Abortion. #2.

Dancing Caveman:

I forget the statistic, but there are quite a few women who were using some form of contraceptive and still got pregnant- thus getting an abortion.

Yeah, I am aware of that, most people are actually which is why I think even if you are using protection you are still voluntarily running the risk of getting pregnant and therefor should deal with the consiquences rather than getting an abortion (I don't know if I'm wording this properly, argh). A fetus is human and I believe it should be given the chance at a life, even if the woman chooses to give it up for adoptuion, that's better than killing it.

vince noir.:

Yeah, I am aware of that, most people are actually which is why I think even if you are using protection you are still voluntarily running the risk of getting pregnant and therefor should deal with the consiquences rather than getting an abortion (I don't know if I'm wording this properly, argh). A fetus is human and I believe it should be given the chance at a life, even if the woman chooses to give it up for adoptuion, that's better than killing it.

How is getting an abortion not dealing with the consequences? The woman is making a choice that is right for her. Perhaps pregnancy is the more 'irresponsible' path?

Again, getting an abortion shouldn't be seen as the "wrong" thing to do just because you may not get one yourself, or like the idea of it. For some women, getting an abortion provides a relief, and for some women they personally feel it is necessary.

Bardot.:

How is getting an abortion not dealing with the consequences? The woman is making a choice that is right for her. Perhaps pregnancy is the more 'irresponsible' path?

Again, getting an abortion shouldn't be seen as the "wrong" thing to do just because you may not get one yourself, or like the idea of it. For some women, getting an abortion provides a relief, and for some women they personally feel it is necessary.

Like I said, I don't think I was wording it properly, consiquences isn't really the right phrase, I know. I'm just going to say this and then I probably won't post here again because I think I've gotten my opinion across, I believe abortion should be legal, the choice should definately always be there for women, though I don't believe women should make that choice unless it is absolutely necessary.

It depends on what is viewed as 'necessary', I guess. A woman who was on the Pill but it failed and she became pregnant might deem it necessary for her to get an abortion because of her life circumstances at that point. Another woman might deem it necessary to get an abortion if she had unprotected sex once, and became pregnant.

Etc.

A good amount of people who are against abortion are usually pro-death penalty.
And the people who are pro-abortion are anti-death penalty.

For the people who are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty I suppose it's because they think that since it's just an embryo, they haven't had a chance to live whereas someone who is being put to death has already lived in made their own mistakes.

The people who are pro-abortion and anti-death penalty usually view it has the embryo not being a full human and the criminal being one. Therefore, the criminal should not be killed and the embryo could be abolished.

Partial-birth abortion seems wrong on all terms, to me.
To me, it's different depending on what stage of development the abortion is performed. If it's in the very beginning, I don't see a problem with it. But if it's towards the end, I find it very cruel.

Adam Gontier.:

Partial-birth abortion seems wrong on all terms, to me.
To me, it's different depending on what stage of development the abortion is performed. If it's in the very beginning, I don't see a problem with it. But if it's towards the end, I find it very cruel.

Partial-birth abortion is only legal in the United States if the mother is going to die.

^Oh, I didn't know that. I'm sorry.

Adam Gontier.:

The people who are pro-abortion and anti-death penalty usually view it has the embryo not being a full human and the criminal being one. Therefore, the criminal should not be killed and the embryo could be abolished.

I think you're looking at this a little . . . oddly.
Because a pro-choice person isn't saying all women should get abortions. Or that the embryo isn't worthy of life. Or anything like that. They're simply agreeing that a woman has the right to make decisions about her own body.

I'm weird on death penalty. For me, it depends on each case. But the difference, to me, is that the person on death row doesn't make a decision particular only to them and their body. They take a life that belongs to another person, another family.

A fetus isn't a person.

(Because, correct me if I'm wrong, you only get the death penalty if you take a life or orchestrate the taking of a life.)

^I like to look at things from all different view points. Of course, it'd be hard to cover them all.

I totally agree; a fetus isn't a person. Therefore, I don't think they should be...treated? the way a human is, if that makes any sense.

I don't see abortion as destroying the moral fabric of society, but more of a choice.
I'm pro-choice because if a woman gets pregnant by foul play (you can take that however you want) then I think she can do whatever she pleases with her body.

That's how I always viewed it. To shorten things up quickly I don't see a problem with it.

I am totally pro-choice too.
It should be a woman's right to choose.

Adam Gontier.:

I am totally pro-choice too.
It should be a woman's right to choose.

I am pro-choice, within reason, if that makes any sense.

^ It doesn't, strictly speaking. You're pro-choice, but not all the time that they want to make that choice? That's like me saying I'm vegetarian, but not when my mum's cooking chicken.

Maybe you are pro-abortion, but only in certain circumstances.

As a pro-choicer, I advocate the right to choose in all circumstances.

It's In The Blood:

As a pro-choicer, I advocate the right to choose in all circumstances.

I agree. Someone once brought up that a woman wanted to get an abortion because the baby would be born under the wrong astrological sign. Some people were like, "Yeah, she shouldn't get an abortion."

I think she should. I mean, if anything, should a person like that actually have children?

Personally I don't like the idea of abortions. I mean, it's killing an unborn child.
But I think they should still be allowed. In some cases, they can really help.

spiritual advisor.:

Personally I don't like the idea of abortions. I mean, it's killing an unborn child.
But I think they should still be allowed. In some cases, they can really help.

Actually it's the termination of a pregnancy/fetus.
It's not a child until it's been removed from the uterus.
But most people don't like the idea of abortions.
I think most people wish they weren't necessary and that every child could be born into a wonderful, loving home.
Pro-choice people support the right of the woman to make the choice. It's not like they're saying "abortions for all" or anything.

It speaks for itself. News Article.
Why is a child getting pregnant in the first place?

(Incidentally, is there a teenage pregnancy thread? Search is being bothersome.)

^Interesting. So he's arrested because he had sex with his wife.

morayah.:

It speaks for itself. News Article.
Why is a child getting pregnant in the first place?

(Incidentally, is there a teenage pregnancy thread? Search is being bothersome.)

There's a teenage pregnancy thread here, it would be better fitting there I think...

Dancing Caveman:

I agree. Someone once brought up that a woman wanted to get an abortion because the baby would be born under the wrong astrological sign. Some people were like, "Yeah, she shouldn't get an abortion."

I think she should. I mean, if anything, should a person like that actually have children?

*giggle*

Possibly not. But at the end of the day our personal opinion on it shouldn't matter really - which is what we're agreed on, rightt? We've gotta want equal rights for all.

And God, imagine what could have happened! The wrong star sign!! That would be awful. I could never have a virgo baby. It'd be like my mother! Or my first ex! OR BELLA SWAN. *faints*