide, even if their lyrics 'glorify death', they have stated so many times that they want to save lives, not kill people.
I honestly believe it is the fault of her parents. Her dad and mom knew she was cutting, and did nothing about it because she told them it was a 'fashion thing.' Obviously she had bigger problems then listening to MCR. When Columbine happened, they blamed it on Marilyn Manson. I think it's just her parents trying to blame it on other people for a mistake they made.

You put my thoughts into words, smaller form. ILY

ella jack:

even though I don't know her, it sort of screams 'poser.'

I cannot believe you would say that about someone who committed suicide. O_O She took her own life.... and you're insulting her, when you don't even know her. What gives you the right to judge?

Kurtni Von Teese:

ella jack:

even though I don't know her, it sort of screams 'poser.'

I cannot believe you would say that about someone who committed suicide. O_O She took her own life.... and you're insulting her, when you don't even know her. What gives you the right to judge?

I shall edit that, it may have been better for you to read my other post, I had apologized, and taken away the poser. But she has plenty of friends, so excuse me if you will, she tried cutting, she didn't apparently try and hide it from her Father, who didn't do anything about it, but in my mind, I really do not care that she commited suicide, I do not care that it might be insulting, because, even though I know I don't know her, I know the person the media sent her out to be, but this version of this girl, she insults me.

Really, it doesn't matter about the age, it matters how mature you are. My Chemical Romance, I'll say it again, they save lifes, to let people know they aren't alone out in this shitty world.

I will not call this girl a poser, but I refuse to say she is emo. She had plenty of friends.

Scene Queen,

Her parents must have paid for her transformation from prep to 'emo'. When I was her age, a year younger, my parents didn't want anything to do with my change, I mean five years later, they only partially accept me, I paid for this out of my own pockets, and I have paid with getting called a fag, bitch, whore, best of all, the sentance brought on me the most, "Look at your hands, they're covered in kitten blood." Face it, it's not the worst thing, it's friggen high school. In whatever cruel world that girl is living, she must have not of thought about little children in Africa, the starving ones, the woman and children in Darfur who get raped and killed everyday, people can always have it worst, that's what disgraces me.

This girl, she made the headlines, everyone knows what her story was. Everyone is going to get the impression on 'emo' teenagers now. All because one immature 13 year old took her own life.

Yes, and I will not take that back. Immature 13 year old.

I officially am disgraces, you guys have to know how hard this impacted me. I would love to know others who feel the same, about the whole, "Let's blame My Chemical Romance!" The people who have saved most of our lifes.

This was a smack in the face.

ella jack:

I will not call this girl a poser, but I refuse to say she is emo. She had plenty of friends. [/size]

Well it's nice to see you're not stereotypical and open-minded.

People wonder why teenagers committ suicide, it's that attitude right there. Labeling isn't the problem, but when you use it to judge people, you make them miserable. "Ooooh, she's so not emo." Do you see how hateful that sounds? And how inferior it would make her feel? Honestly, what right do any of us have to pick someone elses category in life.

All anyone in this thread knows is what the media said. She obviously hasn't released ant statements. You don't know anything about her friendships, maybe they were all sucky. You don't know anything about her home life. You said the newspapers said she had a good life, but who do you think they're getting their statements from? Her parents. Her teachers. Her "friends". Of course they're not going to say anything was wrong, because they don't want to be blamed. You don't know if she was depressed. You're just making speculations and irrational judgements because you're mad that "emo" has a bad reputation, never mind the fact that a 13 year old girl just committed suicide...

ella jack:

Everyone is going to get the impression on 'emo' teenagers now. All because one immature 13 year old took her own life.

It truely shows you the state of the world when we're more concerned with reputations than teenage lives. Honestly, the emo scene has always had a bad reputation, and that is not this poor girls fault.

I've noticed many posters in here seemed to think she did it for attention and that's why so many crude comments are being made about her. Well, if someone was so desperate for attention, that they were willing to go to the extreme of killing themself, don't you think something is wrong there? No one should feel that isolated and neglected. This girl obviously has issues that no one was helping her deal with. And you know why? Probably because her parents had the exact same attituede as this thread. Oh, she has lots of friends, she's fine. She has a good life... No one took her seriously. You can be depressed and have a perfectly "fine" life, it isn't somthing you csn control.

I understand being upset because MCR is being blamed for this, it clearly isn't their fault. But the girl who committed suicide isn't the one blaming them, it's the media, and that is not her fault.

Kurtni Von Teese:

Well it's nice to see you're not stereotypical and open-minded.

It's nice to see you're not sarcastic.

Kurtni Von Teese:

You're just making speculations and irrational judgements because you're mad that "emo" has a bad reputation, never mind the fact that a 13 year old girl just committed suicide...

Go ahead and use your 'big' words, but I stand by my statement. But guess what, people die everyday. Every. Single. Day. Do I really look like I'm all that happy that she commited suicide? No, because, that's cruel, I never knew her. But I say this, she was 13. Babies die for God's sakes.

Kurtni Von Teese:

It truely shows you the state of the world when we're more concerned with reputations than teenage lives. Honestly, the emo scene has always had a bad reputation, and that is not this poor girls fault.

My Chemical Romance is trying to get rid of the 'emo' rep. How do you think this works out?

Whatever faery land your living in, the world runs on reputations these day, and when I had nothing left, 'emo' is what I turned into. So guess what, no matter what, people will always have a label, and guess what? Reputation is a teenagers life, maybe not for you, but look around you, I've already admited that I wouldn't mind having some more friends, or be a little popular. But guess what. I'm not. We deal.

It's not her fault, but she makes it worst.

Kurtni Von Teese:

I've noticed many posters in here seemed to think she did it for attention and that's why so many crude comments are being made about her. Well, if someone was so desperate for attention, that they were willing to go to the extreme of killing themself, don't you think something is wrong there? No one should feel that isolated and neglected. This girl obviously has issues that no one was helping her deal with. And you know why? Probably because her parents had the exact same attitude as this thread. Oh, she has lots of friends, she's fine. She has a good life... No one took her seriously. You can be depressed and have a perfectly "fine" life, it isn't somthing you can control.

It's nice that your sticking up for her. Really, I know, a 13 year old shouldn't feel that bad about herself that she would turn to suicide.

You're on my nerve, because unlike everyone else, you don't see the point.

In an autopsy of her body, they would have known about abuse, or anything out of the ordinary. Did they? No.

She may have read stories, and thought someone would come in last minute, and bam! Attetion.

Just, she was 13. No, I'm not on her because she was young. By the way the media says it, she was too immature to know that other people had it worst, that she didn't have it that bad.

Too immature to now that once you're gone, you're gone.

Death is not a game, and it's nothing you can cheat on.

She cut herself, and edmitted it to her father.

Do you see nothing wrong in that?

I'm not more worried about reputation. I just don't want to be looked at and said, "She's suicidal."

I have enough people thinking that already.

I'm sure other people do too.

Stupid MF:

This was really like a slap in the face for me. This band changed my life. No, didn't save it, but made it a whole lot easier.
I just think that their parents made a mistake and now they're blaming it on My Chemical Romance because everywhere you hear that they're 'emo' and they promote 'self-harm' (which isn't true).
Her dad should have done something the first time he saw the cuts. And I agree with Kurni;

"Probably because her parents had the exact same attituede as this thread. Oh, she has lots of friends, she's fine. She has a good life... No one took her seriously. You can be depressed and have a perfectly "fine" life, it isn't somthing you csn control.

Maybe there was something else going on in there.

Maybe there is, but we can't go thinking that until we know everything. Because then that leads to theories and rumors. My statements are based on what we know.

Didn't really think I would get sarcasm thrown at me like that, but Kurtni Von Teese is always up for a good debate, she makes Mibba funner.

I'd like to point out something else, too.
We shouldn't completely blame the media for jumping to conclusions.
Basically, they don 't understand emo. Our generation of adults understand punk and hippies because that's when they grew up, but their parents didn't.
Now they don't understand this new fad.

Moving on, it's a possibility that she had something else going on but from what I see I'm concluding that she was the kind of person who gets overly influenced by things. She seemed to really wan to be something and I can understand where drastic measures come into play.
It doesn't sound realistic, I know, but these things really do happen.
Also, to clear the water a bit, she allegedly got angry at her parents for not letting her sleep over her friends house before she killed herself.
So she hadn't randomly come up to her parents and said "I want to die" or anything.
She had been angry and probably said something like "Fine! If you hate me so much I'll kill myself!" In a fit of a tantrum few parents would take their kids seriously when they said that.

Pestilence.:

I think it's a terrible thing what happened, but it has nothing to do with the band. They weren't telling her to commit suicide, even if their lyrics 'glorify death', they have stated so many times that they want to save lives, not kill people.
I honestly believe it is the fault of her parents. Her dad and mom knew she was cutting, and did nothing about it because she told them it was a 'fashion thing.' Obviously she had bigger problems then listening to MCR. When Columbine happened, they blamed it on Marilyn Manson. I think it's just her parents trying to blame it on other people for a mistake they made.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm not even bothered anymore when people say MCR is making kids kill themselves, because I know they're just throwing the blame on other people, and they don't know what they're talking about.

ILikeLikeYouALotLot:

I'd like to point out something else, too.
We shouldn't completely blame the media for jumping to conclusions.
Basically, they don 't understand emo. Our generation of adults understand punk and hippies because that's when they grew up, but their parents didn't.
Now they don't understand this new fad.

Moving on, it's a possibility that she had something else going on but from what I see I'm concluding that she was the kind of person who gets overly influenced by things. She seemed to really wan to be something and I can understand where drastic measures come into play.
It doesn't sound realistic, I know, but these things really do happen.
Also, to clear the water a bit, she allegedly got angry at her parents for not letting her sleep over her friends house before she killed herself.
So she hadn't randomly come up to her parents and said "I want to die" or anything.
She had been angry and probably said something like "Fine! If you hate me so much I'll kill myself!" In a fit of a tantrum few parents would take their kids seriously when they said that.

You are absolutely correct. I agree totally.

Over not going to a friends house?

Kurtni, see? Immature, or breaking point. I don't think we will ever know.

ella jack:

You are absolutely correct. I agree totally.

Over not going to a friends house?

Kurtni, see? Immature.

No matter how immature she might have been, I somehow doubt that was all. Even the most immature and over-dramatic of people do not kill themselves over that.
I'm sure that could have just resulted in her snapping though.

Nobody's ever going to know if this girl was ever really suffering from depression or whether it was simply the whole 'emo fad' convincing her to kill herself so there's no point if labelling her as an immature 13 year old.

And I agree with what Ash said, especially about the people in Africa and babies dying thing.
Yes, it's very sad that that's happening but people who show signs of depression and suicidal thoughts rarely take that in mind. It's not her fault other people were dying. It's dreadful that she took her life and I hate suicide, but as a person I think she had the right to.