Death Sentences

I have this belief that flesh is just temporary housing for humans the short period of time we are here, so when we die, it's more or less a gate opening into the abyss none of us are able to understand, which could be a utopia or some fiery hell. I think people are souls with bodies, not bodies with souls. And that their skin...is the only place of solitude, of imprisonment, at times.

If someone has done something severely wrong, and their decided punishment is the death penalty, wouldn't that be the same as releasing them? Shouldn't they remain imprisoned?

Putting that aside, let me explain further...possibly clearer.

I am strongly against the death penalty, as you can see by my previous statements. No one has the right to decide who lives and who die. No one deserves to die. Now before you give me an example of someone such as Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein, let me say that killing one man off is not going to stop their effects and what the rest of the world does. Killing them only proves their point they had from the start: the intention to spread hate. It's like a domino effect....

Hehe, I suppose no one understood that?

^I understood.
You make a good point[:
I agree whole-heartedly

I don't believe in an eye for an eye. Death is never the awenser..... EVER!!!!
What makes me mad the most is a lot of people that agree with the death penalty are also "pro life" witch makes no senecs what so ever

Let them rot in prison.
Let them out to see their families one last time before death.

If the crime really deserves even that.

they should rot in prison i say...but that cost tax money to feed them and shit
but like the columbine shootings how after the kids killed themselves, if they wouldn't have done that then i would have made them rot in jail...i wouldn't have killed them cuz that is what they want

so yea...im kinda in the middle

Who the hell is the government to kill someone because of a crime? They say murder is bad, but yet killing someone who commited a crime is fine? How do you justify that? Honestly, I think spending your life in jail is far more worse then being sent to the electric chair.

And the death sentences don't always go as planned either. There are cases where the person who is being killed turns out to be tortured because the electric chair has a bug in it or he/she is not dieing quick enough because inhaling the poisonous gas is not working, so they end up dieing a slow painful death - no one deserves it, regardless of what they have done in the past.

It looks more like a cruel and unusual punishment then a justified one.

And if a family agrees to a death penalty just because that person killed a family member - then their actions are not because they want to protect society, but more like revenge for themselves and to avenge their loved one.

I support the death penalty in certain cases.

Life in jail is too good for some people, I think. We shouldn't be wasting tax money feeding and clothing those animals.

i once saw a quote that said "why do people kill people, who kill people, to show that killing is wrong?" thats how i feel some people think that someone deserves it because they shouldnt be able to be eating and living everyday while their loved one was murdered. but they are still locked up and have nothing but their thoughts (some people not even that) to themselves..but if you think otherwise i will accept that you deserve an opinion too

Atari__:

Who the hell is the government to kill someone because of a crime? They say murder is bad, but yet killing someone who commited a crime is fine? How do you justify that? Honestly, I think spending your life in jail is far more worse then being sent to the electric chair.

And the death sentences don't always go as planned either. There are cases where the person who is being killed turns out to be tortured because the electric chair has a bug in it or he/she is not dieing quick enough because inhaling the poisonous gas is not working, so they end up dieing a slow painful death - no one deserves it, regardless of what they have done in the past.

It looks more like a cruel and unusual punishment then a justified one.

And if a family agrees to a death penalty just because that person killed a family member - then their actions are not because they want to protect society, but more like revenge for themselves and to avenge their loved one.

In America the electric chair isn't used because it did tortue the person on rare occasions. Now it is lethal injection.

Atari__:

They say murder is bad, but yet killing someone who commited a crime is fine? How do you justify that?

They say capture or detention of a person against their will is bad, but doing that to someone who committed a crime is fine? How do you justify that?

I think that it should be up to the criminal. I know some people who'd much rather have a death sentence than spend the rest of their lives in jail. If the criminal does not want to be sentenced to death, then just let spend the rest of their lives in jail.

whatsmyname:

I think that it should be up to the criminal. I know some people who'd much rather have a death sentence than spend the rest of their lives in jail. If the criminal does not want to be sentenced to death, then just let spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Some would say they lost that right to choice when they decided to kill another human (which is, in my opinion, the ultimate act of evil anyway.)
They perhaps don't deserve the luxury of a quick and clean, state-funded death.

Criminals don't deserve to be killed, but they don't deserve a choice either.

Bloodraine:

whatsmyname:

I think that it should be up to the criminal. I know some people who'd much rather have a death sentence than spend the rest of their lives in jail. If the criminal does not want to be sentenced to death, then just let spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Some would say they lost that right to choice when they decided to kill another human (which is, in my opinion, the ultimate act of evil anyway.)
They perhaps don't deserve the luxury of a quick and clean, state-funded death.

Criminals don't deserve to be killed, but they don't deserve a choice either.

I agree with your argument, and not to sound cruel, but looking at it from a totally different point of view - wouldn't it be easier to just give them the death sentence? They actually would rather have it, and the state doesn't have to pay for the food, accommodation.. As cheap as it may be, money is still money. Wouldn't the death sentence be easier, in that respect? And you can also say, do they even deserve the state funding, basically, the rest of their lives?

whatsmyname:

I agree with your argument, and not to sound cruel, but looking at it from a totally different point of view - wouldn't it be easier to just give them the death sentence? They actually would rather have it, and the state doesn't have to pay for the food, accommodation.. As cheap as it may be, money is still money. Wouldn't the death sentence be easier, in that respect? And you can also say, do they even deserve the state funding, basically, the rest of their lives?

I completely agree with you, just that I think the death penalty should only be used in extreme cases, such as mass murderers and serial killers.

I definately don't want those people walking free.

whatsmyname:

I agree with your argument, and not to sound cruel, but looking at it from a totally different point of view - wouldn't it be easier to just give them the death sentence? They actually would rather have it, and the state doesn't have to pay for the food, accommodation.. As cheap as it may be, money is still money. Wouldn't the death sentence be easier, in that respect? And you can also say, do they even deserve the state funding, basically, the rest of their lives?

They would have state benefits anyway. In England, at least. Everybody gets state benefits, which is why so many illegal immigrants love it here. You can just, you know, park your ass on our land and get paid for it.

So, yeah. The prisoners aren't causing the state any more money being locked up than they would out of prison, and can we really put a price on the safety of the public anyway?

Bloodraine:

They would have state benefits anyway. In England, at least. Everybody gets state benefits, which is why so many illegal immigrants love it here. You can just, you know, park your ass on our land and get paid for it.

So, yeah. The prisoners aren't causing the state any more money being locked up than they would out of prison, and can we really put a price on the safety of the public anyway?

I agree with your point - but wouldn't it still be easier to give them the death sentence? I mean, they actually agree to it and want it, it's STILL cheaper than keeping them in jail, and guarantees public safety even more than life in jail. I do agree with your point on whether they deserve the choice, though. It's a tough call, I guess.

whatsmyname:

Bloodraine:

They would have state benefits anyway. In England, at least. Everybody gets state benefits, which is why so many illegal immigrants love it here. You can just, you know, park your ass on our land and get paid for it.

So, yeah. The prisoners aren't causing the state any more money being locked up than they would out of prison, and can we really put a price on the safety of the public anyway?

I agree with your point - but wouldn't it still be easier to give them the death sentence? I mean, they actually agree to it and want it, it's STILL cheaper than keeping them in jail, and guarantees public safety even more than life in jail. I do agree with your point on whether they deserve the choice, though. It's a tough call, I guess.

Killing people who want to die isn't the death sentence, though, its assisted suicide. Which is actually still illegal in many places.

surely if we kill muderers we because muderers ourselves? slightly hipacrititcal if you ask me

beautifullychaotic:

In America the electric chair isn't used because it did tortue the person on rare occasions. Now it is lethal injection.

Lethal injection is a bit more... quicker then a chair... well, I hope it is.

Dujo:

They say capture or detention of a person against their will is bad, but doing that to someone who committed a crime is fine? How do you justify that?

Look at it this way, the person who had commited the crime know they did it. So it shouldn't be a question or not if they are taken in willingly or not. They commited a crime, they should pay for their actions. I don't believe they should pay for it in blood or death, but they do need to pay up for what they have done.

Also, what if the supposed suspect isn't the real person who did the crime? Sure the evidence might point to them, but they could be innocent and then they are sentenced to death row.