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Kurtni O'Hara
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Age: 16
Gender: Female
Posts: 3405 | May 19th, 2008 at 12:20am ella jack:
Before you say stuff, please think.
That was a bit rude. O_o Just because she has a different opinion than you doesn't mean she wasn't thinking. |
NeoSteph
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Age: 20
Gender: Female
Posts: 73 | May 19th, 2008 at 12:33am ella jack:NeoSteph:i am weasel.:MCr say themselves, "we play music to save lives" or something to that extent.
really?
I thought they played music and endorsed products to make money.
Before you say stuff, please think.
My Chemical Romance started playing music as a therapy. Not to make money, the money came along, just like any other band, products were made. Get your facts straight before you judge.
I realise I'm somewhat of a hypocrite. 
ok give me a second to think
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nope still believe its got to be for the money and i'm not judging them for it. If someone offered me millions to put my name on a t-shirt i would be waiting outside the bank at 5am to put the damn cheque in. However when the majority of their audience are either teenagers on allowance or on minimum wage making them shell out $80.00 for a concert ticket isn't exactly good therapy but at least its cheaper than a shrink right.
They are part of an industry designed to make money i'm sure they are perfectly nice young men but they are not the saviours of the universe that a portion of their fanbase seem to think they are. In the end their in it for themselves. |
vengeance.
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Age: 26
Gender: Male
Posts: 554 | May 19th, 2008 at 12:57am NeoSteph:ok give me a second to think
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nope still believe its got to be for the money and i'm not judging them for it. If someone offered me millions to put my name on a t-shirt i would be waiting outside the bank at 5am to put the damn cheque in. However when the majority of their audience are either teenagers on allowance or on minimum wage making them shell out $80.00 for a concert ticket isn't exactly good therapy but at least its cheaper than a shrink right.
They are part of an industry designed to make money i'm sure they are perfectly nice young men but they are not the saviours of the universe that a portion of their fanbase seem to think they are. In the end their in it for themselves.
A person's got to make a living right? Would you walk up to a prostitute and tell her she's a dirty slut? Yeah, it's also for the money, but I do believe they do it for other reasons too.
This industry, music wasn't designed to make money, and I'm really sorry that's what you believe.
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vengeance.
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Age: 26
Gender: Male
Posts: 554 | May 19th, 2008 at 01:04am Kurtni Von Teese:ella jack:
Before you say stuff, please think.
That was a bit rude. O_o Just because she has a different opinion than you doesn't mean she wasn't thinking.
I stand corrected yet again. 
Fine, please find the facts before you go around criticizing five men who worked for what they have today. Who went through probably a week without showering-- at least 30 times, who give it their all when they go on tour, who suffer from lack of sleep, for a man who quit drinking to show his fans how to stay strong. Five men who started out with nothing, who taught me you can make something out of nothing. Yeah, they did it just because they just wanted money out of this, that's why they took the chance, not because music was their calling.  |
NeoSteph
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Age: 20
Gender: Female
Posts: 73 | May 19th, 2008 at 01:28am ella jack:NeoSteph:ok give me a second to think
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nope still believe its got to be for the money and i'm not judging them for it. If someone offered me millions to put my name on a t-shirt i would be waiting outside the bank at 5am to put the damn cheque in. However when the majority of their audience are either teenagers on allowance or on minimum wage making them shell out $80.00 for a concert ticket isn't exactly good therapy but at least its cheaper than a shrink right.
They are part of an industry designed to make money i'm sure they are perfectly nice young men but they are not the saviours of the universe that a portion of their fanbase seem to think they are. In the end their in it for themselves.
A person's got to make a living right? Would you walk up to a prostitute and tell her she's a dirty slut? Yeah, it's also for the money, but I do believe they do it for other reasons too.
This industry, music wasn't designed to make money, and I'm really sorry that's what you believe.
Can you not see how your argument makes no sense. I'm not disagreeing with their motives it's perfectly acceptable in a capitalist society to make as much money as you can. Their not exactly scraping a living are they so trying to compare them to a prostitute is a little redundant.
I'm not talking about music I'm talking about the music industry and if they sell merchandise and belong to a record label they are very much apart of that scene.
''we make music to save lives'' No you become doctors to save lives, you volunteer in war torn countries to save lives, you give blood to saves lives.
They choose to become musicians because they wanted the lifestyle and because its something they were good at, thats human nature.
Music is pure, Modern music isn't |
The Doctor
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Age: 18
Gender: Female
Posts: 2951 | May 19th, 2008 at 01:30am I don't think you all should take it so to heart.
It's in the Daily Mail.
THE DAILY MAIL.
It has about the same credibility as a comic strip.
This is the same paper who has regurgitates old stories all the time to make a fast quid. |
NeoSteph
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Age: 20
Gender: Female
Posts: 73 | May 19th, 2008 at 01:36am ella jack:Kurtni Von Teese:ella jack:
Before you say stuff, please think.
That was a bit rude. O_o Just because she has a different opinion than you doesn't mean she wasn't thinking.
I stand corrected yet again.
Fine, please find the facts before you go around criticizing five men who worked for what they have today. Who went through probably a week without showering-- at least 30 times, who give it their all when they go on tour, who suffer from lack of sleep, for a man who quit drinking to show his fans how to stay strong. Five men who started out with nothing, who taught me you can make something out of nothing. Yeah, they did it just because they just wanted money out of this, that's why they took the chance, not because music was their calling.
I won't be sarcastic with you and i'll say thiswhilst trying not to be disrespectful to a band you obviously like.
Any person going for any career or calling that they desperately want will go through the extremes to reach their goal. I know plenty of students who probably havn't had a decent meal since last august training to be nurses because they want to help people and the pay off for them is far less than a recording artist. Those same students havn't slept either.
I applaud them for taking the chance in a hard proffession but now they've made it, now that they are successful on a massive scale to give back to the world on the same level that real life savers do ,they need to do a hell of alot more than make music. |
NeoSteph
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Age: 20
Gender: Female
Posts: 73 | May 19th, 2008 at 01:37am The Doctor.:I don't think you all should take it so to heart.
It's in the Daily Mail.
THE DAILY MAIL.
It has about the same credibility as a comic strip.
This is the same paper who has regurgitates old stories all the time to make a fast quid.
The Daily Mail is the teacher's favorite so i sort of have to read it  The guardian by choice though. |
The Doctor
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Age: 18
Gender: Female
Posts: 2951 | May 19th, 2008 at 01:42am NeoSteph:
The Daily Mail is the teacher's favorite so i sort of have to read it The guardian by choice though. Daily Mail makes me itch but the Guardian is fab. Although, have bought the Independant and Times to make a fair comparison. 
Although I usually end up reading the sun because that's what my Mum buys. O_o
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Anyway, it just feels like a sort of International Marilyn Manson/Columbine repeat. Although, I may just be suffering from déja vu.
All I gotta say really is that you should calm down because...well...I'm assuming that they want this reaction. I mean, if it annoys people, more people will read it and in turn any action against them is free publicity. |
NeoSteph
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Age: 20
Gender: Female
Posts: 73 | May 19th, 2008 at 01:52am People who read the Daily Mirror should be burned at the stake....definitly off topic.
Independant on sunday is a fantastic paper, best for reviews as well.
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I think most people understand by now that if someone commited suicided and the only thing the press knew was that she/he had coco pops in the morning, Kellog's would be in the firing line.
The media will distort information. But as a teacher I can give you my proffessional opinion that films and music do have a profound effect on young children's behaviour and mood.
There are MCR fans in my year 6 so 10/11 year old and i have to say for that age range i find it disturbing for them to be listening to emotive music. They are not at level to comprehend the type of stories being told.
My argument is that for the 13- 14 year olds at a lower maturity should be protected with an enforced parental guidance, allowing the authority figures who know them best to decide if their child is ready to understand such themes that can and have led to teenagers who've taken it the wrong way. |
vengeance.
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Age: 26
Gender: Male
Posts: 554 | May 19th, 2008 at 01:56am NeoSteph:ella jack:NeoSteph:ok give me a second to think
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nope still believe its got to be for the money and i'm not judging them for it. If someone offered me millions to put my name on a t-shirt i would be waiting outside the bank at 5am to put the damn cheque in. However when the majority of their audience are either teenagers on allowance or on minimum wage making them shell out $80.00 for a concert ticket isn't exactly good therapy but at least its cheaper than a shrink right.
They are part of an industry designed to make money i'm sure they are perfectly nice young men but they are not the saviours of the universe that a portion of their fanbase seem to think they are. In the end their in it for themselves.
A person's got to make a living right? Would you walk up to a prostitute and tell her she's a dirty slut? Yeah, it's also for the money, but I do believe they do it for other reasons too.
This industry, music wasn't designed to make money, and I'm really sorry that's what you believe.
Can you not see how your argument makes no sense. I'm not disagreeing with their motives it's perfectly acceptable in a capitalist society to make as much money as you can. Their not exactly scraping a living are they so trying to compare them to a prostitute is a little redundant.
I'm not talking about music I'm talking about the music industry and if they sell merchandise and belong to a record label they are very much apart of that scene.
''we make music to save lives'' No you become doctors to save lives, you volunteer in war torn countries to save lives, you give blood to saves lives.
They choose to become musicians because they wanted the lifestyle and because its something they were good at, thats human nature.
Music is pure, Modern music isn't
They save lives emotionally, and don't tell me they didn't save mine, because if we really want to get into that, we can go back two years ago when I was suicidal, and if I didn't know Gerard Way felt somewhat what I was feeling, I bet I wouldn't be here.
My argument makes very much sense. You wouldn't walk up to a prostitute and call her a dirty slut, because maybe she likes her job, maybe she doesn't do it for the money. Of corse there is always the prostitutes that do it for money, but then there are the select few that do it because they want to, doesn't mean they don't get paid.
Like My Chemical Romance, they do get money out of this, but they don't do it for the money, they do it-- and I quote;
"If for one minute you think you’re better than a sixteen year old girl in a Green Day t-shirt, you are sorely mistaken. Remember the first time you went to a show and saw your favorite band. You wore their shirt, and sang every word. You didn’t know anything about scene politics, haircuts, or what was cool. All you knew was that this music made you feel different from anyone you shared a locker with. Someone finally understood you. This is what music is about.”-- Gerard Way
It's for the music, the money just comes. |
The Doctor
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Age: 18
Gender: Female
Posts: 2951 | May 19th, 2008 at 02:06am NeoSteph:People who read the Daily Mirror should be burned at the stake....definitly off topic.
Independant on sunday is a fantastic paper, best for reviews as well.
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I think most people understand by now that if someone commited suicided and the only thing the press knew was that she/he had coco pops in the morning, Kellog's would be in the firing line.
The media will distort information. But as a teacher I can give you my proffessional opinion that films and music do have a profound effect on young children's behaviour and mood.
There are MCR fans in my year 6 so 10/11 year old and i have to say for that age range i find it disturbing for them to be listening to emotive music. They are not at level to comprehend the type of stories being told.
My argument is that for the 13- 14 year olds at a lower maturity should be protected with an enforced parental guidance, allowing the authority figures who know them best to decide if their child is ready to understand such themes that can and have led to teenagers who've taken it the wrong way. It is worrying that it is being given to younger people but that's the way culture as a whole is developing, sadly.
I mean, I was a victim - sort of - of a drive by shooting with a ten year old shooting me with his toy gun as he drove past. i don't know if he knew what he was doing or that he understood what it meant but it still sticks.
I know I am going to hate myself for this but I'm going to use Torchwood as an example. They make a special cut version for kids to watch but they only take out five or so minutes of viewing, removing the overly sexual, swearing and gorey bits but all the extreme emotional scenes are left in. Particularly when the finale occured with a member of the team being buried alive and left for over two thousand years. Stuff like that will stick. It has in mine. Not that it will always end in a negetive way. Some of the things that are promoted will have a good effect like a positive attitude with the idea of equality with sexual orientation.
Then again, we hit the bargepole side on. Doctor Who is a very...deathly series. Harry Potter is a very deathly series. I doubt that there is many things that are popular with the youth of today that hasn't got some "grown up" issue at its core values. If it is shown that even in a bad situation, it's alright to be a hero. To save someone.
For every death, there is a story of someone's life being saved.
So...um...
...I've lost the plot actually...and I sound cringingly like Mary Whitehouse. |
musetastic
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Age: 18
Gender: Female
Posts: 32 | May 19th, 2008 at 09:30am I've ranted about this on many different sites and my opinion still remains the same.
"glamorisation of hanging and speaking about “the black parade” - a place where “emos” believe they go after they die. "
It's so fustrating that another death gets blamed on the emo culture. It's fustrating that journalists get it wrong and blame bands like MCR who are anti-violence. It's fustrating that people would rather be scared of the emo culture than be arsed to research it and realise that the majority of emos/goths/punks arn't actually depressed and just following a fashion statement. A fashion statement that has them clothed up rather than dressing slutty. But I guess dressing in colour is better than dressing in black. |
Talion
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Age: 15
Gender: Female
Posts: 119 | May 20th, 2008 at 02:20am People commit suicide all the time. It's the sad truth.
The ages have been getting younger and younger and frankly, I think the media just needs someone to blame.
If they can convince people that MCR is an enemy, they won't have to worry about it.
Once they get rid of the problem they won't have anything left to worry about, right?  |
musetastic
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Age: 18
Gender: Female
Posts: 32 | May 20th, 2008 at 01:38pm And in 20 years time we will all be laughing at ourselves for following such a fashion. |
Camisado
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Age: 14
Gender: Female
Posts: 122 | August 25th, 2008 at 12:58am I refuse to believe that this girl hanged herself because of my chemical romance. There must've been a reason i mean come on the police probably got lazy and decided that they didn't have to look for the reason when they can just chalk it up to a band and an alternative lifestyle that they don't understand. |
C_annibal
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Age: 20
Gender: Female
Posts: 786 | August 25th, 2008 at 04:50am I am by no means an MCR fan, but I can't stand to see bands get the blame for a fans suicide.
The sad thing is, for the media and parents, it is easier to blame a band that comes acorss as "depressive" "emo" etc etc then it is for them to say that the girl had some mental issues. It is easier for the parents to say it was the music then their lack of care and notice, when we all know it's never the bands influence and if it is, then that person already had some issues going in there head.
After all, they are just making music, music isn't the criminal here, they should be mourning for her instead of kicking up a stink about why she killed herself, I'm sure in years to come they are going to regret the fact that, that is the way she is going to be remembered by the greater percentage of people. |
Twenty Six
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Age: 19
Gender: Male
Posts: 41 | August 25th, 2008 at 01:43pm I think she's stupid.
She shouldn't blame MCR. WTF is she thinking?
There are so many bands out there,
Why blame MCR? :file |
zero;
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Age: 12
Gender: Female
Posts: 1371 | August 25th, 2008 at 02:04pm ^ It's wrong that her parents blame anything all together.
MCR, probably because people think they're like, emo gods. 
Which is lame because they aren't. |
antonius.
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Age: 16
Gender: Female
Posts: 3001 | August 26th, 2008 at 01:23am The Zero:^ It's wrong that her parents blame anything all together.
MCR, probably because people think they're like, emo gods.
Which is lame because they aren't. Well MCR seem scary if you don't know them.
The lyrics are rather... destructive? and the whole dead-look death idealization and obsession isn't helping at all either.
I love MCR to bits, but if I were a parent -especially a more conservator one- I'd probably be worried if my kid would start listening to a song whose chorus is ''wouldn't it be great if we were dead?'' |
