Girl commits suicide.

I see many views on this board. I agree alot with Kurtni Von Teese. I've been suicidal multiple times before, the first time I tried to take my life I was about 8, I had about 7 suicide attempts before I turned 13, and I don't mean just like thinking about it and then backing down, no I took over 13 sleeping pills and yet I still woke up many hours later.

She may not have been that old but still she could think. No one can say how she felt. there were times when I was gonna kill myself where to someone else on the outside it seemed I was having everything go OK, but I was miserable. It isn't easy to live with depression.

But then again because I don't know her, maybe she got caught in MCR to be cool, I don't know, its not my place to say. Though I have no doubt that even more people are gonna believe that MCR is even more of a "Emo death cult". But if she got anything out of their lyrics it should have been to live and keep on living. MCR saved me from suicide, and now that people just blame them for one unfortunate girls death bugs me. Its just because of how some of thier lyrics talk about suicide and they dress in all black of coarse that had to cause her to commit suicide.

I agree with everyone else, it could've been her friends, teachers, oarents, even just herself that drove her over the edge, not MCR. So unless in her suicide note it said "this is all because of My Chemical Romance" then there shouldn't be any shit out there about MCR, it could have been the only thing keeping her around for so long.

bellakilling:

I agree alot with Kurtni Von Teese.

Word.

bellakilling:

So unless in her suicide note it said "this is all because of My Chemical Romance" then there shouldn't be any shit out there about MCR, it could have been the only thing keeping her around for so long.

And you know, even if her note said that (which this is obviously hypotehtical, I'm not saying it did) I still wouldn't blame the band.

My Chemical Romance makes mature music, and they have every right to. I do believe that kids can be influenced by music, just look at all the people who say MCR saved their life. I'm sure music could influence people in a negative way too, but I don't blame the band. It isn't their fault that someone couldn't distinguish between the reality we live in, and the fantasy of the song.

I think someone else brough up Columbine and Marilyn Manson, but this reminds me of that a lot, on a lesser scale. When that occurred, the media focused a lot on the song "Get Your Gun." That song was written in character, it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but after the shooting the media played it up like it was and that it was encouraging violence when he was condeming it. It wasn't his fault it was misinterpreted. If the kids listening to it couldn't see it was in character (which, to be honest, I have yet to meet a Marilyn Manson fan who takes his music the wrong way), they shouldn't have had his music to begin with. There would be deeper issues there, if you do something just because a song said to. Where were their parents at?

The same thing is happening to MCR. I sincerely doubt they would ever write something to intentionally cause harm to someone. But if something they wrote did lead to someone hurting themself, MCR shouldn't be blamed for their misinterpretation.

MCr say themselves, "we play music to save lives" or something to that extent.

Fallen From Grace:

I know this won't sound at all nice but I'm almost angry at her for taking 'emo culture' the wrong way, if it makes any sense. I don't think that was to blame, but if she interpreted cutting and suicide to be cool then it's enforcing the stereotype that all emo's cut and that it's a dangerous 'trend' to get into. I've heard that now at schools teachers will be asked to look out for signs of 'emo' in students.

I wear an Avenged Sevenfold black wristband and almost every single one of my teachers has asked me at least once or twice this year to pull it up because their afraid I am cutting and using the wrist band to hide it.

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Related to the topic, it pisses me off. When I heard about this, I changed my signature. With all the shit that has been happening with people loosing faith and blaming MCR for things that they have no control over, it just makes me sick. And I really love this quote. I think it really makes you think about weather they are to blame for anything. Obvousally not.

And yet, in a way, that are. Do not get me wrong, MCR is my favorite band of all time, and I think that could be their downfall. People love them so much that they just let it get to this crazy level, and then, sadly, things eventually lead to this. I do not think they can control this, I mean, that cannot help it that their good, but it makes me sick when things like this happen, and the media finger pointing begins. What right do they have? Are they TRYING to destroy their crediability? It just makes me sick.

Even if you do not like them, fine, no one ever said you had to like them, but do not go around destroying them as people. That is what happens in schools all the time with bullying and things like that. This is media bullying in my opinion.

It will happen no matter what, people blaming bands for thier own children killing themselves when it is thier fault for not noticing that thier children are depressed because of school or home-life. My parents remember when they were younger and people would blame Nirvana and Kiss and Black Sabbath etc. for kids killing themselves. News Flash - You did it not the band.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GBJVbu6paJA&feature=related

He said this a year ago. So apparently the band didn't influence her decision to kill herself. She did this on her own.

What about thier new unrealeased song "Stay Awake"?

LivingInTheShadows:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GBJVbu6paJA&feature=related

He said this a year ago. So apparently the band didn't influence her decision to kill herself. She did this on her own.

What about thier new unrealeased song "Stay Awake"?

That video = love

He said something along those lines last year in April.
MCR saves lives, they don't take them.

At first when I heard about this, I was really mad. I thought it was ridiculous that they were blaming MCR. I looked at her picture again today that's being posted everywhere on the net, and I can see pain in her eyes. She just looks depressed. There's no way any band could make her feel that bad.

I find it ridiculous that the parents would blame a band before themselves, to be honest.

Thunder.:

But, I want to know why this girl did it. She had nothing wrong with her, as far as I know. Was it just a cry for attention?

That's what many people think but there are plenty of children who seem perfectly fine to friends and family but are battling some sort of problem.
She was self harming for a start and she may have been suffering from undiagnosed depression or something. I think the more likely idea is that she just took the whole 'emo' fad the wrong way and assumed that killing herself would be a good thing to do.

I don't want this to come out wrong, but that was her own choice and her own mistake to make and MCR shouldn't be blamed.

Fallen From Grace:

Thunder.:

But, I want to know why this girl did it. She had nothing wrong with her, as far as I know. Was it just a cry for attention?

I think the more likely idea is that she just took the whole 'emo' fad the wrong way and assumed that killing herself would be a good thing to do.

Of course it's not. She was 13 - should have had more sense.

And call me mad, but someone tell me what the Black Parade actually is..?

Thunder.:

Fallen From Grace:

Thunder.:

But, I want to know why this girl did it. She had nothing wrong with her, as far as I know. Was it just a cry for attention?

I think the more likely idea is that she just took the whole 'emo' fad the wrong way and assumed that killing herself would be a good thing to do.

Of course it's not. She was 13 - should have had more sense.

And call me mad, but someone tell me what the Black Parade actually is..?

It's the concept of a song by My Chemical Romance. It's about a cancer patient dying and death comes to him in the form of a Black Parade.

Of course the Daily Mail spewed out a load of crap about how 'emos' think that's where you go when you die. Most 'emos' or fans of My Chemical Romance have enough brains to figure out it's a song.

Thunder.:

But, I want to know why this girl did it. She had nothing wrong with her, as far as I know. Was it just a cry for attention?

"As far as you know." You are in no position to judge her.

If you go to this link you can sign a online petition to help stop the blame going to MCR.
I'm not sure if it will help but I did it anyways

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/daily-mail-newspaper-stop-blaming-my-chemical-romance.html

People just want a scape goat. Kids shoot up a school, blame Marilyn Manson. Girl kills herself, blame MCR. No one wants to put the blame where it actually belongs these days, which is probably why this generation is very apathetic and have this misplaced sense of entitlement.

i am weasel.:

MCr say themselves, "we play music to save lives" or something to that extent.

really?

I thought they played music and endorsed products to make money.

Most people who have suicidal tendencies don't tend to have alot of common sense. So couple that with music that can be percieved as glorifying death you have a problem

Thats not techinically the bands fault, but if a child whose not allowed to see a pg movie unaccompanied shouldn't then be able to by an album that include mature things.

NeoSteph:

i am weasel.:

MCr say themselves, "we play music to save lives" or something to that extent.

really?

I thought they played music and endorsed products to make money.

Before you say stuff, please think.

My Chemical Romance started playing music as a therapy. Not to make money, the money came along, just like any other band, products were made. Get your facts straight before you judge.

I realise I'm somewhat of a hypocrite.

NeoSteph:

Most people who have suicidal tendencies don't tend to have alot of common sense. So couple that with music that can be percieved as glorifying death you have a problem

Thats not techinically the bands fault, but if a child whose not allowed to see a pg movie unaccompanied shouldn't then be able to by an album that include mature things.

Firstly, that's a completely unjustified statement to make. There are plenty of people who have been suicidal who have plenty of common sense. I don't even think it's a matter or common sense; it's how you view life. The most intelligent, strong minded, sensible person might find themselves suicidal.

The band doesn't glorify death at all. In fact, they're very anti-suicide. Sure, they sing about death but they don't promote it or try to make it sound cool.

She wasn't particularly young for the album I don't think. I first started listening to My Chemical Romance at 12 myself, and 13-18 seems the age of most MCR fans.

Fallen From Grace:

NeoSteph:

Most people who have suicidal tendencies don't tend to have alot of common sense. So couple that with music that can be percieved as glorifying death you have a problem

Thats not techinically the bands fault, but if a child whose not allowed to see a pg movie unaccompanied shouldn't then be able to by an album that include mature things.

Firstly, that's a completely unjustified statement to make. There are plenty of people who have been suicidal who have plenty of common sense. I don't even think it's a matter or common sense; it's how you view life. The most intelligent, strong minded, sensible person might find themselves suicidal.

The band doesn't glorify death at all. In fact, they're very anti-suicide. Sure, they sing about death but they don't promote it or try to make it sound cool.

She wasn't particularly young for the album I don't think. I first started listening to My Chemical Romance at 12 myself, and 13-18 seems the age of most MCR fans.

Before you label my comments as unjustified maybe read it a little more carefully.

What exactly to do you consider common sense to be. Unless you believe in suicide being an answer to a problem then you cannot argue that anyone who commits suicide have common sense. Because the very idea of killing yourself shows you are unable to operate correctly.

I said ''percieved' to be glorifying death and to many people they could be, you have no way of knowing how another person responds to what they see or hear. The context of any song can be distorted.

The rate of teenage suicide is increasing at an alarming rate and it is arguable that the emo culture has something to do with, you just have to look at the suicide happening in north wales. It makes sense to me that albums which deal with darker imagery should have an age rating and then young teenagers who are mature enough to understand them can still listen with parental consent.