I think think they're sell-outs. I think they actually enjoy making music and I think they're good at it. I did not mean for this entry to be disrespectful to either bands, as I quiet enjoy the music of the both bands.
Haha! Weeeell, both bands are total sell-outs anyhoo. PatD (note the lack of exclamation point) is half a band. And FOB had gone to the dark side a LONG time ago (from the beginning, basically).