To those who aren't fans of Star of David. - Comments

  • Then I thank you for the compliment.

    I'm putting it out here NOW because I can't keep it all to myself. I'll never progress if I only write it to myself and show it to friends. They'll never help me. I need honest opinions like yours or nothing good will come of it. I'm not known for writing light-hearted stuff, by the ones who have read my writing. Things like turning child molestation into a porno just makes me sick. This is a little bit of an exploitation for entertainment, yes, but weren't other movies and books about the holocaust much the same? Exploited to make money? I'm not even aiming for money, here, I'm aiming for people to read this.

    People...people I know. They're not the most literate in the world. Only the Mibbians I know are the ones who would bother to read at all (I shit you not; everyone I know only reads when forced to read for class). So I can only show it to Mibbians, and then that's not really enough. Have you ever seen/read something that made you really feel and made you want to show it to other people? That's why I wouldn't want this to be kept in the dark. Maybe this will mean something to someone.
    June 20th, 2009 at 12:25am
  • It would show more if you did just ignore it. Writing your own journal just provokes us. And me, being the rabid bitch that I am, and I am and I admit it, feed off this like a hungry vulture. Why? I really have no idea. You called me out, so I am answering. I wouldn't seek you would to instigate you. I didn't because I didn't really have a basis to. So, your writing isn't strong. That's a fact. Not like you're the worst writer I have seen on Mibba. I doubt you'd crack the top 50. So I didn't call you out, I didn't review the story because, eh, Holocaust slash isn't my thing. Consider that the biggest compliment you'll ever received. Because if I did really think you were a crap writer, I would have tore that story apart. But I didn't.

    I'm glad that YOU agree that you aren't strong yet. Which is why I question why should you even attempt it now, and put it on a public forum. You are dealing with something I know that you know is delicate. It's like, some people on this site try to write stories about child molestation, but they make it into a porno, instead. I'm not saying yours is a porno, but you are, in a way exploiting the Holocaust for entertainment purposes.

    Not like you aren't the first to do that, I have seen Hollywood movies, such as The Unborn, do that and I found it disgusting.

    I don't know, you're gonna do what you want in the end, and not like I really give a whole two shits about it anyway. I hardly remembered I wrote the journal until I saw yours. You'll do what you want in the end. Just I hope you do it with class and knowledge, and not cheapen it, at all. Write it privately and give it to a few people. Honestly, I think half your story is loosing its meaning just by BEING on mibba. Because half the people on this site only want to see Tom and Bill sexing up and not Tom and Bill in a concentration camp. Not your fault, but that's something you probably have seen.

    I don't know, do what you want. I don't care.
    June 20th, 2009 at 12:14am
  • Actually, there was a real case of a Nazi guard falling in love with a captive. And when her sister and her sister's children were brought to the camp, he intervened on their behalf and managed to save...I think just the children.

    Anyway, I'm not going to put you down for writing your story, but I sure as Hell won't read it. refuse to read anything involving incest because I think the whole concept, fictional or not, is disgusting. And I can't read/watch things about the Holocaust; it makes me sob my eyes out. It's just too horrible.

    But, it is your right to write what you want to write about, and you shuldn't delete the story because some people don't like it. They can just go my route and not read it. Simple.
    June 20th, 2009 at 12:10am
  • I'm not sure if you're talking to me or to Savannah at this point. I'm guessing it's me at this point. I'm not telling you to read it. I'm not telling you or asking you to do anything with it. Ignore it for all you like.

    Have I not been taking the backlash? I've been discussing this with you. It's not as though I'm ignoring those who aren't taking a liking to it. I'm not bashing on anyone who's not fond of it. I'm taking your opinions and everyone else's opinions. I'm not ignoring the fact that people who hate it exist or anything of the sort.

    It's cheap now because I am fifteen. I am fifteen and I'm no pro, just yet. By the time it becomes anything more than a work of bandom on Mibba, it will have been reworked and fixed up and made better. But I'm writing it right now because it is in my mind. I think about this story all the time and I'm just going to write it until it is finished. It'll be cheap now but rich with content in the future. Things aren't perfect the first time around.
    June 20th, 2009 at 12:03am
  • Ambrielle.Deneuve.
    *steals your comment*

    That's about all that can be said.
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:56pm
  • Why do I have to talk to her? I don't.
    I wrote a journal about my opinion writing a fanfiction about the Holocaust. I thought it was wrong. I thought HER writing talent wasn't sufficient enough for it.
    I thought that the Holocaust shouldn't be perverted my fanfiction, in general. And many have agreed with me.

    But if you want me to review the story, I will. I will read all five chapters and tell you exactly where I felt the story was lacking. And then you can take that and do whatever the hell you want with it. You can shit on it, delete it, or listen to the critism.

    If you want to be a writer of controversial things, you have to take backlash. I am in college as a Fiction Writing major and have taken writing workshops where I was the ONLY writer, female or male, writing about homosexuality in a closeminded town. Someone told me that because I was a woman, I couldn't POSSIBLY know what it was like to be gay in Staten Island. I was pissed, yes? But I took it because as a writer, you have to swallow a lot of fucking shit.

    I am not saying DON"T write your little fiction, I am saying think about it first. If you can't handle the backlash, don't write it, if you can't write something this delicate, don't even attempt it. YOu admitted that it would be cheapen. Why would you want to cheapen something like that? That's what I am saying.
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:52pm
  • I haven't read your story, but I understand that some people have problems with it because it's about the Holocaust. I have to say I admire you for not backing down or removing it, because there are some people who would do that. Yes, the Holocaust was very tragic and it is a controversial topic to write about. I read the summary and I think as long as the story stays true to the actual events and you aren't glamorizing it in any way, then it could turn out to be a great story. There is so much of the same old cookie cutter stories on here, it's nice to see that you are willing to take risks with your writing and do something different from the normal bandfics.

    I agree that it wouldn't really make a difference wether or not the characters were original or from a band. You like writing bandfics, so what? The majority of the stories on this site are bandfics. I'm assuming that Tokio Hotel does not exist as a band in your story, you just chose to use the band members as your main characters. In my opinion it doesn't cheapen all that much, because you are taking the band members and making them into your own characters, giving them completely different lives.

    I'm sure you were well aware before you even began writing it that there would be people who wouldn't like it or who would have a problem with it being about the Holocaust, but as is said so much on this site, "Don't like it, don't read it.". It's as simple as that.

    I'm going to read it later when I have more time, so I can form a better opinion on the story, but from reading the summary it seems interesting. It will be like an original fiction to me anyway, since I know nothing about TH. :)

    So basically, if you enjoy writing it and there are people who enjoy reading it, don't let anyone stop you.

    Sorry if this was way too long. :)
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:51pm
  • V (to Sardonic Grin)

    *sigh*

    Excuse me for not remembering your name. Apparently, that's a criminal offense now.

    If you'd read to chapter 5, you'd see that Amanda even asked for help with her research on the Holocaust.

    If I say anything else, I'm going to go into a rant. So I'll shut up.

    I notice that you haven't referred to me once by my name, so why should I do it to you?

    It's pretty sad when you have to revert to sarcasm to get back at someone.

    Change the names, then. Refer to each character as a different name. That's the only thing that you have to do to make it original (not Amanda. That gir-oh, excuse me. SARDONIC GRIN.). If you hated it so much, you should have talked to Amanda first.

    Yeah, I'm getting really pissed off so I'm just going to leave.
    I don't like being pissed off...or getting into fights.
    Sometimes people just look for them, though.
    I have a feeling I'm going to end up checking back on this journal, though.
    Sadly.
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:39pm
  • I can't not take it seriously when I have a handful of people telling me about it.

    It's an opinion. Both are. They stand.

    And currently, I am writing it for me. I'm happy with it how it is just yet.

    Edit: Actually, correction. Not that people are telling me, but that my readers seem to be fighting over it. I don't like that.
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:39pm
  • Good for you. Then you shouldn;t have taken my journal so seriously :file: I mean if you do write it for you.
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:37pm
  • I didn't get that as the notion of your journal. It seemed more like a rant about why it's wrong to write such a thing, rather than a critique of my writing ability.

    And I never opposed your opinion of my writing. That's your opinion. It stands and so does mine. I'm still young and my writing has all the time in the world to progress. I'll get fixed in due time, on my watch, by my standard.

    Then again, and I don't mean for any of this to sound rude, I never asked for you take it seriously or even read it. That's up to you. I write this for me and for the people who do like the story.
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:35pm
  • V I have a name, and it's Sardonic Grin. I am not "the girl." And consider it generous that I even read the first chapter. At least I didn't just read the summary and deem it crap. Incorrect. Get your facts straight first.

    Second, the main point of my journal was that you lack the writing talent to get the message across. That;s my opinion of your writing, and it stands. I don't think it is excecuted correctly, and I don't think it should be a fanfiction. Fix up your writing, practice, and make it original, and maybe I'll take it a little more seriously.

    And thanks for advertising my journal, I love it when people do that.
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:26pm
  • You're welcome x]

    I don't like seeing nice and talented people like you getting bashed just because you write about something controversial.

    The comment that girl made about 'I only read the first chapter' kind of ruined my impression of her. She should've taken time to read the whole thing. You can't judge until you read all of it.

    Most of the commenters didn't even read your fic.
    So they can't form correct opinions =/

    EDIT: Erm...not correct opinions. That's an oxymoron.
    Just...actual opinions. Based opinions.
    idk. My brain is shot.
    June 19th, 2009 at 11:00pm
  • It's alright. Just...this is getting too out of hand.
    Thank you for trying to stand up for me, though. It was sweet.
    June 19th, 2009 at 10:57pm
  • *cheers for Amanda*

    I tried to say that.

    But I failed. Epically.

    Sorry, hun.
    June 19th, 2009 at 10:52pm