Prostitution.

Um...what if prostitution became legal. Wouldn't we have to worry about crime rates. Pimps aren't the only people willing to beat the shit out of a prostitute or to kill one.

They would have rights to protect them. It would be more professional, I guess you could say.

Well...I know that...but wouldn;t it be kind of like the movement to get rid of segregation? Blacks were killed for having good jobs and what not. What about when prostitutes were done with prostitution...don't you think people would freak out about their former jobs or something...or they would be killed because they are now officially known as prostitutes?

People would eventually get over it just like they did with the blacks.

And I don't find society as closed-minded as it used to be, maybe I'm naive but things are a hell of a lot different today than they were 50 years ago.

Elizabeth:

Um...what if prostitution became legal. Wouldn't we have to worry about crime rates. Pimps aren't the only people willing to beat the shit out of a prostitute or to kill one.

We would, all kinds of crimes. Domestic violence isn't even the half of it.

Prostitution being legalized would open up a whole new world for human traffickers. People who buy and sell people like they're some sort of useless object. Particularly young girls and women are enticed with high paying jobs and phony education offers in poor regions, when really they're being sold into a sex trafficking industry where they'll be controlled by fear. in 2003 a world wide study found that over 800,000 thousand girls are abused in this industry, and the numbers are rising. This is basically 21st century slave trade.

By making prostitution legal, it would only make this industry easier to conduct. As of now, what they're doing has no legal loop holes. There is no documents you can forge saying it's ok for this person to have sex for money, but if prostitution were made legal on a large scale it would become so easy. Police and law officers wouldn't be able to help these people to the extent they can now, and even now it's not easy.

Fentoozler:

People would eventually get over it just like they did with the blacks.

And I don't find society as closed-minded as it used to be, maybe I'm naive but things are a hell of a lot different today than they were 50 years ago.

Um... not to be offensive or anything but people have not gotten over integration.

Human trafficking has so many issues. I mean, if they worked it out go for it but that probably will never happen.

STD's will spread more even if there are health codes because not everybody gets tested.

Abuse will rise due to obvious reasons.

If you really think about it there are way more minuses than pluses to the whole situation.

hmmm...was just curious. I'm really not choosing a side on this one...

Umbrella Pwnage:

Abuse will rise due to obvious reasons.

If you really think about it there are way more minuses than pluses to the whole situation.

I actually think it will lower abuse cases, if you can go to a brothel or whatever why go through the trouble of forcing someone ?

Umbrella Pwnage:

STD's will spread more even if there are health codes because not everybody gets tested.

Abuse will rise due to obvious reasons.

a) Not everyone will get tested, but if any more of them do than didn't that will lower the number of STDs.

b) Making I'm just stupid, but what obvious reasons?

Prostitution to me just depends on if the person wants to do it. I'm not for people selling people into prostitution like young children and such, but if someone wants to do it and they are over the legal age limit, why stop them? Just going to do it anyway.

Umbrella Pwnage:

Um... not to be offensive or anything but people have not gotten over integration.

STD's will spread more even if there are health codes because not everybody gets tested.

Abuse will rise due to obvious reasons.

If you really think about it there are way more minuses than pluses to the whole situation.

Not to be offensive or anything but it's not as bad as it used to be. We no longer have signs that say "No Blacks", they aren't forced onto one side of the street or town, they aren't forced to the back of the bus, they aren't forced to give up their seat, they aren't being curb stomped just for being black every night. They aren't forced to go to their own school, they aren't forced to not work at a well paying job, they have rights just like everyone else. Yes, there's still problems but it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be. And one major point, they aren't slaves anymore. So, uh yeah, the majority of people are over it. Not everyone, but most except the ignorant people who are still living in the 1920s.

No, not everyone gets tested but just look at the porn industry, any creditable porn company makes sure their actresses and actors get tested, frequently.

I'm with dru, maybe I'm stupid but I really don't get how abuse will rise.

And another point. There would probably be a legal age. You can't work in a bar until your 18, you can't be a stripper until your 18, you can't become a pornstar until your 18. You probably couldn't join an escort service until your legal age.

Sex is something to be shared by people who greatly love each other. Giving it away to strangers is, in my opinion, immoral.

Leroquent.:

Sex is something to be shared by people who greatly love each other. Giving it away to strangers is, in my opinion, immoral.

But just because you find it immoral doesn't mean the law should.

Kurtni Reznor:

Leroquent.:

Sex is something to be shared by people who greatly love each other. Giving it away to strangers is, in my opinion, immoral.

But just because you find it immoral doesn't mean the law should.

Just because you don't doesn't mean the law shouldn't.

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Love. Hate. Tragedy.:

Just because you don't doesn't mean the law shouldn't.

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Well first off, I'm against prostitution, but whatever. :mrgreen:

The point I was making was that laws cannot be passed based on any morals alone, because no two people have the same morals. If you wrote your congressman (or equivalent representative in other countries) and said "I find ____ immoral, ban it!!!!1" they'd laugh and not take you seriously at all. For something to be regulated by law, more than morals has to play into effect. For example, many people find drug use to be immoral, but that isn't why it's illegal. It's illegal for the crime generated around the industry.

Kurtni Reznor:

Love. Hate. Tragedy.:

Just because you don't doesn't mean the law shouldn't.

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Well first off, I'm against prostitution, but whatever. :mrgreen:

The point I was making was that laws cannot be passed based on any morals alone, because no two people have the same morals. If you wrote your congressman (or equivalent representative in other countries) and said "I find ____ immoral, ban it!!!!1" they'd laugh and not take you seriously at all. For something to be regulated by law, more than morals has to play into effect. For example, many people find drug use to be immoral, but that isn't why it's illegal. It's illegal for the crime generated around the industry.

But all laws are based on morals of some sort. Even murder.
If I didn't find murder immoral, should I go to jail for killing someone?

[Not that I would, just an example.]

Love. Hate. Tragedy.:

But all laws are based on morals of some sort. Even murder.
If I didn't find murder immoral, should I go to jail for killing someone?

[Not that I would, just an example.]

Murder is illegal because it takes away someones right to life. Morals don't play a part in the legal aspect. I'm not saying many people don't find murder to be immoral, most do obviously, but that isn't what makes it illegal.

And that example you gave just proves my points. Finding murder to be moral doesn't exempt you from the law, because the law has no morals.

Kurtni Reznor:

Love. Hate. Tragedy.:

But all laws are based on morals of some sort. Even murder.
If I didn't find murder immoral, should I go to jail for killing someone?

[Not that I would, just an example.]

Murder is illegal because it takes away someones right to life. Morals don't play a part in the legal aspect. I'm not saying many people don't find murder to be immoral, most do obviously, but that isn't what makes it illegal.

And that example you gave just proves my points. Finding murder to be moral doesn't exempt you from the law, because the law has no morals.

But the law does have morals.
Saying that someone has the right to live is a moral that we're taught all our lives.
Saying that stealing is wrong is a moral.
All of these basic everyday laws are based on some form of a moral, whether or not people realize it. Where else would they come from?
What makes you say someone has the right to live?
It's morals. A basic moral that we all have. Well, not all, but most. Just because someone doesn't find something immoral, doesn't mean it isn't. Murder is immoral. So is selling your body.

Love. Hate. Tragedy.:

Just because someone doesn't find something immoral, doesn't mean it isn't. Murder is immoral. So is selling your body.

Morals are not concrete facts you know, they vary by person. It isn't like there is one strict set of morals that everyone adheres to. Thats why asking for a law to be passed and using morality as your arguement will get you no where. If you say you're against prostitution because it is immoral, you wouldn't change anything. But, if you agured that it should be illegal because of it's relation to human trafficking, STD transmission and sexual assault, you'd be able to accomplish something. Do you see the difference there? Morality is an opinion, and laws cannot be based on opinion alone. You need reason behind them as well.