Time

MAD:

i don't care what they think. i know what is. and thats everything.

the physicists just don't see...

MAD:

ps. For time travle. Just die.

Can I ask if you can make it a bit clearer.

What you are saying, I mean. Thanks.

Bells.:

MAD:

3- Does time exist in it's own dimension? Yes, the fourth, though i don't think four dimensions is all there are, infinite universe, makes sense there would be infinite dimensions. Since humans are finite that just blows their minds though.

There are eleven known dimensions.

That's not proven, its merely a theory. :shifty

Kurtni Von Teese:

Bells.:

MAD:

3- Does time exist in it's own dimension? Yes, the fourth, though i don't think four dimensions is all there are, infinite universe, makes sense there would be infinite dimensions. Since humans are finite that just blows their minds though.

There are eleven known dimensions.

That's not proven, its merely a theory. :shifty

That's why I said 'known'.

Bells.:

That's why I said 'known'.

But it's not known. We don't know there are 11 dimensions, some people think there may be. It isn't even a conclusive theory. The string theory teaches that there are 10 dimensions are required, while the M theory says there are 11.

Its all just describing a universe that is not truly infinite because we can't fathom infinity.

MAD:

Its all just describing a universe that is not truly infinite because we can't fathom infinity.

I don't understand what you mean... neiter of those theories contradict the idea that the universe is infinite.

Bloodraine:

So Wrong It's Haley.:

Time doesn't really exist. It's just something that we use to organize our day. We invented "four o' clock", "two thirty", ect. to describe the sun's position and the time of day.

Those parameters were invented by humans. So maybe 'two thirty' doesn't matter to the universe as a whole. But just because we have invented our own parameters and put our own human values on time, does not necessarily mean that time itself does not exist.

I was just merely talking about the hours, minutes, and seconds on a clock. Yes, there is time in the universe. But our own parameters seem rather pathetic and useless when you envision the universe as a whole.

Time doesn't exist.
It's just a measurement of human experiences. :cute:

The Fantasy:

Time doesn't exist.
It's just a measurement of human experiences. :cute:

The measurement time and the physical entity of time are two very seperate things.

The Fantasy:

Time doesn't exist.
It's just a measurement of human experiences. :cute:

I find the idea that time does not exist terrifying: we're either trapped in one single moment, or our lives don't exist at all.
Jorge Luis Borges has an interesting essay in which he tries to prove that time does not exist, it's called A New Refutation of Time- you should read it, if only for the last paragraph.

I find time in itself terrifying.
The actual measurement of time that we know, and then time are just very frightening to me

try to read the book of Stephen Hawking. idrk what it's called. Well, I forgot. :shifty: But it will tell you everything you want to learn from Time to Time travel to TimeSpaceContinuum. :wow:

I confuse my head when I think about this [ramble warning...]

When I think about flying across the international date line, you am technically skipping forwards or backwards in time when you cross (depending on which way you go).

Take for example, when I was in Rarotonga (Cook Islands) my parents wanted to watch NZ's 6:00 news. Rarotonga is 23 hours behind New Zealand, so to watch the news at 6pm on a Monday (NZ time) you would turn on your tv at 7pm on Sunday. In that sense you could say you are looking into the future. But it is all happening at the same time.

Though at times, I debate the existence of time. I just can't really comprehend it. It is not physical, we can't touch it, hear it, see it etc. It is just a concept (that I couldn't imagine not using) that begins to make for some explanation about ... erm this is where I get stuck.

I make no sense.

Kurtni Von Teese:

MAD:

Its all just describing a universe that is not truly infinite because we can't fathom infinity.

I don't understand what you mean... neiter of those theories contradict the idea that the universe is infinite.

Actually all those theories say that time would have had a beginning.

If the universe has a beginning it is not infinite. infinite things have neither beginning nor end, they go on infinitely in all directions.

MAD:

Kurtni Von Teese:

MAD:

Its all just describing a universe that is not truly infinite because we can't fathom infinity.

I don't understand what you mean... neiter of those theories contradict the idea that the universe is infinite.

Actually all those theories say that time would have had a beginning.

If the universe has a beginning it is not infinite. infinite things have neither beginning nor end, they go on infinitely in all directions.

The set of all natural numbers is infinite yet it has a beginning.

^What about negative numbers?

twiggy:

^What about negative numbers?

But they're not natural numbers. The set of natural numbers is 0, 1 , 2, 3, 4 ... and so on ad infinitum.
:shifty

MAD:

Kurtni Von Teese:

MAD:

Its all just describing a universe that is not truly infinite because we can't fathom infinity.

I don't understand what you mean... neiter of those theories contradict the idea that the universe is infinite.

Actually all those theories say that time would have had a beginning.

If the universe has a beginning it is not infinite. infinite things have neither beginning nor end, they go on infinitely in all directions.

Not necessarily. You're acting as if there is one, uniform big bang theory and that isn't the case. I'm sure some believe that the big bang was the beginning of time, but not all.In fact I'd go as far as to say that most don't believe that, but the theory is based on the beginning of the universe as we know it. Spacetime in the sense that we know it was created with the big bang [allegedly], but that isn't to say what exists now was all that ever existed.

The Fantasy:

Time doesn't exist.
It's just a measurement of human experiences. :cute:

Close! But no. Time is a human measurement of change. Everything, all atoms, molecules, quarks, protons, neutrino's, and everything else, they change, they move, the smash, they bond. That's what time measures. Humans thought this up to record change, to understand it, to quantify it. We've been scientists from the beginning.

This is also why we can't go back in time, or view the past. Maybe we'll learn to predict the future, one can predict change. But we'll never move backwards. Time isn't a line or a dot. Time is a blank sheet of paper. It's a daydream of a Neanderthal.

Just because time doesn't exist doesn't mean we don't exist. We're real, we're here. We change, grow, collide, and bond just like any atom or molecule. Time is a measurement we created. Discarding the illusion doesn't make us any less real. We've discarded the illusion that we're the center of the universe, and the universe didn't disappear.

:cheese: ^Woah. That was just amazing. I really understood what you said, and agree.
I could not have explained it better.