REAL Feminism - Comments

Hahahaha, yeah, I know what you mean.

@ heatherlight

I didn't quite understand why you'd complain about a guy wanting to pay for your dinner especially in this economy I appreciate a guy who is a gentleman, it sure beats a guy who doesn't give a fuck. I mean seriously, which would you rather have? I'd agree some jobs are more fit for women, but I'm not going to stop someone from working in a coal mine if they really want to. I mean, if you really want to get dirty and sweaty and smelly in that black underground pit, be my fucking guest, because I sure as hell am not doing it.

That was a perfect description save for the coal mine thing and the dinner thing. The guy's a gentleman, you should be thankful. And women's vodies are less stronger than a man's, if we equal the conditions. Just like we have more boobs, they have more body mass and muscles. We can do well in coal mines, but maybe not as well as other men.

@ bitch head

You didn't hun, that's not what I meant. It sucks that people can't just relax and agree to disagree or whatever, the "everyone's gotta have the same opinion as me or else" mentality is getting really old. -.-

@ Daughter Monster
I didn't mean to jump on your ass if I did >.< And I agree, I don't like talking about feminism on most websites because you're either policed by other feminists for tiny details or made fun of by sexists. Yeah exactly!

@ bitch head

I will look into it more then. It's just hard to be super open about things. You'd think Mibba would be a great place to be open and find support but then once you write something like this, and everyone jumps on your ass. It's not necessarily a bad thing, just kind of intimidating because you never know who's going to try and show you up. I think it's very sexist to think that about feminine things. I like to dress up and wear my makeup and do my hair real nice; but that doesn't mean I'm a pussy.

@ Daughter Monster
Yes it is about that, but I encourage you to look into it a little bit more. Being an extreme feminist does not mean tasting your own period blood (girls do things like that for different reasons, to make different statements) or doing crazy shit like that, it means believing in it strongly and being an activist. I understand, we all get that, but seriously don't keep your mouth shut out of fear! Like, if someone puts you down for it, just try to explain it to them. And if they don't agree with it, they're probably an asshole, right? And I'm very feminine. My favorite color is pink, I wear skirts and dresses almost every day. That's sexist too - to think that feminine things are "weak" or stupid because girls wear them.

@ bitch head

I've never thought of it like that. I never said there was anything wrong with being a hairy lesbian; I have a half-shaved head and I'm bisexual. However, I've gotten some pretty jugemental and unfair assumptions from people that are taken way out of context. I am not an extreme feminist, I do not believe that every woman should taste her own menstrual blood or that heels are a weapon of opression created by men, ect. ect. I simply believe in feminine equality to men because we fucking deserve it. Is that not what it's about in the first place?

@ Soy un Dorito!
yeah there shouldn't be a need for feminism but there is so...
p.s. i have very narrow hips.

@ Daughter Monster
Feminism has a different definition to everyone. There is no such thing as sexism against men, because men are not oppressed and saying something negative about men is not an oppressing statement. What's wrong with being a hairy lesbian? And if people look at you like you're an asshole for being a feminist, you're around the wrong fucking people. You're not offending me at all.

@ bitch head

Feminism is supposed to be equality to men though, not superiority. I don't hate men. Granted some people could argue I do because I make sexist comments a lot. Maybe it's because men are a source of pain in my life, who cares. I just don't like being looked at like I'm some hairy lesbian that wants her revenge on the world, because that is SO not what I'm about here.
Sorry I offend you. I don't like people looking at me like I'm an asshole every time I call myself a feminist.

Feminists don't need to constantly defend themselves and say "omfg i dont hate men omoaerjgoeirj!!!" okay? Misogyny (the hatred of women) has been oppressing women for centuries because men are in power. Even if feminists did hate men, a few girls hating males is not going to be the end of the world, and it is incomparable to sexism or misogyny because of the patriarchy, and feminists hating men is not oppressing men in anyway. Hating men is not sexism because men have not been oppressed like women have, and they're not going to be oppressed as a result.

And please, if you're too scared or ashamed that someone is going to misunderstand you, don't call yourself a feminist because that would embarrassing to us.

@ dru's war paint.

I'm glad your sister has courage to be open about it, I know people get a lot of shit for that.

That's pretty horrible. That's like supporting gay rights only for white men. As I mentioned in the blog there's a lot of misconceptions about feminism, it must be the fact that there's feminists that take it extremely out of context. I'd rather not associate myself with a group that's "Equal rights for all, with the exception of....". so thank you for bringing this to my attention.

@ Daughter Monster
When I say trans* woman I mean any woman who does not fit the definition of 'cis'. They don't have to have had a gender affirmation surgery; my sister hasn't had hers yet but it doesn't make her less of a woman.

Women of color have been ignored by the movement. They haven't had the same voice or they just aren't considered as important. Trans* women sometimes are treated like 'evil men' even though they are women. They can't see them as 'real women'. Or else they just feel trapped in a very cisnormative, trans* excluding environment.

I'm not saying all feminists are like this because most of us aren't, but some are. And if someone chooses not to identify, I'm just as likely to assume they support equal rights for everyone rather than they don't think women deserve equal rights.

@ dru's war paint.

Why do trans and women of color feel hurt/ignored by the movement? I'd like to assume "feminism" is support of all women. When you say trans women do you mean men that have had a sex change to female, or vice-versa, just to clear things up?

My only problem with feminism is that I know trans* women and women of color have felt ignored/hurt by the movement. And that's not right. I identify as a feminist but when someone says they don't, I now ask them why. Most of them support equal rights for everyone, they just have problems with the way feminism has treated WOC and trans* women. That's fair.

@ Soy un Dorito!

I don't believe in making men feel like they're less than women, I just don't think it's fair that they're "dominant" creatures and seen as more valuable in society. There are some feminist views that go above and beyond realistic; I consider myself a 'feminist' within reason. As a friend of mine once put it, it should be about celebrating your femininity instead of hating it. I want to celebrate my femininity.

I agree. In my state a few years ago there was a "topless walk" in protest of the fact that men are allowed to go shirtless but women have to wear a bikini top. Men don't have boobs, therefore they don't have to cover them. I don't know why that thought never registered, because it honestly is mere common sense. I don't dress slutty because I want people to pay attention to that creativity and my brains that I should be using. I don't want to be valued for my body parts because in all honesty, 20 years from now those parts are going to be sagged and not very nice. Any intelligence I have or earn in my life I will ALWAYS have.

@ Daughter Monster
I grew up without a father figure, yet I don't hate men. My mom taught me a lot on her own and I turned out alright. Now my minion brother only has two female figures in his life, but we don't plan on making the kid feel like shit because he has a penis.

Some feminist views are just weird to me. Like, bras are a symbol of opression. Honestly, I have medium size breasts and if I walk around bra-less, they hurt like hell. It's not opression, it's comfort. Feminists sometimes go a bit overboard and that's why I don't follow that movement.

As a society, we have rules. I don't think that showing your boobs in public is a good way to feel empowered as a woman. It's been scientifically proved that, overall, women tend to be more sensitive and creative than men. We should use OUR BRAINS to empower ourselves as females, not our tits.

@ Soy un Dorito!

I defend human rights too; but it's hard to have human rights when there's certain groups being trampled on. I'm feminist because I'm simply just proud to be female, and I want to be treated equally as a man because I am worth no more and no less as a person as is my contribution to society. I've grown up in a household and a society with the ideas of "Obedience towards men" is a big thing and the men seem to think they can tell the women what to do. I don't want to grow up feeling like that is ok, so I have feminism. I wish there wasn't a need for feminism, but the way society is, there is a need for it. If I have to stick up for myself for equality and I have to fight for it, I'm willing to do that.

I agree with you on that. What I don't agree with is the fact that people seem to think that a child doesn't need their father to love them and care for them, just go out and work and provide for the family. In a family the father and the mother should be loving the child and taking care of it, not just the mother. I do think as women we are natural caregivers but men are too. I value love in my family more than I value our financial success.

I don't like seeing men showing off their bodies because to me I think the same thing when I see a woman showing off hers. A man that feels the need to show his stupid ripped abs and his stupid bulge is just as "slutty" as society would deem a woman that wants to show cleavage and leg. Men show less respect to women who dress like that, and I show less respect for a man that wants to dress like that. I don't think it's fair at all that men are allowed to let it all hang out so-to-speak, but yet women are whores.

I'm not a feminist. I defend HUMAN rights, not female rights or gay rights or black rights. We are all human beings and the fact that ALL OF US deserve equality, liberty and justice should be a given, not a struggle. A man and a woman in the same exact job should make the exact same amount of money since always. It shouldn't be something we have to fight for. There shouldn't be a need for feminism in the first place.

About women being natural care givers, feel free to hate me here, but there is a biological and a historical explanation for this: the female body is designed to give birth - wide hips and provide food - breasts that produce milk. The male body is designed to endure hunting and tasks that require a lot of physical strength - that's why men have broader shoulder and bigger arms. As the intelligent species we are, though, we have the power to change this view that men have to work, women have to take care of kids. The fact is, our bodies are different for a reason, but that doesn't mean we have to be stuck with that.

As for rape culture, I just don't get it. If a man wears a button shirt with, like, six buttons undone - showing most of his chest - and a pair of jeans so tight you can see his bulge very clearly, that's okay. But if a woman wears a deep V-neck and a short skirt, she's asking for it. Wearing appropriate clothes to work should go both ways and shouldn't be viewed as an attempt to make women feel like shit. It should be about showing professional, whether you're a man or a woman.