The balance point of religion and atheism -- not sure who's worse about it. - Comments

  • wish on a firefly

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    That... This blog... I agree with it so much. Al, Hina wants to hug you. :) I love having a nice friendly discussions but when things start getting hateful I try finding an easy way out and ignore it. People will always put others down for different beliefs or ideas if you actually think about it though. Think

    @ concubine
    I don't think there's a true definition to anything, but what Al posted is exactly what most dictionaries have as the definition of open-minded. And you practically shot down the views of another person by being close minded.
    December 3rd, 2012 at 05:59am
  • Mike Donovan

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    I find this very interesting. I was raised in a Christian household, but I myself am a bisexual humanist... I really do hate it when people are stupid about the whole "faith vs atheism" thing. As a humanist, I don't readily believe in things that can't be proven, but I do believe in God (as the embodiment of all of that which cannot be proven). In all honesty, life itself is a big mystery and no one will ever be able to tell us who's right... So what's the point in fighting over it?
    December 3rd, 2012 at 12:52am
  • NathanWatt

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    @ Lion
    Lol, yeah, I do think that's a good way of saying it too.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:27pm
  • Lion

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    @ concubine
    I just don't even know what to say to you, anymore. That's all.

    And so you get a gif of an awfully thunderstruck Ryan Reynolds.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:25pm
  • Lion

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    @ Bonkers.
    Exactly what I think about horoscopes. And I'm glad you found the whole sun/moon combination thing fun. Such interesting stuff... c:
    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:22pm
  • concubine

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    @ Lion
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    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:21pm
  • Lion

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    @ NathanWatt
    And I totally wouldn't have thought anything of it if he had worded it differently. In fact, I think I said something like, "Faith is a man-made concept relied upon for hope and security." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was a much kinder way of stating something along the lines, haha... xD I didn't claim whether or not anything was "nonexistent".
    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:19pm
  • Lion

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    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:16pm
  • delirium.

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    Oh, I don't believe in horoscopes either. If I did I can't count how many times a month I would be meeting my one and only, or some other rubbish. But like I said, they are fun. My grandmother and I would just sit and read them and come up with little exaggerations. So, I just calculated the moon sign and it is eerily right, fun to do. (My combination was sun sign Taurus with moon in Virgo) It was really interesting to read and I am going to pass this on to my cousin since she also likes reading up on things involving astrology.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:14pm
  • NathanWatt

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    @ Lion
    Honestly thought you were joking about the Flying Spaghetti Monster thing lol. Well, as you say, you know him, so you'd know how he's intending to mean things and coming across.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:14pm
  • concubine

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    @ Lion
    i hope you do realize that no matter what dictionary or website gives a definition to it, its still an undefinable, stupid idea that someone made up. i hope you do realize.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:11pm
  • Lion

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    @ concubine

    o·pen-mind·ed [oh-puh n-mahyn-did]
    adjective
    1.
    having or showing a mind receptive to new ideas or arguments.
    2.
    unprejudiced; unbigoted; impartial.

    The fact that you are calling open-mindedness meaningless and stupid is proving the point of this blog, I hope you do realize.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 10:01pm
  • Lion

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    @ NathanWatt
    I know that kid, though, and I know that he possesses atheist views. It wasn't necessarily that I made a conscious choice to stop listening to him, but more that my brain decided that the information wasn't important enough to encode into a retrievable memory. Besides, the fact that he referenced the whole "flying spaghetti monster" thing, I find extremely offensive. That in itself is implying a fairly bigoted view of faith.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 09:58pm
  • concubine

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    @ Lion
    that is not the definition of an open mind, there is no definition. their couldn't be. its meaningless and stupid.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 09:57pm
  • folie a dru.

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    i agree. there is no reason for anyone of any faith to belittle anyone because they believe/don't believe something different. it should be a non-issue.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 09:55pm
  • Lion

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    @ concubine
    Open-mindedness is the ability to see something from another individual's perspective and accept that they are different from you. Which is precisely why I mentioned the irony of this blog entry not following the boundaries of that statement. But open-mindedness does not mean that you have to sit back and let other people get hurt just because you accept the beliefs that are the cause of it. Even if it is something that I have a strong belief in, I still don't think it's right for that belief to be used as a weapon against other people. Does defending a victim from needless verbal or even physical onslaught make me close-minded? I don't think it does.

    Just because a mind is open doesn't mean that it doesn't possess a moral filter.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 09:54pm
  • NathanWatt

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    I agree that both Anthiests and Religious people need to calm down with how they treat those who aren't of the same mind and opinion, but concerning the student in English class, I think you were wrong to stop listening because of the statement he started with.

    I think that saying 'Faith is the belief in something that cannot be proven to exist' isn't being ill willed towards religion. Religious people would say that the proof is in the existance of us, of the many wonderful things that can be found in this world, but it takes belief to believe that these things are because of ones god. It isn't bad to state that's what you think.

    If he had said 'Faith is believing in non existant things' then I'd agree with your words more. But I think his wordings, if they were the true words, were quite a good approach, personally.

    I do hate when there's religious people preaching in the streets though, shouting their heads off and all. Oh, and people who are friends of the family said I'd go to hell cos I don't believe in god.... Keep that to yourself and just let me get on with my life with my own beliefs.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 09:49pm
  • Lion

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    @ Bonkers.
    With astrology, I don't at all believe in the whole "horoscope" thing. I don't think someone's experiences within a day or week or month can be predicted based on their astrological sign. I don't believe this because it's more often than not completely false and irrelevant. Unfortunately, horoscopes were the basis of our learning about the wrongs of astrology. Which is a shame. Because the real interesting aspects are those of the signs themselves. I personally find a great deal of accuracy and validity lying within one's personal sun sign, or moon sign, or rising sign, et cetera. I've known Aquarians, Libras, Aries, Scorpios, Sagittarius, Capricorns -- especially Capricorns, being that my mom and I are Capricorns -- and others who all express combinations of the traits most associated with their signs. Of course, there are variations, most simply found in sun and moon combinations. It's really fun, actually. You should try it for yourself. I've calculated mine, a few of my friends', and my parents. They were all eerily accurate, save for my dad's, but that doesn't come as much of a surprise, knowing him.

    If you haven't already done it before, you can calculate your moon sign here, and then check out your sun/moon combination here. :3
    December 2nd, 2012 at 09:44pm
  • concubine

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    but are you really open minded if you cant accept that everyone isnt going to accept one another?
    whats the point in being open minded? an open mind sounds like a stupid one to me, anything can fall in or out of something that is open
    December 2nd, 2012 at 09:30pm
  • delirium.

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    Clap I agree with every thing in this blog so much. I just cannot even. I can't tell you how many times I've been belittled by those of religion and those who are completely against it. It's like you can't win either way you turn. Also, I get that astrology isn't an exact science, but it is fun, I think so at least.
    December 2nd, 2012 at 09:22pm