Death Sentences

I am 100% AGAINST the death penalty! I think it is a very inhuman thing to do. Just because someone committed an act of murdered, doesn't mean that should die to pay for what they did! I think that life sentence just would be much proper...

....What if someone was arrested, put on trial, and the sentenced to the death penalty and later on [after their death], they find evidance that, that person didn't do it? I talked a lot about this in one my classes last semester and we brought this up when we read In Cold Blood...and this is just expliantion would clear it up my question, if anyone has read the book..

If have not read the book and don't want spoilers, do not read below

in In Cold Blood, Perry and Dick were arrested and given the death penalty for killing the Clutter family. Well mainly, Dick was NOT responsible for killing the Clutter family. Perry was the one who was one who insane and killed them. Yet and still, Dick was still given the death penalty for be involved, eventhough he didn't do anything. Also, it was said that Perry could of been insane, but no one knew for sure. This is where the M'Naughten Rule comes in to play. It bascially says that a person is insane if the do not know the difference between right and wrong. So they considered that Perry was sane and gave him the death penalty.

So this goes back to the question I had asked...what if someone was given the death penalty and afterwards, they realize that person was not involved in that crime? The death pentaly is very questionable. Like, say if someone close to you [frends, family member, etc] was murdered and their murderer was given the death penalty, what would you do?

For me, no matter what, I will always would be against the dealth penalty. To me, its very wrong and cruel.

Left.For.Dead:

Life Won't Wait:

Now beheadings...they went out in the middle ages. Electric chair is old school. It should just be lethal injection so it's done quick & everyone can get on with their lives.

Lethal injections can take ages to work, the person who's been injected is also inconsiderable pain, probably hoping he'll die quickly. Think how much it would hurt.

Also, some people are on death row for almost 50years. Why? I mean, the chances are, by the time they get there chance to be killed, they'll already be dead. It would be so mucch simpler if it was just a life in jail.

When the lethal injections are performed, the person being killed is subjected to three injections.

One paralyses[sp?] them.
One renders them unconcious
&the last one stops the heart

sometimes, the second one doesnt work.
so sometimes they arent knocked unconcious.
which means, they feel the pain of their system shutting down
&cant say anything because they are paralysed.

in my social studies class last year we had to write an essay about where we stood on the issue of capital punishment.

I.. didn't actually do it but this is going to sound wierd..
I felt sick when I read about Saddam being hung.
Honest to God, I felt sick to the pit of my stomach.

I don't think the death penalty does anything good for anyone.
An eye for an eye is bullshit.

The death penalty turns criminals like Saddam into Martyrs.
If he had just been left on a life sentence in prison his face and numerous
accounts of his final breaths wouldnt have been slapped across newspapers
all around the globe.

It glamourized all he's done because he 'died for his beliefs.'

What good has come from this?

To me the death penalty is justice. It's that simple. If you kill someone purposefully, your life is forfeit in return. You had no right to deprive a person or a family of someone they loved and cared about.

I remember reading a news story a year or so ago about a man who beat his pregnant girlfriend to death. Anyone who can be that brutal deserves to die.

The death penalty is not murder. Murder was the crime committed, lethal injection is justice being rightfully served.

So.. let me get this straight..
we are killing a person who has killed, to show that killing is wrong?
o.O

Pretty much....it doesn't make sense :|

i don't believe in the death penalty. i just see it as an easy way out for some criminals. the criminals who would rather die than be put in jail. also i don't believe the death penalty doesn't solve anything. ok, so the person's found guilty and he's executed. his suffering's over. you can't say that for the victim's family.

katastrophe;:

So.. let me get this straight..
we are killing a person who has killed, to show that killing is wrong?
o.O

That's exactly what it is.
That's like spanking a child to show them that hitting others is wrong. They just get the impression that it's right in certain cases and take that as an influence.
Not to say that all criminals would see being put to death as death is right, because there are those who would regret their actions and the like.

It's an execution of someone who has committed a capital crime. It's not done to show them that they were wrong, they know what they did was wrong. And if they don't know it was wrong, they should be put in an asylum, not given the death sentence.

I don't believe in the death sentence for everyone though. I believe the death sentence should be used only in the most severe cases, such as multiple killings and severe brutality.

I agree for the death penalty for serious crimes such as were commited by Sadam Hussen. Crimes against humanity and dictatorship deserve the death penalty in my opinion. However I do believe that sentencing someone to death for drug trafficking is beyond comprehension. Here I am referring to the Bali Nine as they are now referred to. 9 young Australians who were caught trafficking heroin into Asia. (I don't know how much international people know about this.)

5 of them have been sentenced to death. That is not a fair use of the death penalty!

MissxManipulation:

To me the death penalty is justice. It's that simple. If you kill someone purposefully, your life is forfeit in return. You had no right to deprive a person or a family of someone they loved and cared about.

I remember reading a news story a year or so ago about a man who beat his pregnant girlfriend to death. Anyone who can be that brutal deserves to die.

The death penalty is not murder. Murder was the crime committed, lethal injection is justice being rightfully served.

I agree 1000000% with you!!!!!!

MissxManipulation:

It's an execution of someone who has committed a capital crime. It's not done to show them that they were wrong, they know what they did was wrong. And if they don't know it was wrong, they should be put in an asylum, not given the death sentence.

I don't believe in the death sentence for everyone though. I believe the death sentence should be used only in the most severe cases, such as multiple killings and severe brutality.

Once again...100% agreement

I watched a slideshow of Saddam being hung in a hotel in London whilst I was eating my breakfast. True story.

People say, "Oh, Saddam deserved it, because he committed genocide".
Perhaps, if we were 60 years ago, you would say "Hitler deserved it, he committed genocide".

I say no. If life really meant that much, really, you would understand that no life equals another. Saddam's body did not pay in full the bloodshed he caused. Not even close.

If you were so truly, truly appalled by the violence and mass killings carried out, you would not turn around and say "this man deserves to die". You would think "no man deserves to die". Watching 'Hotel Rwanda' did not make me think the Hutu generals deserved to die for their acts, it made me realise that life is so valuable, so precious, that one life alone cannot pay for thousands.

I can't say I'm religious. If I was; I could console myself with the parable of Sheep and Goats, I could believe that the son of man will come again and be seated at the right hand of the father, and he shall judge the righteous and cast all the sinners to burn in hell for all eternity. But I most certainly do not think we can take judgement day upon ourselves and rid the world of evil this way.

Bloodraine:

one life alone cannot pay for thousands.

Bloodraine:

one life alone cannot pay for thousands.

Does that mean you think we should be killing anyone who was involved in killing all the people Saddam Hussein killed/ordered to be killed?

Princess.:

Bloodraine:

one life alone cannot pay for thousands.

Does that mean you think we should be killing anyone who was involved in killing all the people Saddam Hussein killed/ordered to be killed?

That means I don't think we should kill anyone. Couldn't you tell from my post, I'm pretty anti-Death Pentalty? xD

You have an interesting point. Although it took me about three tries before I read it properly. So, in the example of Saddam, who do we put do death?
Saddam, for being the 'root' of everything?
Saddam's aides and advisors, because he wouldn't have been anywhere without them?
The people who voted for Saddam a long time ago?
The soldiers who actually carried out the murders?
The people who agreed with the murders?

You judge. We can keep killing and killing until the whole world is dead, but in my honest (hippie) opinion, just because Saddam killed a lot of people, does not give us the right to kill him. Its the perverse "Murder is wrong! So we'll Murder him!" logic that I really, really dislike.

Bloodraine:

Princess.:

Bloodraine:

one life alone cannot pay for thousands.

Does that mean you think we should be killing anyone who was involved in killing all the people Saddam Hussein killed/ordered to be killed?

That means I don't think we should kill anyone. Couldn't you tell from my post, I'm pretty anti-Death Pentalty? xD

You have an interesting point. Although it took me about three tries before I read it properly. So, in the example of Saddam, who do we put do death?
Saddam, for being the 'root' of everything?
Saddam's aides and advisors, because he wouldn't have been anywhere without them?
The people who voted for Saddam a long time ago?
The soldiers who actually carried out the murders?
The people who agreed with the murders?

You judge. We can keep killing and killing until the whole world is dead, but in my honest (hippie) opinion, just because Saddam killed a lot of people, does not give us the right to kill him. Its the perverse "Murder is wrong! So we'll Murder him!" logic that I really, really dislike.

I agree with that. That one line just made it slightly unclear to me.

I will quote again Martin Luther King, Jr. "You can murder a murderer, but you can never murder a murderer itself."

A murderer does not deserve to die. End of story. They should be left to rot in some prison cell somewhere for the rest of their lives so they can have time to think over what they did, maybe to start to repent. They should be left to suffer knowing that they killed another human being who [most likely] didn't deserve to die in the first place.

Princess.:

I will quote again Martin Luther King, Jr. "You can murder a murderer, but you can never murder a murderer itself."

..that just confused me.

katherineMARY;:

Princess.:

I will quote again Martin Luther King, Jr. "You can murder a murderer, but you can never murder a murderer itself."

..that just confused me.

...Yeah. Sorry. Typo.

"You can murder a murderer, but you can never murder murder itself."

There. That's right. Sorry.

ah, i see ^-^
wise man he was.