Fifteen Year Old Girl Stabs, Strangles, and Slits the Throat of a Nine Year Old Girl.

  • Calico Jack

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    ^The thing about mental disorders and determing whether or not to put someone in an institution rather than a prison is that it has to affect your ability to know right from wrong. A sociopath is still going to go to jail because they know the law; they just don't care, and according to the American justice system, that doesn't matter.
    June 2nd, 2010 at 06:36pm
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    Adult.
    June 2nd, 2010 at 09:03pm
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    Wow.... that's... horrible. I think there must be something mentally wrong with her, and she does need treatment... however, step in the shoes of the family that lost their 9 year old daughter, imagine how terrible that has to be, so never the less, she should be tried as an adult in my opinion.
    June 3rd, 2010 at 02:47am
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    ^You think that the punishment should be appeasing to the victim's grieving family? I'm sure they would like nothing more than to shoot her dead, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. That is why we have courts that are exacting punishments independent of our own biased wishes. And I think that works best, or at least better than the alternative of letting punishments be change to satisfy someone's anger.
    June 3rd, 2010 at 11:03am
  • YouHadMeAtHola

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    I think she must have had some unstable mental state to begin with, because that'd probably explain why she shocked herself on an electric fence. But they electric shock probably made her situation worse. But wow, killing someone just to feel what it's like? Why would you even want to feel something so barbaric? I really don't know how she should be tried, but either way, the sentence for murder will be pretty harsh.
    June 3rd, 2010 at 11:57am
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    ^And that's why I think she definitely has something wrong with her. Normal is relative, but wanting to feel what it'd be like to just kill someone? That's not normal.
    June 3rd, 2010 at 04:12pm
  • YouHadMeAtHola

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    Maybe a mental institution would serve her well.
    When was this murder thing?
    June 5th, 2010 at 03:06am
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    YouHadMeAtHola:
    Maybe a mental institution would serve her well.
    When was this murder thing?
    Both of her murders happened in 1968 (she was convicted in December of that year).
    So this is pretty old news. She's still alive though; she's 53 and she lives under a new name (due to her winning a court battle for her and her daughter to have anonymity for life).
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:54pm
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    Your Mom:
    Both of her murders happened in 1968 (she was convicted in December of that year).
    So this is pretty old news. She's still alive though; she's 53 and she lives under a new name (due to her winning a court battle for her and her daughter to have anonymity for life).
    This was recent. I believe it had occured either last year or earlier this year. I remember my mum watching it on Nancy Grace . It is most likely a similar case to this one, if I'm correct.
    July 15th, 2010 at 10:31am
  • CALiEJO

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    If she can kill, she can serve time.
    And wow, this thread is really old...
    July 16th, 2010 at 02:58pm
  • Rango

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    If she were, in fact mentally insane, she wouldn't have tried to hide it. Obviously she didn't go home wearing the bloody clothes, and she didn't keep the bloody knife in plain sight. She knew what she was doing, she did it for shits and giggles. She deserves to be tried as an adult. She can stay in a children's institution until she's 18, but then she serves her life penalty. Why is everyone moaning and groaning about the death penalty? They wouldn't kill her as a child. Many people who are on death row don't even make to the chair. They die of old age first. They should say they're going to electrocute her, but they wouldn't do until she was much, much older.

    No, I'm against the death penalty. I'm just saying, everyone was acting like they're going to put a 15 year old in the chair. Not many go straight to the chair. Some just serve life, even when capitol punishment is available.

    Also, I think it's stupid they tried to use her youtube videos as proof she's insane.

    My friends and I have done WAY stupider shit than that, and we're not about to go off and kill someone. She was a kid touching an electric fence. That's not insane. That's people being stupid for youtube views. If she were slaughtering kittens and puppies, sure, she'd be insane.
    She's just a sociopath, and deserves the adult sentence. Whats the point in sentencing her as a child? She'll just get out and kill again.
    July 27th, 2010 at 03:18am
  • Barbz

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    ^^ agreed.

    Undoubtedly she's insane, but not for touching an electric fence. She's insane for wanting to know what it's like to kill someone.
    July 27th, 2010 at 09:46pm
  • Rango

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    People make the media out to be way worse than it is.

    It's like people can't wrap their head around the fact that some people are just hard wired to be mean, angry, murderous people. It happens. Watching a violent cartoon is not going to make a 15 year old STRANGLE, STAB, and SLIT THE THROAT of another human being. That just doesn't happen.

    Same with the little ginger boy, don't remember the names though. He was like 6ish and he killed a small blonde boy. After he killed the boy he sodomized him with a stick then dumped the dead boys juice cup on his body. What cartoon did he pick that up from? What movie would he have been watching that would have told him that was a good idea? Last I checked not one movie I've ever seen on basic cable (the only thing I'm sure they had at the time this happened) or in the history of movies shown on TV shows that kind of thing.

    She was psychotic. If the treatment wasn't helping her to stop being suicidal, there was a reason, she wasn't sick she was just murderous. No disease is excuse for doing that and hiding it. I'm sorry. Adult sentence is what she deserves.
    July 29th, 2010 at 05:07am
  • Xsoteria

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    Well I'm genuinely against children being tried as adults, but in this case it really does seem to me that she wasn't quite right in the head.

    Though I think that a professional psychiatrist should be more qualified than us here in determinating whether or not she's a loon.

    I also don't think that people are just born murderous, without something not triggering it or changing them during their life.
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:43am
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    I think she should be tried as an adult, just cus I think that it should depend on the crime and the intentions not the person's age.
    September 4th, 2010 at 08:15am
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    Just to point out that say the girl does go to an institution. She doesn't necessarily need to be released. If she is she would be under close watch or sent to a residential facility that could be just like a prison yet with the medical staff. Now whether to try her as an adult is a toss up to me. She's quite young. Now if she were say 17 I can understand trying her as an adult but at 15 I'm thinking of trying her as a child with a mental issue.

    william blake might have a point. Psychiatric help can aid many who have committed crimes whether they are diagnosed as mentally ill or not something went wrong in their head. Prison alone may not work because in prison you don't receive the medical care you would in an institution.
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    Not everyone who has killed someone is necessarily mental, though. You have people with horrible tempers who get so angry that they end up bashing someone's skull in, but they don't have mental issues, tempramental issues, yes. Or people who just have no conscience.
    Now with what you said here despite them not being diagnosed with a mental illness your temperament and morals are within your head. So something is still wrong within their way of thinking. Getting extremely angry to the point of killing others is definitely something wrong within a way of thinking.
    September 6th, 2010 at 09:36am
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    If you're 18, you should be tried as an adult. Because you are not legally an adult, yet here you are, being tried as one. She is effing 15, can't drive, cant have sex (legal "of age" is usually 16) and she is being tried as an adult? No she should be in a mental place to figure out whats going on. I mean seriously.
    September 6th, 2010 at 07:23pm
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    Did they investigate at all, or did they take her word for it? Who's to say that somebody didn't force her to confess to it? Or, even that somebody forced her to do it?
    Maybe I watch too many Soap Operas, but I definitely think that they should actually do an investigation.
    September 21st, 2010 at 10:54pm
  • Samantha Michelle

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    I think it is very clear that there is something terribly wrong in her brain. I do believe that she, if she wasn't caught, had potential to be a serial killer. From the small bit of information you gave me, she is both a Sadist and a Masochist. It's kind of weird. I have never seen someone be both. [don't know if she really is, just an assumption.]
    March 12th, 2011 at 12:11pm
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    This is probably one of the sadest things I have read in a while.....What has the world come to...
    June 7th, 2011 at 05:35pm