The worst paying college degree - Comments

  • WTFMusicPerson

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    asteroid I know that much but regardless of what they did at the time they have withstood the years and become very concrete features of our society that has benefited us through time and will benefit our posterity Rather than fix just the moment. I also like that even if his plans weren't all golden at least he did things and tried stuff no one even gets the ball rolling these days. I also have my opinion about the whole civil rights thing and presidents I really see if they weren't faced with losing or gaining more votes they wouldn't have changed things at all.
    April 13th, 2011 at 09:17pm
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    WTFMusicPerson, it's hard to say we haven't had a caring president since FDR (since there were two Roosevelts) because a ton of them were working nonstop to protect our rights and prevent the spread of communism, dictatorship, and extreme repressions... FDR's programs didn't even work that well. It was World War II that got our economy going again, not his ideas. It's a misconception that he got us out of the Great Depression.
    April 13th, 2011 at 08:56pm
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    I've got my qualifications in Childcare and Education in Ireland and yes, here too it has ridiculous pay. >:|
    For the hours, effort and criteria involved, the pay is an insult.
    April 13th, 2011 at 08:04pm
  • WTFMusicPerson

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    It sounds good in theory but doesn't work out the way it should. Maybe eventually one person with enough passion will lead a cause that changes it. Or a good president =/ ... seriously feel like we haven't had a caring president since Roosevelt got us out of the great depression and started all those programs for social security welfare and national forests lol.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:55pm
  • The Way

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    @amora: And that's really all it boils down to, and why I made the journal in the first place xD Thank you for the great discussion
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:48pm
  • The Way

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    @walking: I've been there lol. You try to apply for a job but they want someone else with experience, but the reason you're applying is so you could get experience. It's very convoluted indeed.

    @dru <3

    @wtf: I don't think it works fine in terms of, like, contribution to society. It's a job that really gives so much and gets so little in return. I really admire the people who don't mind that, but that doesn't mean it's not screwed up.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:47pm
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    Walkingonbrokenglass---- I am having the same issue. I have my bachelors in human development/ psychology but most places want you to have experience. I have no idea how that works. I am hopefully going for my mater's next year and maybe have a field placement, meaning I get to go to an office and what have you. I still don't know how you gain experience if you need the job first
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:46pm
  • WTFMusicPerson

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    WalkingOnBrokenGlass You could volunteer to earn your experience. Or volunteer to work under someone. It's not pay but it gets experience points and people don't usually turn down free work.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:46pm
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    v That's capitalism for you. It sure as hell isn't a perfect system, but the fact is, the U.S. operates on a consumer-driven economy.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:45pm
  • The Way

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    @amora: And I think there is /definitely/ something wrong with that system (of how they're paid, I mean). If there was a little less monopolizing by corporate giants (like the advertising companies who earn off entertainment) and a little more equal distribution, people would be getting what they deserve. I just don't see how it's right to let the world go on as it is just because it would be too difficult to change.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:44pm
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    idk bout your country right now but I'm ok with most our resources going to pay off our countries dept lol. Teachers are better off than my dad who manages to be middle class and take care of mom with all her medical bills. I think maybe they should get insurance or health care or something but right now it works fine.

    I do think that there should be an option on taxes where people could give a few extra dollars or something to one area ie education or welfare programs etc. I doubt a ton of people will pay it but those who care about the cause will shed a dollar or two. If they are rich I would hope they spend more than that =/ rich people get so greedy.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:43pm
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    Yeah. The government always treats teachers like shit.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:41pm
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    Well, I've put in applications at our local hospital, but they want someone with at least a year of experience.
    And then you can get jobs to do it online for certain companies, but they want you to have four or more years of experience...I don't have any so I can't get a job, but if I don't have a job how can I gain experience? It's so stupid.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:40pm
  • AmorarEsDeVivir

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    v Yeah, I do agree that it's pretty sad that teachers are some of the lowest-paid people. But at the same time, as someone else pointed out, it's a matter of how they're paid, too--they're paid via tax money, whereas entertainers are paid by how many people buy tickets to the games. If a given team/arena can afford to charge $100 or whatever it is for someone to go see a baseball game, and you have hundreds of people going, dozens of times a year...well, they're going to have a lot of money to pay not a lot of people. Whereas with as many teachers as there are and only tax dollars to pay them with, and so many other things to do with the tax dollars...I won't say it can't be helped, but it would take some serious reinvesting of government revenue.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:37pm
  • The Way

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    @wtf: That bothers me, because it's not a matter of implementing more taxes as opposed to reallocating resources. Education should be in the top three priorities, of any government.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:36pm
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    @amora: I really am not saying that there aren't those worse off, but it really stood out to me that listed as the "number one worst paying degree" is being a teacher, which is pretty much like a warning bell.

    I'm not American so I'm not quite sure what the numbers mean, but the fact that being a teacher is rated as one of the lowest really got to me. They get $30k in the US, but it's not the case in other countries (or mine in particular). It's even less. And here, starting as a preschool teacher pretty much amounts to the same minimum wage as, say, a janitor in a hospital. I just hate it.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:34pm
  • WTFMusicPerson

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    Does it have to do with that they get paid by the government who riles on taxs and not exactly like a business or company who earn more or less based on production of it's employees.

    So if you get a majority of Americans to feel that way then you would also have to get a majority to be willing to pay more taxes.
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:30pm
  • AmorarEsDeVivir

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    I know it doesn't need a degree. I'm just saying, I'd kill to make $30k a year right now.

    The thing about teachers is, they're making $30k starting to $50k mid-career ($50k a year really isn't too bad a salary, especially in a two-income household), plus as state workers, they don't have to pay into their pensions or healthcare. I do agree they should make more...but that should be with the trade-off that they pay into their own programs like everyone working in the private sector does.

    (This rant brought to you by Scott Walker and having to work closely with Republicans. I don't agree 100% with what's going on in Wisconsin, but I definitely do see logic behind it.)
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:28pm
  • The Way

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    @wtf: There really is a risk when you go into specialized fields like that. They're really hard scenes to break into. It sucks all around. Minimum wage is the way to go these days lol
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:27pm
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    @the xx: I agree. But unfortunately it doesn't work that way :(
    April 13th, 2011 at 07:26pm