To all anti christian mibbians - Comments

Hail; StandUp again has another good point. Take Varg Vikernes from Burzum, he wouldn't support Norse Paganism like he didn't understand it, nor would he greatly dislike Christianity like he does without understanding it.

He's a smart man so I would go as far to as assuming he studied Christianity before making his opinion to be against it.

Lucifer'sTrap
So why can't you talk about making a symbol for non-believers? Why do you need to specifically attack Christianity? I don't really see the point in that. There's a difference between creating a symbol for non-believers and attacking an entire religion.

Lucifer'sTrap I get your point about making a symbol about something you don't believe in. But you're going about it the wrong way. If you're an atheist, then make a symbol for atheism. Not an "anti-Christian" symbol---that's just spreading hostility and hatred against one specifically targeted religion.

We never said you couldn't, it's just that you seem to be doing it for all the wrong reasons.

Before you hate anything you need to understand it, and neither of you have provided solid evidence you understand anything about either of these three religions. You can't hate something when you're so naive about it.

Hail God is all forgiving. But He's not just going to forgive you just like that. You have to truly repent in your heart when asking for forgiveness.

Religion isn't for everyone. I get that. But it doesn't mean that you have to go around saying that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are bad religions.

KatXWidowXHawk Wait, I bet that if someone was asking about 'a new christian symbol' or something of the sort you wouldn't be saying that. There are people out in the world that believe in nothing. Hail and I, for example. Why shouldn't we be able to make a new symbol for what we- don't believe in?

vv. Brainstorming seemed to be the idea.

... im kinda just brainstorming this.

Katx- aha that's a pretty interesting way to look at it I didn't consider that till now and it sounds right.

V yeah me too I'm actually posing ideas and shizz but obviously not what the author cares about.

So I usually don't touch religious stuff since it usually doesn't go anywhere.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I get the impression you wrote this journal just to piss people off? I don't understand how discussing the creation of an "anti-Christian" symbol on a Mibba journal does anything. I would assume you would want this to be a wide-spread symbol that a lot of people would know about. Why would you bother writing about it on a random journal on a site that not many people go to, then?

Lucifer'sTrap; I already made a statement like that. I don't see it as being right.

I'm pretty sure He'd know serious ones from not, I mean that's the whole point of him being all knowing right?

Again, common sense.

katXXwidoXhawk; I don't think anyone is being dragged into it. This was an open journal for those who wished to contribute ideas. It didn't demand of anyone to provide.

Lucifer- obviously it would be able to tell if something is sincere or not.

I'm not a Christian but I don't especially hate Christianity either. I dislike humanity which is why I cannot fully endorse the Humanist movement because - like the crappy socialism groups they have in my area - the way they address things annoy the fuck out of me.

Lets get one thing clear for all sides: there is no way on this earth to prove either argument's side. As long as people don't act like dicks and steal, kill and whatever, everything should be fine, regardless of waits in the mists of Sovngarde.

There is no point in rallying in anti this or pro that. Amelioration, integration and support of all beings is the best way to go down. Or a nuclear holocaust. Either way.

Lucifer'sTrap: They aren't just magic words you say to get into heaven, you have to mean them or it doesn't mean a thing

In order to be forgiven you must ask for forgivness. That's what they're saying, they say if you want to go to heaven for sure you should ask to be forgiven the same way children ask to be forgiven when they hurt someone else's feelings. Why should He forgive you if you don't see what you have done wrong?

It's common sense.

Wow just wow I mean i don't believe in a lot of things but really taking it this fare is isane its cool and all you feel so strongly but a symbol to be against religion is not good actually I think its how cults start....

If you want a symbol thats great go for it but don't try and drag the rest of us in to this with you I don't need a symbol or anything of the sort to tell my belif or thoughts hell I actually enjoy having debates on religion with people...

You starting a symbol is like you wanting your on object to worship or again start a cult with but good luck with all that

I worry about the idea of people doing exactly what they think is morally right. Imagine all those people who think it's morally right to kill people because of skin colour, religion, etc,.

StandUp Okay, yes, that does happen, your sins will be forgiven if you ask them to be, but what if there was mass murderer/rapist and he was close to death, he knew he was going to die, and he figured he would go to hell unless he asked god to forgive his sins. Now, what if the rapist/murderer just said that to get into 'the gates of heaven'. He was 'forgiven' just because he asked god to forgive him when he probably didn't even mean it.
Doesn't seem right, does it?

if he's allforgiving then why would he care about mass murders and genocide. if he was allforgiving he would just say thats ok, i forgive you, and they would recieve no punishment. Therefore, god being allforgiving cannot be logical in your religion.