Gerard & Lyn-Z Way's "Dallas" Photo Stirs Up Mixed Feelings

Being famous doesn't excuse people from stuff like this.

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Exactly. And neither does the band you're in. There's a difference between being controversial and disrespectful anyway.

I'm not even American but I find this... disturbing. :/

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I'm not American either. I've never studied JFK's assassination in school, but I can still understand just how...upsetting this is, if that's the right word.

Found this on Buzznet. And I agree with most of what they're saying:

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so does that mean when people make movies about people's deaths it's wrong too? just a question

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It depends. Are they beautifying a murder scene? Replacing splattered blood with roses? Making the recreation look more like ad-copy than drama/storytelling/history?

And if they are, why are they making those artistic choices? If, as a viewer, we are unable to discern WHY they're making those choices, and if the artist's statement when asked about those choices is "suck it" then... well, "wrong" or not, it's FAILED ART.

I say agree with most of it, because I don't think it would have improved the situation much to have them represent the event realistically, but I do agree that beautifying it isn't right. To be honest it just seems watered down.

^I agree 100%

No matter what anyone does, it will never be beautified.
Besides.....why would anyone want to?

JFK was assassinated right next to his wife during a parade.
That could never be made beautiful. Ever.

I just wish they would release a statement at least explaining how Lyn-Z is meant to be the Rumor and all that. People might understand it a bit better then.

vince noir.:

I just wish they would release a statement at least explaining how Lyn-Z is meant to be the Rumor and all that. People might understand it a bit better then.

I wish they would do that.
Better late than never, right?

I believe the picture itself is very beautiful and artistic.
I respect both Gerard and Lyn-Z as artists in musical sense and art alike.
I personally am not offended by the picture, but it's very easy to see why people would be.
This is two people who weren't even born when the event happened, reenacting an assassination of someone who is deemed a national hero.
I've always found the actual event rather upsetting, especially from Jackie's perspective.
And looking at this picture, I'm looking at Lyn-Z and all I see is this snippet of Jackie from a documentary I saw, scrambling at the back of her husbands head as if she's trying to keep his skull together.

It has to be said, as much as I admire and respect them in a lot of aspects.
They handled this horribly.
They really really did, and tbh, that's what I'm most offended by, the way they handled the situation.

I think its a beautiful picture and Lyn-z looks hot in it!

^jeordie. is on a Mibba break, but she asked me to post this in response to you :)

"I already knew that Lindsey is The Rumor in the picture, but it doesn't change my opinion on it much, if at all. Even though the event's been partly fictionalised, it's still being presented as that event, Gerard's still posing as JFK in death. It's not like this is Last Days where Michael Pitt was obviously representing Kurt Cobain, but under a different name- that was fictionalised and Gus Van Sant's fictional take of what happened. Everyone knows that JFK was shot, people saw it happen and seeing it beautified and toned down like this is upsetting to some (I haven't seen the footage myself, but I've had it described to me and it is no way "beautiful.") - not to mention that Michael Pitt actually researched for the movie, he talked to Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore who were friends of Kurt Cobain and judging by the fact that they helped him to become Kurt in the movie I guess you could say, it's pretty clear that they had no qualms with it.

Lindsey knew what she was doing when she uploaded it to Twitter. She knew people were offended by it, but she decided to shove it in peoples' faces anyway. If non-fans see it? that's her own doing. I don't care that she's in MSI and that it should be expected. I'll say it again, Marilyn Manson's always been one for shock value but he had enough respect and integrity to explain his music video, acknowledge the bad timing and didn't get pissy at people who were offended. This is a real person who has real family and real supporters. And honestly? Having a photo representing JFK's death (no matter how "arty" you think it is) as your twitter pic doesn't exactly = respect to me.

And on another note, why does it matter how 'hot' Lindsey looks in the photo? She could look like a Greek goddess incarnate and I'd still find this photo disrespectful."

^I couldn't agree more.

Lindsey really needs to wake up. It's obvious she can't stand the criticism very well, and I don't see how she looks 'hot' in this at all.

^ Surely, whether she looks hot or not is a matter of opinion?

I still think it's a gorgeous photo, but that they handled the thing badly.
I really don't see it as beautifying a tragic event, though.

I didn't even know people got offended by that photo, and I don't get why.
It's not like they're making fun of JFK or what happened in any way.
Would anyone mind telling me the business with Lyn-Z?
Did she say something inappropriate or what?

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When people stated they were offended she said
"It's art. Suck it"
Which was what annoyed me tbh, I like the picture, I didn't get offended by it, but her response to criticism did.

The Marty Parade:

I didn't even know people got offended by that photo, and I don't get why.
It's not like they're making fun of JFK or what happened in any way.
Would anyone mind telling me the business with Lyn-Z?
Did she say something inappropriate or what?

Apparently, the picture is "beautifying" the tragic event.
It's not.
It's illustrating it from a fictional point of view.

But yeah, Lindsey really made the issue a whole lot bigger by not respecting the people who didn't like it and were offended by it.

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I think whether it's beautifying it or not is subjective, no?

From Wikipedia:
According to the Warren Commission[9] and the House Select Committee on Assassinations,[10] as President Kennedy waved to the crowds on his right with his right arm upraised on the side of the limo, a shot entered his upper back, penetrated his neck, and exited his throat. He raised his clenched fists up to his neck and leaned forward and to his left, as Mrs. Kennedy put her arms around him in concern. Governor Connally also reacted, as the same bullet penetrated his back, chest, right wrist, and left thigh. He said, "My God, they are going to kill us all!"[11][12]

The final shot took place when the Presidential limousine was passing in front of the John Neely Bryan north pergola concrete structure. As the shot was heard, a fist-size hole exploded out from the right side of President Kennedy's head, covering the interior of the car and a nearby motorcycle officer with blood and brain tissue.[13] Then Mrs. Kennedy said, "I have his brains in my hand."[14][15]

I'd say judging by the photo, it's supposed to be representing the moment after both shots had been fired in which case, yes, I do think it's beautifying the event.

^ But what happened in reality isn't the same as what happened in the comic, right?

I couldn't tell you because it goes from The Rumor talking to JFK to the reaction shots of other characters...which is another reason I don't see why this photo is needed, other than to promote the comic.

The Rumor says (as newjerseyatemywallet already said) "I heard a rumor that the back of your head is about to explode." I don't see why that shouldn't mean that the shots happen as they did happen in reality.