Death sentences

Why do we kill people,
Who kill people,
to prove that killing is wrong?

Thats all i got to say.

amysteriousglint:

Why do we kill people,
Who kill people,
to prove that killing is wrong?

Thats all i got to say.

Congratulations, you have made the exact same post that about 948768937689237 people have made.

I don't think anyone is trying to prove killing is wrong, they're being punished. What do you think should happen to the leaders of terrorist organizations who caused the death of thousands of people? Who plotted heinous crimes and promote basic human rights abuse?

Kurtni Page:

amysteriousglint:

Why do we kill people,
Who kill people,
to prove that killing is wrong?

Thats all i got to say.

Congratulations, you have made the exact same post that about 948768937689237 people have made.

I don't think anyone is trying to prove killing is wrong, they're being punished. What do you think should happen to the leaders of terrorist organizations who caused the death of thousands of people? Who plotted heinous crimes and promote basic human rights abuse?

They should rot to death in a jail cell, that would make a much bigger inpact on their lives then killing them now wouldn't it?
The actual killing is usually quick so they wouldn't suffer much but if they stay in jail for the rest of their lives they would suffer.
Do you realize the things that happen in jail? Honestly, if I was a criminal I'd much rather die then spend life in prison.

The Missing Piece:

They should rot to death in a jail cell, that would make a much bigger inpact on their lives then killing them now wouldn't it?
The actual killing is usually quick so they wouldn't suffer much but if they stay in jail for the rest of their lives they would suffer.
Do you realize the things that happen in jail? Honestly, if I was a criminal I'd much rather die then spend life in prison.

Well now you're just contradicting yourself

The Missing Piece:

Especially for murder because killing someone for killing someone makes you no better then them.

If someone makes someone suffer, and you punish them with more suffering, wouldn't you be no better than them?

That logic is flawed.

Kurtni Page:

The Missing Piece:

They should rot to death in a jail cell, that would make a much bigger inpact on their lives then killing them now wouldn't it?
The actual killing is usually quick so they wouldn't suffer much but if they stay in jail for the rest of their lives they would suffer.
Do you realize the things that happen in jail? Honestly, if I was a criminal I'd much rather die then spend life in prison.

Well now you're just contradicting yourself

The Missing Piece:

Especially for murder because killing someone for killing someone makes you no better then them.

If someone makes someone suffer, and you punish them with more suffering, wouldn't you be no better than them?

That logic is flawed.

Maybe I was contradicting myself, I don't even remember making the first post so I'll take that part back. But technically I was saying killing someone who killed someone makes you no better and at that point I was just talking about the death penalty for murderers not people who raped someone or kidnapped someone.

The Missing Piece:

Maybe I was contradicting myself, I don't even remember making the first post so I'll take that part back.

Refresh your memory..

The Missing Piece:

But technically I was saying killing someone who killed someone makes you no better and at that point I was just talking about the death penalty for murderers not people who raped someone or kidnapped someone.

But the logic is the same.If killing someone who killed someone is bad, why is it ok to make someone suffer if they made someone else suffer?

Kurtni Page:

The Missing Piece:

Maybe I was contradicting myself, I don't even remember making the first post so I'll take that part back.

Refresh your memory..

The Missing Piece:

But technically I was saying killing someone who killed someone makes you no better and at that point I was just talking about the death penalty for murderers not people who raped someone or kidnapped someone.

But the logic is the same.If killing someone who killed someone is bad, why is it ok to make someone suffer if they made someone else suffer?

OK let me break down what I'm attempting to say here because you're not getting it.

Murdering someone who murdered someone is wrong.
They should suffer in prison because they deserve it.
Murdering someone who killed millions of people is also wrong because they should suffer but murdering someone who made millions of people suffer is fine, they should be wiped out.
So, basically what I'm saying is it depends on the extent of the crime.

I don't think anyone deserves the death penalty, because they'd suffer more locked up in a jail cell untill they die.

I know it sounds harsh, but if a person takes it into their own hands to end another persons life... then they should be punished... i guess.

On of the oldest thing they teach you is "Treat other like you would want to be treated." But I know there are also other sayings which could contradict that.

I really want to say I agree, because I don't think people who kill innocent people, should be allowed to live themselves. (Unless it's in self defense.) And my aunt was even killed by a psychopath, who doesn't feel guilty about anything. Why does he get to live, if my aunt doesn't.

But I think about if I had to be the one to do the lethal injection. I know I couldn't do it myself, so I think about the person who would have to do it... Wouldn't they be just as bad as the murderer if they could live with that?

I'm pretty iffy about the whole issue still.

I've seen shows like Dexter, where the main character only kills other murderers. And I think, how is he doing bad for society? In a way he's saving people's lives by fulfilling his lust for killing, but he also isn't the law.

braineater.:

i haven't read through the whole thread, so forgive me if i'm repeating something for the nine hundreth time.

i don't believe in the death penalty because i don't think anyone really, honestly deserves to die. no matter how big a piece of shit they were, or how many babies they punted across parking lots, they don't deserve to die.

there have been a few cases where someone was executed but then later found innocent by DNA evidence. what is there to do in that situation but apologize to the family of the second victim?

locking someone up for life is completely different then offing them. when you're in jail, you're alive to think of what you did, why you're there, and in some cases one can also be rehabilitated. simply killing someone is very permanant, and some might even argue that it's letting them off easy because they viciously murdered someone and they just get stuck with a few needles and it's over but i don't really jive with that.

The whole consept of the death sentance in a way conecides with the consept that death is the end. So your being sentanced to oblivion. Technically it's fair but realistically it's not. I rather my killed be locked up for 50 years then die then get a needle...

What's wrong with life in a top-security prison? They'll die anyway. Just becasue they killed people doesn't give someone else the right to kill them. Doesn't that just make that person a murderer as well? It's an awful circle.

It's easy to kill a murderer, but is that really a punishment? In my sense it easier on them because they know they won't rot in prison.

What should happen is those people that murder should be put into prison for life and no chance of parole. They'll rot in prison for the rest of their lives and it makes it a much worse punishment then death.

But than again logic and fairness does not exist in the American trial system.

One of the few reasons I'm proud to be British is that we don't hang people. Thank heavens. I think I'd actually leave the country if we brought back the death penalty, because in my view, it has no place in the kind of society I'd like to belong to.

I'm probably not going to convince anyone with my justifications, but my beliefs on this matter are so deeply set I'll never change them. So I'll just post an extract from The Fellowship of the Ring, which I think sums up my point of view perfectly:

'Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.'

amysteriousglint:

Why do we kill people,
Who kill people,
to prove that killing is wrong?

Thats all i got to say.

That pretty much sums it all up.

princess.:

"You can murder a murderer, but you can never murder murder itself." --Martin Luther King, Jr.

End of story.

i agree

I don't think we should have it.
Because it basically makes us like them.

Kurtni St. Cyr:

Congratulations, you have made the exact same post that about 948768937689237 people have made.

you didn't have to be rude about that...

i don't really know what i think about the death sentence.
i mean sometimes i think that the person deserves it, (Sadam, child molesters, etc)
and other times i don't...

i guess it just depends on what you did
and how the jury and the judge views it.

I really do not think the death sentence is necessary in any way, shape, or form. It just doesn't make sense to me. Violence begets violence begets violence. I thought we'd moved past that as a society.
I guess I was wrong.