Society and Homosexuality.
We all have our opinions. We all have a right to our own opinions for that matter, yes, however sometimes people voice their opinions in ways that they know will blatantly hurt people. I honestly don't understand that.
I have a two friends that are bisexual, one that is gay. Well, while out with the gay friend, Brennan, we stopped at the grocery store quickly. This group of people from my old school (the school he currently goes to) starting shouting vulgar things at him and were calling him a f*ggot, h*mo and other synonyms of that. If it was as horrible for me just to hear it, I can only imagine how horrible it must of been for him to hear it firsthand. I wanted to punch them out, curse them out, everything. I understand that they have their opinions, and I respect them, but that was just so wrong of them. And the kicker to the whole situation is, Brennan isn't even openly gay! I mean, yes, he'll say he is if you ask or something, but he doesn't go around flaunting it and he certainly doesn't go around making-out with other guys or anything. He's smart enough to realize how biggoted some people are and keeps himself out of the line of fire.
I understand that some people believe homosexuality is against God's wishes, that He believes it's wrong. I can understand that. I am not a very religious person at all. Yes, I believe in God and the whole concept of The Bible, but I can look at it from both prespectives easily; the religious and the non-religious. I'll respect your beliefs if you're against homosexuality. I don't go around talking about it unless you pointedly insult someone- that's when I have to say something.
What is it with this society? Just because you're gay you're an outcast and you're this horrible, disgusting person? I'm completely straight, and it still hurts me when people talk about homosexuals that way or insult them. As I said before- and not to be repetitive- if it hurts me, a straight person, I can only imagine what the person being insulted feels like. The common rule, "Do until others as you would have them do unto you" hasn't gone out of style, has it? Or do some people believe that just because they're religious they have to right to attack gays? And it's not just religious people, too! I mean, I personally can see you having more amo for being against homosexuality and believing it's wrong if your religious beliefs are your reasons for believing in that. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but that doesn't mean they have the right to insult, degrade, and make their lives miserable just because they want to. Would you want someone to insult or hurt you?
I don't believe it is wrong to be gay personally, although I don't give people any crap just because they happen to disagree. I believe that everyone has the right to love and that everyone has the right to express that love however they wish to. So, long story short, I obviously believe in complete equality among homosexuals and heterosexuals. Now by saying this does that automatically mean I am all for gay marriage? No, it doesn't mean that, but it also doesn't mean that I don't believe gay's should be given the right to marriage and to make their own choices in that regard. I believe the law is unfair in that area, but I know everyone in the world doesn't agree with me. I wouldn't say that gay marriage is completely necessary, but then again I don't believe marriage between two heterosexuals is completely necessary. I don't understand why people can't just be happy with a comitted relationship, but that's a whole other topic I won't get into.
I also don't believe that being gay is a chemical imbalance in the brain or a disease, or anything along those lines. I believe that your sexual orientation is something you're born with and though you may not realize exactly what orientation you belong under until much later in life, I do believe you're born the way you are. There's no control over it, contrary to some of the things I've heard others say; you can't just 'turn straight' or control your thoughts or feelings. They're there, and you have to either learn to accept them or be miserable your entire life. Think of it this way: if someone called you vulgar things every day just because of your sexual orientation, regardless of whether or not homosexuality is "wrong or right", it wouldn't make you feel to optimistic about life, would it? Something as liking the opposite sex or someone of your gender is so straightforward.
But in all honestly, I believe that a lot of people are just scared of the idea of homosexuality. They don't understand it, and the old saying 'you fear what you are unable to comprehend' rings true in this topic, I think.
Yeah, I know the old saying, "It was Adam and Eve in the Bible, not Adam and Steve." It is not necessary for you to shoot that one at me. When it comes to the Bible and God saying that it is a sin to 'lay with another man', I disagree. I pick through the Bible and, as incorrect as this may be of me, choose to believe in the things I believe are right and disregard the things I don't agree with. You don't need to chastise me for my beliefs regarding religon. In fact, if at all possible, can we try to leave religion entirely out of this and just speak our opinions, okay? Whether your beliefs regarding this have to do with religion or just personal thoughts having nothing to do with religion, I will obviously respect your opinions and beliefs as long as you respect mine.
I have a two friends that are bisexual, one that is gay. Well, while out with the gay friend, Brennan, we stopped at the grocery store quickly. This group of people from my old school (the school he currently goes to) starting shouting vulgar things at him and were calling him a f*ggot, h*mo and other synonyms of that. If it was as horrible for me just to hear it, I can only imagine how horrible it must of been for him to hear it firsthand. I wanted to punch them out, curse them out, everything. I understand that they have their opinions, and I respect them, but that was just so wrong of them. And the kicker to the whole situation is, Brennan isn't even openly gay! I mean, yes, he'll say he is if you ask or something, but he doesn't go around flaunting it and he certainly doesn't go around making-out with other guys or anything. He's smart enough to realize how biggoted some people are and keeps himself out of the line of fire.
I understand that some people believe homosexuality is against God's wishes, that He believes it's wrong. I can understand that. I am not a very religious person at all. Yes, I believe in God and the whole concept of The Bible, but I can look at it from both prespectives easily; the religious and the non-religious. I'll respect your beliefs if you're against homosexuality. I don't go around talking about it unless you pointedly insult someone- that's when I have to say something.
What is it with this society? Just because you're gay you're an outcast and you're this horrible, disgusting person? I'm completely straight, and it still hurts me when people talk about homosexuals that way or insult them. As I said before- and not to be repetitive- if it hurts me, a straight person, I can only imagine what the person being insulted feels like. The common rule, "Do until others as you would have them do unto you" hasn't gone out of style, has it? Or do some people believe that just because they're religious they have to right to attack gays? And it's not just religious people, too! I mean, I personally can see you having more amo for being against homosexuality and believing it's wrong if your religious beliefs are your reasons for believing in that. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but that doesn't mean they have the right to insult, degrade, and make their lives miserable just because they want to. Would you want someone to insult or hurt you?
I don't believe it is wrong to be gay personally, although I don't give people any crap just because they happen to disagree. I believe that everyone has the right to love and that everyone has the right to express that love however they wish to. So, long story short, I obviously believe in complete equality among homosexuals and heterosexuals. Now by saying this does that automatically mean I am all for gay marriage? No, it doesn't mean that, but it also doesn't mean that I don't believe gay's should be given the right to marriage and to make their own choices in that regard. I believe the law is unfair in that area, but I know everyone in the world doesn't agree with me. I wouldn't say that gay marriage is completely necessary, but then again I don't believe marriage between two heterosexuals is completely necessary. I don't understand why people can't just be happy with a comitted relationship, but that's a whole other topic I won't get into.
I also don't believe that being gay is a chemical imbalance in the brain or a disease, or anything along those lines. I believe that your sexual orientation is something you're born with and though you may not realize exactly what orientation you belong under until much later in life, I do believe you're born the way you are. There's no control over it, contrary to some of the things I've heard others say; you can't just 'turn straight' or control your thoughts or feelings. They're there, and you have to either learn to accept them or be miserable your entire life. Think of it this way: if someone called you vulgar things every day just because of your sexual orientation, regardless of whether or not homosexuality is "wrong or right", it wouldn't make you feel to optimistic about life, would it? Something as liking the opposite sex or someone of your gender is so straightforward.
But in all honestly, I believe that a lot of people are just scared of the idea of homosexuality. They don't understand it, and the old saying 'you fear what you are unable to comprehend' rings true in this topic, I think.
Yeah, I know the old saying, "It was Adam and Eve in the Bible, not Adam and Steve." It is not necessary for you to shoot that one at me. When it comes to the Bible and God saying that it is a sin to 'lay with another man', I disagree. I pick through the Bible and, as incorrect as this may be of me, choose to believe in the things I believe are right and disregard the things I don't agree with. You don't need to chastise me for my beliefs regarding religon. In fact, if at all possible, can we try to leave religion entirely out of this and just speak our opinions, okay? Whether your beliefs regarding this have to do with religion or just personal thoughts having nothing to do with religion, I will obviously respect your opinions and beliefs as long as you respect mine.
Posted on November 7th, 2009 at 10:51am
My Religious Education teacher brought up something last Sunday that I thought was really an interesting statement. She said that some people are devout Christians and follow the Bible religiously, such as never getting a haircut, or not allowing women to speak in church.
But Catholics are not like that. They are open to interpretation. My interpretation is that God doesn't have a problem with homosexuals, he has a problem when they have sexual intercourse. I was taught that that's why he doesn't like them, because when he created man, he meant for them to reproduce and create new life. With homosexuals, there is no way that can happen naturally.
permanentdeclaration, November 11th, 2009 at 10:25:05pm
Oh, my God. I completely agree with you one hundred and eleven thousand percent. Hahaha. I am not a relgious person. In fact, I dispise how the Catholic Church runs itself. But do I believe in God? In heaven? In a greater conquer over evil? Of course I do. My father passed away just a year ago and many people look at me like I'm in insane when I say I don't particularly like church or like the way the Catholic church conducts itself. And this is way, the main reason why (which branches off in any reasons)
The way they treat homosexuals.
It's horrible and absolutely disgusting. It's hyprocritical because hardcore Catholics are always saying they preach tolerance and acceptance of people, but then they go around and deny someone else's rights. It's wrong, wrong, wrong and it makes my blood boil. I have tow relatives a a couple gay friends of mine and they claim to be very relgious, which I support because they're very close to me. However, the one time they went, the church was passing around a petion to end gay marriage. How would you feel, if you were a young confused kid at church who is just trying to find his/her way to happiness, when the church just decides to pass a piece of paper around denying and discrimating against you.
To sum this all up (because I truly can talk for hours on this subject), gays should be able to do anything they want. It's a matter of freedom and the Catholic church trying to deny their freedom is going against, quite plainly, what they believe and probably what God[i] (far be it for me to say what He wants, though) believed.
Although, we must put in prespective that yes, society sucks and I don't agree with it, but many Catholics (mostly loose Catholics) like my own mother, fully support it and we must look on the postive. Society [i]is changing. Many states, like Maine, are saying that it is okay to be gay and for them to get married. Hopefully the world will come around. I, however, will always do what I can to spread acceptance of gays in our society because honestly, when happiness comes, it comes. No questions asked.
Tea Junkie, November 8th, 2009 at 06:13:51pm
permanentdeclaration I see it like with anything else. God doesn't like sin, yet it exists. And I think it's kind of like that, humans don't choose to sin, we just do. It's as much of a part of life as breathing is. We just do it. Homosexuals don't choose it (well, I believe some people do) they just are. So I don't really believe God 'created' homosexuals.
That being said, they're still humans, God loves them the same as anyone else, Jesus stilled died for them. A person's sexuality means crap all.
Your.Pink.Diary, November 7th, 2009 at 10:05:56pm
:) the bible, and many other religions aren't against homosexuals,
it's really just against homosexual intercourse...
Love is love, it's just the sex part that most religions
forbid...so Christian, Catholics, and Muslims, or any other
religious pushers, need to calm down. Gays aren't going
to hell for being gay, besides all religions state that one can
always be forgiven. I mean, I don't think if god were real,
he'd just be so terrible to someone so kind hearted just for
being attracted towards the same sex. I'm bisexual and I
love both bodies, and their minds. I love how a guy can be
mean, and tough but soft on the inside, and I love how a woman
can be sweet, docile, or cutely obnoxious at times.
I don't have a religion because my beliefs don't fall
in one, but if any God were alive, I know I'm not a bad
person, and that any God would still love me.
Rainla, November 7th, 2009 at 08:06:47pm
I am of no religion, really. I'm actually very confused about what I believe in lately.
I don't feel a 'connection' with anything, my grandparents are hardcore Catholics, the others hardcore Muslims.
My dad believes in science, and my mother just in God. But not anything big. She doesn't go to church, doesn't study the Bible.
But anyways, away from religion, I have a strong opinion about this.
It's wrong to discriminate just because of someone's sexuality. It's not something they can change, they are indeed born with it. Love is love.
bette davis eyes., November 7th, 2009 at 04:46:57pm
Here's my thoughts: I grew up in a household that couldn't decide how to raise me. My dad is Methodist and my mom is Catholic. I was baptized as a Methodist, and actually went to a Methodist church up until around 1st grade. That's when my mom converted me, and I recieved First Communion.
This is getting religious, so I'll get to my point. AHAHA.
My best friend, Catherine, and I met in 4th grade. She's a very strict Catholic, and totally disagrees with homosexuality. I, on the other hand, agree with you: I believe it's 100% something that you are born with, and cannot change whatsoever.
Here's my question: if God made us, then why did he make homosexuals if he didn't agree with it?
That's something to think about, I think.
permanentdeclaration, November 7th, 2009 at 03:52:32pm
That saying is stupid.
and I'm a Christian.
Honestly, I don't give two hoots as to what a persons sexuality it is. Another persons sexuality has nothing to do with me (unless they're interested in me, then it has a little to do with me) and because of that I don't care.
You know what? I honestly believe that the act of homosexuality is a sin (the act, bit of a difference) however, I also believe in a forgiving, loving God who, as long as a person has accepted Jesus as their saviour, wont condemn them. Cause it's the same as any other sin isn't it? I don't get why other Christians get all up in arms about it when it's no different to other sins they themselves have committed. It just baffles me.
If someone who is homosexual decided to bring God into their lives, it's their thing to deal with. And until they stand in front of me and ask for my advice, I'm not going to tell them what I think is right and wrong.
Your.Pink.Diary, November 7th, 2009 at 12:38:01pm
Change-
If there was a god, i don't think I would be smarter than him. But God didn't write the Bible, and a lot of the stuff in there was only relevant at the time. There are some good ones like Thous Shalt Not Kill, don't get me wrong. But being gay isn't really causing harm-at least any more harm than a straight relationship.
And when I said 'the situation is horrible' I don't know how you can deny it. Unless you are gay or have witnessed the act of gay violence, you wouldn't know. People die over this. If you read the entry, it certainly isn't acceptable to be treated that way.
I totally respect that you believe in god, but you should respect that I don't in return.
Thorazine, November 7th, 2009 at 12:09:40pm
V. Sorry if I was rude, but it just annoys me when I see that sort of thing. My apologies, it just seemed that way.
Benjamin Barker, November 7th, 2009 at 11:54:42am
Benjamin Barker: Not trying to force anything on anyone, but excuse me for doing so. I apologize.
Change, November 7th, 2009 at 11:50:42am
Change - As she stated, and I completely agree, she does not believe in god, so stop forcing opinions on others, yeah? Some people hate it when they're told "God is real", I know I do.
Thorazine - I completely agree with everything you said.
Benjamin Barker, November 7th, 2009 at 11:48:44am
This is an issue that makes me really angry. I'm not gay myself, at least I haven't experienced anything that would make me believe I am, but I still get really angry when people are prejudiced against people that are a bit different. It's the same thing with racism. It's okay to be scared, but it's possible just to THINK that you don't like them. I don't get why they feel the need to tell them.
Lykwoah, November 7th, 2009 at 11:31:31am
Thorazine : Sorry to out you, but I'm quite the believer and do believe I'm pretty knowledgable about this whole bible topic you've drifted at. In Jesus' time, it was accepted in that part of the world--times have changed of course, and it's in God's will that we no longer think it is right (generally speaking, of course). So, please, do not think you're smarter than the one that created you. He is not a bad...spirit, I should say. He would never want harm to be bestowed upon his people, and it's very offensive to me that you'd say something like that. It's not "horrible" at all, it's just life. Please--snap back into reality.
Change, November 7th, 2009 at 11:31:12am
I have no idea how people go around saying hateful things about gays. I'm pretty gay, but technically bi, so maybe I don't count, but it's just so disrespectful.
I mean, sure the bible says it's wrong, but the bible also says it's a sin to wear poly-blend fibers, and it's a-okay to own slaves. (sorry if that offends, but it really is in there)
The situation's really horrible.
In the future, hating gays will be a lot like being racist, I bet. Shameful.
And then there's the whole marriage thing. The excuse is that god said men and women get married, right?
Well, I don't believe in god, so why should he impose on my civil rights?
Why should a conservative Christian who has no idea what my life is like or who I am decide if my wife can visit me in the hospital legally?
I cried when prop 8 passed, btw, if anyone knows what that was.
Tell your friend I'm terrible sorry that happened.
It's a shame this country hasn't learned it's lesson from the 60's civil rights crisis.
Thorazine, November 7th, 2009 at 11:27:35am