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GeekoFressh Member
 Age: 16 Gender: Female Points: 100 | November 1st, 2009 at 03:42pm Remember, remember the fifth of November, The gunpowder treason and plot, I know of no reason Why the gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot
Bonfire night, a tradition that has been carried out since 1605 to celebrate the fact that Guido Fawkes was captured for treason and therefore James I was not assassinated.
Anyone disagree or agree with this tradition?
I personally like this tradition, I enjoy going down the my local park and have a huge bonfire with fireworks and food etc. But I also think that this tradition has lost it's historical context since some people don't really know why we do it. So I feel it could be promoted more as a historical event rather than an event where children get excited to hold sparklers and watch pretty fireworks. |
elizabeth gaskell Moderator
 Age: 18 Gender: Female Points: 800 | November 1st, 2009 at 05:34pm I don't even know why we celebrate this. I mean, the fireworks and toffee side to things is really nice, as are the bonfires themselves, but I don't know who ever decided to make a celebration out of it.
Do people still burn effigies of Guy Fawkes anymore? I always found that weird. It's basically the sacrificial burning of a terrorist. Well, I know he was just the guy who hung around to light the fuse, but still. |
GeekoFressh Member
 Age: 16 Gender: Female Points: 100 | November 1st, 2009 at 07:39pm Everyone was encouraged to celebrate the fact that James I survived, and it sort of stuck. I've never burnt an effigy of Guy Fawkes. I love how Fawkes gets all the credit for the plot, having a day named after him and all, I mean if I contributed to the treason and someone else got all the fame I would be pretty jealous.  |
spiritual advisor. Member
 Age: 13 Gender: Female | November 1st, 2009 at 10:42pm I quite like it. I remember when I was in like, year five, we had to write a short story like we were one of his friends or something + mine got read out to the class.  But yeah, I think it's pretty cool. |
Chris Martin Member
 Age: 17 Gender: Female | November 1st, 2009 at 11:08pm I only just found out about this a year or two ago when I watched V for Vendetta  I think it's a pretty interesting story behind the whole holiday. |
The Doctor. Member
 Age: 19 Gender: Female | November 3rd, 2009 at 06:48pm I hate it.
I really really do.
But I hate fireworks in general. So any holiday condoning the use of them is evil. |
Looouise Member
 Age: 18 Gender: Female Points: 250 | November 4th, 2009 at 04:35am I'm sort of stuck on the fence with the whole Guy Fawkes and Parliament. I mean, treachery, asassination...all that jazz.
Sure, it's cool that James I wasn't killed and that Fawkes was caught. That's ace.
IThe problem with it is: There's a Catholic primary school in my city, St Mary's, and they have the fireworks and stuff on the Friday. And it bothers me that Catholics celebrate what a fellow Catholic attempted to do. It just seems rather contradictory, if you know what I mean?
Other than that. Fireworks: cool. |
GeekoFressh Member
 Age: 16 Gender: Female Points: 100 | November 5th, 2009 at 07:34pm Happy Guy Fawkes day. Have fun with fireworks and sparklers and fire.  |
The Doctor. Member
 Age: 19 Gender: Female | November 5th, 2009 at 08:19pm I'm comforting my pets.
I like how V For Vendetta wishes to remember it. A holiday to remember the power ideas have. |
Wilde Member
 Age: 15 Gender: Female Points: 100 | November 5th, 2009 at 09:02pm My dog and cats are going mental  My favorite think about Guy Fawkes' Night is V for Vendetta  |
Sardonic Grin Editor
 Age: 21 Gender: Female Points: 150 | November 6th, 2009 at 09:24pm Wait....Guy Fawkes was real? I thought he was just a character in a comic.... |
Chris Martin Member
 Age: 17 Gender: Female | November 6th, 2009 at 10:09pm ^ No, he was quite the real person  |
Uprising. Member
 Age: 13 Gender: Female Points: 100 | November 7th, 2009 at 12:14am yeah, but it shouldn't be about him at all, really.
he didn't even support it, he was just employed to light the fuses. |
spiritual advisor. Member
 Age: 13 Gender: Female | November 7th, 2009 at 02:58pm ^ But if you think about it, that is quite important. Isn't it also why we put Guy Fawkes' on bonfires? |
GeekoFressh Member
 Age: 16 Gender: Female Points: 100 | November 7th, 2009 at 04:03pm - Uprising.:
- yeah, but it shouldn't be about him at all, really.
he didn't even support it, he was just employed to light the fuses.
He was a supporter, and yes other people were involved but since he was caught lighting the fuse he was seen more of a traitor (to the King) than the other conspirators. Also some saw he him as the leader of the conspiracy. |
beefeater Member
 Age: 21 Gender: Female Points: 150 | November 7th, 2009 at 10:27pm It shouldn't just be about him but for some reason, probably due to documentation he is the one we name it after. |
UnFlappaBelle Member
 Age: 14 Gender: Female Points: 100 | November 8th, 2009 at 01:16pm I had to do an essay in Year 8 about whether or not he might have been framed for the gunpowder plot. There's a theory that the governement needed a scapegoat and so they set him up. |
It's In The Blood. Member
 Age: 18 Gender: Female Points: 150 | November 8th, 2009 at 09:57pm I always thought we were celebrating the fact that he nearly killed the king when I was little.
I was totally up for it.
I don't like it so much knowing that we're celebrating a guy being caught and killed by the government. And I don't like fireworks. And the boys where I live like to shoot them at girls in the streets late October through to January. |
The Doctor. Member
 Age: 19 Gender: Female | November 9th, 2009 at 01:26pm - UnFlappaBelle:
- I had to do an essay in Year 8 about whether or not he might have been framed for the gunpowder plot. There's a theory that the governement needed a scapegoat and so they set him up.
Hmm, interesting theory, there. - It's In The Blood.:
- I always thought we were celebrating the fact that he nearly killed the king when I was little.
I was totally up for it.
Republican!  - Quote
- I don't like it so much knowing that we're celebrating a guy being caught and killed by the government. And I don't like fireworks. And the boys where I live like to shoot them at girls in the streets late October through to January.
Fireworks are pointless. I despise the things. If I wanted to watch pretty lights in the sky then I'd go alien hunting. |