All Story Ratings In The Magazine

I understand we have underage users, but not putting NC-17 stories in the Magazine doesn't mean they won't be found. A lot of users post NC-17 stories, not just people who fit the age bracket, and a lot of underage users read them. Some stories that are rated R have had the same content because they weren't rated correctly, and sometimes stories are only rated for a single scene or "to be safe." I don't see how it's fair to not have these stories in the Magazine. Obviously some content is questionable, but the reviews can't be graphic and they have to state the rating so it isn't like a reader wouldn't know what they were walking into. And yes there's blog entries but there's no way to tell how many people read your blog anymore. Not to mention blogs aren't featured on the homepage so anyone who doesn't use the blogs won't see it upon logging in. Some stories don't even need such a high rating but authors use it so they don't have to worry about it later on.

@ ptvjaime
Precisely my thoughts. Mine and Nate's story Psithurisma was rated NC-17, so we had to fix it to R for a review.

I totally agree. Like you said, the reviews don't have to be graphic just because the story may be.

I'm so agreeing with this.

kim wonshik.:

I'm so agreeing with this.

same.

From what I've gathered when this discussion has come up in the past, the reason NC-17 stories aren't allowed on the homepage is because potential users (i.e. users without an account) can't access NC-17 stories, which could deter them, I guess? I wish we could have NC-17 stories in the Mag, though. It would allow a lot of brilliant stories the publicity they deserve.

kim wonshik.:

I'm so agreeing with this.

Totally the same!

I agree this would be really nice! You should ask the admins!

@ Fandango The first story I tried to access was NC-17 and it ended up being the reason I signed up in the first place. We could always have a notice put up when you don't have an account that says "Users Without An Account Cannot Access Stories With These Ratings." I just don't think it's a good enough reason why one rating gets discriminated against in terms of the Magazine.

@ ptvjaime
Originally, from what I've been told, Dujo wanted both NC-17 and R to be excluded from the Magazine and the admin were able to get him to allow R rated stories to stay thankfully. While I do agree with this idea, he is the owner of this site and therefore decided to not allow NC-17 stories to be featured for a reason, no matter whether we agree with that reason or not. I think he's very lenient in terms of what we're allowed to post and do on this site as it is, so not allowing NC-17 stories in the Magazine pales in significance.

@ Fandango
I think that's a reason why NC-17 stories should be featured. So people will register and make an account. That's what one of the goals of owning a website is right? To have a lot of viewers? If they write a good review about a story that is otherwise inaccessible or feature it on the homepage people will want to join so they can read it.

@ aubree james.
It's Dujo's rule, not mine. I'd guess 90% of new users are underage, so it's not all that great of an argument in terms of encouraging new usership. We all know kids read what they shouldn't, but if a parent were to stumble onto the frontpage, it wouldn't make a great impression.

Fandango:

From what I've gathered when this discussion has come up in the past, the reason NC-17 stories aren't allowed on the homepage is because potential users (i.e. users without an account) can't access NC-17 stories, which could deter them, I guess? I wish we could have NC-17 stories in the Mag, though. It would allow a lot of brilliant stories the publicity they deserve.

I really agree with this. Most users are underage any way and read/write NC-17 as it is, so why not? If people want to read a NC-17 they can join the site just like everyone else.

I personally think NC-17 reviews wouldn't deter newer members because a) the minimum age requirement is 13 (correct me if I'm wrong), and 13 year olds aren't exactly antsy about this kind of stuff; and b) the reviews don't have to focus on the NC-17 aspects of the story in question.
Also, I don't think we should be catering to non members in the first place. If they want to read a story that badly, they can make an account (the opposite effect of detering users). It just seems strange that we have this magazine that emphasizes our efforts as Mibba users, yet we're worrying about people who haven't contributed to our community at all.
In addition, users wouldn't be obliged to read the stories from these reviews.

A review was written for an NC-17 story of mine and it was able to be tastefully written without sexually explicit language. I'm not for censorship in any form, so I am totally down for this.

I feel insane:

I personally think NC-17 reviews wouldn't deter newer members because a) the minimum age requirement is 13 (correct me if I'm wrong), and 13 year olds aren't exactly antsy about this kind of stuff; and b) the reviews don't have to focus on the NC-17 aspects of the story in question.
Also, I don't think we should be catering to non members in the first place. If they want to read a story that badly, they can make an account (the opposite effect of detering users). It just seems strange that we have this magazine that emphasizes our efforts as Mibba users, yet we're worrying about people who haven't contributed to our community at all.
In addition, users wouldn't be obliged to read the stories from these reviews.

I know I already posted in here but that just said everything.

@ I feel insane I completely agree. Catering to people who do not use the website, to me, isn't fair to those of us who use the website, who contribute those reviews because anyone can, and who write the stories. It isn't fair that some brilliantly written stories will never get the attention they deserve while stories with lower ratings will. Not allowing these stories in the Magazine is also extremely unfair to writers who focus on NC-17 content because they will never be allowed into the Magazine just based on rating even if their content is brilliant.

It's just a review. A review won't describe how the sex was so hot that....and the list goes on.
Also, reading the review doesn't mean they will read the story as well, and truth be told most new users don't check the magazine or homepage.
I remember when I joined, I lied about my age back then because I liked NC-17 stories. (I truly am 22 now, LOL)
I'm sure I'm not the only one, there are many who do the same when they want to read an NC-17 story.

@ ptvjaime

I feel insane:

I personally think NC-17 reviews wouldn't deter newer members because a) the minimum age requirement is 13 (correct me if I'm wrong), and 13 year olds aren't exactly antsy about this kind of stuff; and b) the reviews don't have to focus on the NC-17 aspects of the story in question.
Also, I don't think we should be catering to non members in the first place. If they want to read a story that badly, they can make an account (the opposite effect of detering users). It just seems strange that we have this magazine that emphasizes our efforts as Mibba users, yet we're worrying about people who haven't contributed to our community at all.
In addition, users wouldn't be obliged to read the stories from these reviews.

Well said!

Personally, I've always felt like there should be a special column in the mag dedicated to showcasing/reviewing NC-17 rated stories. I can understand wanting to keep things like the featured story of the week, etc, limited to R and under, but I feel like excluding NC-17 rated stories from the magazine period is a little ridiculous.

Let's face it, a good chunk of stories on this site fall in the category of being NC-17, and if the Mibba Magazine is supposed to be a representation of Mibba, it should include those stories as well. The majority of the stories that I write personally are rated NC-17, and I've received several reviews on my stories that aren't just about the explicit material. You can review an NC-17 rated story without the review itself being explicit.

I also feel like I can't really go to the magazine for reading recommendations because I greatly prefer NC-17 rated stories and I know that none of the stories featured are going to be something that caters to that preference.

I completely agree.