Time

Dujo:

Kurtni Von Teese:

Spacetime in the sense that we know it was created with the big bang

How would you define "before" without time?

You wouldn't, hence why time existed before the big bang.

Didn't you say it was created with the Big Bang?

Dujo:

Didn't you say it was created with the Big Bang?

I said..

Kurtni:

Spacetime in the sense that we know it ...

The laws and conditions that define our universe now were not the same before the big bang.

Kurtni Von Teese:

lyrical_mess:

Time doesn't have any physical properties.

Yes it does. :shifty By physical, I mean pertaining to physics and time does have properties. Time is affected by motion and gravity, both properties discussed in the general theory of relativity. Time is not just an idea. You're looking at time from a philosophical point of view, this is about the scientific view of time which is totally different.

I thought motion and gravity were affected by time.

lyrical_mess:

Kurtni Von Teese:

lyrical_mess:

Time doesn't have any physical properties.

Yes it does. :shifty By physical, I mean pertaining to physics and time does have properties. Time is affected by motion and gravity, both properties discussed in the general theory of relativity. Time is not just an idea. You're looking at time from a philosophical point of view, this is about the scientific view of time which is totally different.

I thought motion and gravity were affected by time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

Haven't read any posts yet or the intro post, but thought to answer these questions from my point of view:

1- What is time? Hard question. It's another dimension. Really, just like you can add a Z axis to an already existing graph between X and Y, the same way you can add another axis onto an existing 'space' between X, Y and Z axis. Weird I know. We humans only know how to move in one direction of this dimension. But maybe, just maybe someone finds a way to change direction through time and time travel.
2- Does time have a beginning/end? As it is a dimension it should have an origin, but I don't think it ends. Space never ends, so time shouldn't either.
3- Does time exist in it's own dimension? Yes.
4- Should our ideas on time's existence be based around the big bang theory? Not sure, rephrase this question please, I am confused.
5- Is time relative, absolute or universal? (or a combination of the three) All of those. You can refract things in space, I suppose time refracts too relative to the observer.

Time doesn't really exist. It's just something that we use to organize our day. We invented "four o' clock", "two thirty", ect. to describe the sun's position and the time of day.

So Wrong It's Haley.:

Time doesn't really exist.

Yeah it does.
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/What%20is%20Time.htm

So Wrong It's Haley.:

Time doesn't really exist. It's just something that we use to organize our day. We invented "four o' clock", "two thirty", ect. to describe the sun's position and the time of day.

Those parameters were invented by humans. So maybe 'two thirty' doesn't matter to the universe as a whole. But just because we have invented our own parameters and put our own human values on time, does not necessarily mean that time itself does not exist.

Relating to this, our day is twenty-three hours and fifty-six minutes long. We invent four minutes everyday. According to clocks, we have one thousand, four hundred and forty minutes a day; eighty six thousand, one hundred and sixty seconds. Where did these four minutes come from? The next day? We invent one thousand, four hundred and sixty minutes a year. That means we could have a whole new day. Then you have further complications of approximately 365.25 days per annum, which confuses everything so much more.

The Doctor.:

Relating to this, our day is twenty-three hours and fifty-six minutes long. We invent four minutes everyday. According to clocks, we have one thousand, four hundred and forty minutes a day; eighty six thousand, one hundred and sixty seconds. Where did these four minutes come from? The next day? We invent one thousand, four hundred and sixty minutes a year. That means we could have a whole new day. Then you have further complications of approximately 365.25 days per annum, which confuses everything so much more.

Because of those extra four minutes, the year is a little shorter than 365 days or however long it is, and that is where leap year comes from. Or something along those lines.

Riot.:

The Doctor.:

Relating to this, our day is twenty-three hours and fifty-six minutes long. We invent four minutes everyday. According to clocks, we have one thousand, four hundred and forty minutes a day; eighty six thousand, one hundred and sixty seconds. Where did these four minutes come from? The next day? We invent one thousand, four hundred and sixty minutes a year. That means we could have a whole new day. Then you have further complications of approximately 365.25 days per annum, which confuses everything so much more.

Because of those extra four minutes, the year is a little shorter than 365 days or however long it is, and that is where leap year comes from. Or something along those lines.

The year is over 365 days. It's about 365.25 days. In earlier times, they used to celebrate the quarter day as a festival. But we add up the quarters and make a whole new day every year.

I went to see this space-show thingy at the Museum of Natural history, talking about "Cosmic Collisions".

So, they talk about the moon and how it was formed. And the narrator mentions that it took approximately a month for the moon to form. But here's the thing: A month is measured by the moon. If there's no moon, there's no month. And if there's no month, you can't approximate a month.

I think. Yeah, I just thought that was interesting. And if you plan on going to the Musum of Natural History anytime soon, don't go see the space show. Its pretty lame.

lyrical_mess:

But here's the thing: A month is measured by the moon.

What? :shifty

Uh...isn't that why its called a month? Waaaaaay long ago, a month was pretty much one moon cycle? Please do correct me if I'm wrong. I tend to be wrong a lot.

Yes a month was a moon cycle and a day was a earth cycle and the year was a full sun cycle I believe.

It's roughly 28 days for the full process.

And two months were added to the year by Emperor Augustus...and he added an extra day to his month so it was longer than Julius "July" Caeser.

:D

lyrical_mess:

Uh...isn't that why its called a month? Waaaaaay long ago, a month was pretty much one moon cycle? Please do correct me if I'm wrong. I tend to be wrong a lot.

Yeah, but we don't measure months like that anymore. :shifty So you could say the moon was created in a month.

The Big Bang Theory has been pretty much dissproved-
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/arch/041227prediction-bigbang.htm
http://www.naturalnews.com/003643.html

Just so you know. :]

Sorry.. I don't really have anything to say on the topic of time.. I was just browsing and saw that a lot of you were talking about how the big bang theory says this and that, when most scientists are not even considering this a theory anymore.

alexandriaaaa -_-:

The Big Bang Theory has been pretty much dissproved-

"Having found supposedly distant quasars in front of nearby galaxies, the Big Bang may be snuffed out."

alexandriaaaa -_-:

when most scientists are not even considering this a theory anymore.

That's just not true. :shifty Most scientists do support the big bang theory and continue to research it, it's the most popular cosmological model.